Race to the Bottom Updates

[rondohondo]

We need to start winning some games soon.  I have no desire to see this team finish in the bottom five. 

I will be thrilled if they can win at least 20 of their remaining games.

That'd be a .465 winning percentage, could be doable if Rondo gets back and plays well.

22 would be even better.  That would take us to the 35 win mark that I've been hoping since the off-season.

Rondo will be brought along slowly , likely playing 20-25 mpg the first few weeks. I also think he will likely sit out a few games of the back end games on back to backs . Might sit out 3-5 games total

I can't see them winning more than 15 the rest of the way with our current roster and Rondo .

There's no doubt Danny will be a seller come trade deadline , especially if the c's are still in the running for a top 5 pick. Bass,Green,AB could all possibly be moved before the deadline, making this team even worse .

[BballTim]

off topic but AB really having improvement on his offense
more consistent shoot/ driving to the basket
now if only he can pass..

  Off the same topic, but his defense against the likes of Curry/Lillard/Harden has been very solid as well.

[GreenWarrior]

we are headed for a top 5 pick just like i originally predicted before the start of the season. We saw some fools gold for awile but that is only because stevens has done a tremendous job with little talent. we are really lucky to even have 10 wins right now. much less 13.

I don't know if i'd directly credit that win streak to BS. yes he made the decision to make Crawford the pg and realize what everyone already knew - that avery Bradley is and never will be a pg in this league.

I think the credit lies directly on crawfords' shoulders. he was playing so well some here were saying we could trade rondo now. if he could have sustained his great play lottery talk may well have been long gone.

just like now we can directly credit Crawford; maybe not with losses but why our offense looks the way it does right now. he's a mere shell of the great play we saw many moons ago.

[TwinTower14]

we are headed for a top 5 pick just like i originally predicted before the start of the season. We saw some fools gold for awile but that is only because stevens has done a tremendous job with little talent. we are really lucky to even have 10 wins right now. much less 13.

I don't know if i'd directly credit that win streak to BS. yes he made the decision to make Crawford the pg and realize what everyone already knew - that avery Bradley is and never will be a pg in this league.

I think the credit lies directly on crawfords' shoulders. he was playing so well some here were saying we could trade rondo now. if he could have sustained his great play lottery talk may well have been long gone.

just like now we can directly credit Crawford; maybe not with losses but why our offense looks the way it does right now. he's a mere shell of the great play we saw many moons ago.

When Rondo was playing some of his best basketball last year the C's still weren't winning games, so I don't see him making a huge difference. Maybe if he was healthy when the season started?  But the Knicks and Nets are getting on track, Toronto is better than it was last year.  So, I think they will be fighting it out with 6'ers for the cellar.  Wait until DA sells at the deadline.  I predicted 25 wins when the season started, I think that's where they will end up...

[Celtics18]

We need to start winning some games soon.  I have no desire to see this team finish in the bottom five. 

I will be thrilled if they can win at least 20 of their remaining games.

That'd be a .465 winning percentage, could be doable if Rondo gets back and plays well.

22 would be even better.  That would take us to the 35 win mark that I've been hoping since the off-season.

Rondo will be brought along slowly , likely playing 20-25 mpg the first few weeks. I also think he will likely sit out a few games of the back end games on back to backs . Might sit out 3-5 games total

I can't see them winning more than 15 the rest of the way with our current roster and Rondo .

There's no doubt Danny will be a seller come trade deadline , especially if the c's are still in the running for a top 5 pick. Bass,Green,AB could all possibly be moved before the deadline, making this team even worse .

I think it's more likely that Danny will be a "buyer" than a "seller."

[nickagneta]

Have you guys seen the schedule for the rest of the year? Its pretty cake:

Wed, Jan 15    vs    Toronto
Fri, Jan 17    vs    Los Angeles
Sun, Jan 19    @     Orlando
Tue, Jan 21    @     Miami
Wed, Jan 22    @     Washington
Fri, Jan 24    vs    Oklahoma City
Sun, Jan 26    vs    Brooklyn
Tue, Jan 28    @     NY Knicks
Wed, Jan 29    vs    Philadelphia

Sun, Feb 2     vs    Orlando
Wed, Feb 5     @     Philadelphia
Fri, Feb 7     vs    Sacramento
Sun, Feb 9     vs    Dallas
Mon, Feb 10    @     Milwaukee
Wed, Feb 12    vs    San Antonio
Wed, Feb 19    @     Phoenix
Fri, Feb 21    @     Los Angeles
Sat, Feb 22    @     Sacramento
Mon, Feb 24    @     Utah
Wed, Feb 26    vs    Atlanta

Sat, Mar 1     vs    Indiana
Wed, Mar 5     vs    Golden State
Fri, Mar 7     vs    Brooklyn
Sun, Mar 9     vs    Detroit
Tue, Mar 11    @     Indiana
Wed, Mar 12    vs    NY Knicks
Fri, Mar 14    vs    Phoenix
Sun, Mar 16    @     New Orleans
Mon, Mar 17    @     Dallas
Wed, Mar 19    vs    Miami
Fri, Mar 21    @     Brooklyn
Wed, Mar 26    vs    Toronto
Fri, Mar 28    @     Toronto
Sun, Mar 30    vs    Chicago
Mon, Mar 31    @     Chicago

Wed, Apr 2     @     Washington
Fri, Apr 4     vs    Philadelphia
Sat, Apr 5     @     Detroit
Wed, Apr 9     @     Atlanta
Fri, Apr 11    vs    Charlotte
Sat, Apr 12    @     Cleveland
Mon, Apr 14    @     Philadelphia
Wed, Apr 16    vs    Washington



The games in red are games against teams with a record below .500. That's 27 games against teams with a .500 record or worse. Figuring the Celtics win half of those that's 14 wins. I am also going to figure that th team wins at least 2 games against teams with a higher than .500 record.

That's 16 wins left in the season without even really trying hard.I could easily see that number ballooning to 20 given the competition and the need for some teams to throw games towards the end of the season.

The 4th or 5th seed might be the lowest we see this team this year. Given the schedule a 7th to 9th seed looks more likely.

[TwinTower14]

Have you guys seen the schedule for the rest of the year? Its pretty cake:

Wed, Jan 15    vs    Toronto
Fri, Jan 17    vs    Los Angeles
Sun, Jan 19    @     Orlando
Tue, Jan 21    @     Miami
Wed, Jan 22    @     Washington
Fri, Jan 24    vs    Oklahoma City
Sun, Jan 26    vs    Brooklyn
Tue, Jan 28    @     NY Knicks
Wed, Jan 29    vs    Philadelphia

Sun, Feb 2     vs    Orlando
Wed, Feb 5     @     Philadelphia
Fri, Feb 7     vs    Sacramento
Sun, Feb 9     vs    Dallas
Mon, Feb 10    @     Milwaukee
Wed, Feb 12    vs    San Antonio
Wed, Feb 19    @     Phoenix
Fri, Feb 21    @     Los Angeles
Sat, Feb 22    @     Sacramento
Mon, Feb 24    @     Utah
Wed, Feb 26    vs    Atlanta

Sat, Mar 1     vs    Indiana
Wed, Mar 5     vs    Golden State
Fri, Mar 7     vs    Brooklyn
Sun, Mar 9     vs    Detroit
Tue, Mar 11    @     Indiana
Wed, Mar 12    vs    NY Knicks
Fri, Mar 14    vs    Phoenix
Sun, Mar 16    @     New Orleans
Mon, Mar 17    @     Dallas
Wed, Mar 19    vs    Miami
Fri, Mar 21    @     Brooklyn
Wed, Mar 26    vs    Toronto
Fri, Mar 28    @     Toronto
Sun, Mar 30    vs    Chicago
Mon, Mar 31    @     Chicago

Wed, Apr 2     @     Washington
Fri, Apr 4     vs    Philadelphia
Sat, Apr 5     @     Detroit
Wed, Apr 9     @     Atlanta
Fri, Apr 11    vs    Charlotte
Sat, Apr 12    @     Cleveland
Mon, Apr 14    @     Philadelphia
Wed, Apr 16    vs    Washington



The games in red are games against teams with a record below .500. That's 28 games against teams with a .500 record or worse. Figuring the Celtics win half of those that's 14 wins. I am also going to figure that th team wins at least 2 games against teams with a higher than .500 record.

That's 16 wins left in the season without even really trying hard.I could easily see that number ballooning to 20 given the competition and the need for some teams to throw games towards the end of the season.

The 4th or 5th seed might be the lowest we see this team this year. Given the schedule a 7th to 9th seed looks more likely.

Brooklyn, Chicago, Knicks and Cleveland are all better now than when the season started.  I bet all of those teams finish at or above .500 this year....

[Fafnir]

How many TPs do you want to bet TwinTower14?

In particular Cleveland, they're 13 - 24. They'd have to go .622 or 28 - 17 to get just to 41-41.

[nickagneta]

Have you guys seen the schedule for the rest of the year? Its pretty cake:

Wed, Jan 15    vs    Toronto
Fri, Jan 17    vs    Los Angeles
Sun, Jan 19    @     Orlando
Tue, Jan 21    @     Miami
Wed, Jan 22    @     Washington
Fri, Jan 24    vs    Oklahoma City
Sun, Jan 26    vs    Brooklyn
Tue, Jan 28    @     NY Knicks
Wed, Jan 29    vs    Philadelphia

Sun, Feb 2     vs    Orlando
Wed, Feb 5     @     Philadelphia
Fri, Feb 7     vs    Sacramento
Sun, Feb 9     vs    Dallas
Mon, Feb 10    @     Milwaukee
Wed, Feb 12    vs    San Antonio
Wed, Feb 19    @     Phoenix
Fri, Feb 21    @     Los Angeles
Sat, Feb 22    @     Sacramento
Mon, Feb 24    @     Utah
Wed, Feb 26    vs    Atlanta

Sat, Mar 1     vs    Indiana
Wed, Mar 5     vs    Golden State
Fri, Mar 7     vs    Brooklyn
Sun, Mar 9     vs    Detroit
Tue, Mar 11    @     Indiana
Wed, Mar 12    vs    NY Knicks
Fri, Mar 14    vs    Phoenix
Sun, Mar 16    @     New Orleans
Mon, Mar 17    @     Dallas
Wed, Mar 19    vs    Miami
Fri, Mar 21    @     Brooklyn
Wed, Mar 26    vs    Toronto
Fri, Mar 28    @     Toronto
Sun, Mar 30    vs    Chicago
Mon, Mar 31    @     Chicago

Wed, Apr 2     @     Washington
Fri, Apr 4     vs    Philadelphia
Sat, Apr 5     @     Detroit
Wed, Apr 9     @     Atlanta
Fri, Apr 11    vs    Charlotte
Sat, Apr 12    @     Cleveland
Mon, Apr 14    @     Philadelphia
Wed, Apr 16    vs    Washington



The games in red are games against teams with a record below .500. That's 28 games against teams with a .500 record or worse. Figuring the Celtics win half of those that's 14 wins. I am also going to figure that th team wins at least 2 games against teams with a higher than .500 record.

That's 16 wins left in the season without even really trying hard.I could easily see that number ballooning to 20 given the competition and the need for some teams to throw games towards the end of the season.

The 4th or 5th seed might be the lowest we see this team this year. Given the schedule a 7th to 9th seed looks more likely.

Brooklyn, Chicago, Knicks and Cleveland are all better now than when the season started.  I bet all of those teams finish at or above .500 this year....

What's that got to do with anything. They are still below .500 now and they only play those teams 8 times. That still leaves 19 other games against teams with a record that is currently below .500.

And I will believe Cleveland and Chicago finish above .500 when they actually finish above .500. Chicago without Rose and Deng doesn't have the firepower long term to sustain winning. Cleveland is just a hot mess. They are as bad as Boston is.

[TwinTower14]

How many TPs do you want to bet TwinTower14?

In particular Cleveland, they're 13 - 24. They'd have to go .622 or 28 - 17 to get just to 41-41.

Cleveland might not but I bet Brooklyn and Knicks get back to .500.  I will bet that Cleveland finishes with a better record than the C's though....The C's aren't making the playoffs.  They played above their head to start the season but things are starting to even out.  Rondo will not make a huge difference....

[Fafnir]

How many TPs do you want to bet TwinTower14?

In particular Cleveland, they're 13 - 24. They'd have to go .622 or 28 - 17 to get just to 41-41.

Cleveland might not but I bet Brooklyn and Knicks get back to .500.  I will bet that Cleveland finishes with a better record than the C's though....The C's aren't making the playoffs.  They played above their head to start the season but things are starting to even out.  Rondo will not make a huge difference....

All of those teams being .500 is  a lot different than what you're offering as a wager now. In particular "more wins than the C's" and .500 is a giant chasm.

[TwinTower14]

How many TPs do you want to bet TwinTower14?

In particular Cleveland, they're 13 - 24. They'd have to go .622 or 28 - 17 to get just to 41-41.

Cleveland might not but I bet Brooklyn and Knicks get back to .500.  I will bet that Cleveland finishes with a better record than the C's though....The C's aren't making the playoffs.  They played above their head to start the season but things are starting to even out.  Rondo will not make a huge difference....

All of those teams being .500 is  a lot different than what you're offering as a wager now. In particular "more wins than the C's" and .500 is a giant chasm.

Cleveland is probably a stretch to get to .500 but I am pretty confident that the Bulls, Nets and Knicks will all be .500 or above once the season ends and I don't think the C's will be anywhere near that....

[GreenWarrior]

the only way rondo doesn't have a positive effect on this teams record is if he's not here.

[Clench123]

We need to start winning some games soon.  I have no desire to see this team finish in the bottom five. 

I will be thrilled if they can win at least 20 of their remaining games.

And what GOOD exactly would that do us?

[Celtics18]

We need to start winning some games soon.  I have no desire to see this team finish in the bottom five. 

I will be thrilled if they can win at least 20 of their remaining games.

And what GOOD exactly would that do us?

I can't speak for the collective "us" because, obviously, fans are divided about what they'd rather see for this Celtics team.

I can speak for myself, and say that I like this team.  I am rooting for the 2013-2014 Celtics.  I am rooting for Avery, Brandon, Hump, Crawfish, Olynyk, Jeff Green, Sully, Phil Pressey.  I want to see them do well and not be responsible for one of the worst seasons in Celtics history. 

I don't buy the theory that the only way to improve the future is to get a top five pick in this year's draft.  I think that if Danny is smart (which he is) and lucky (which we hopefully will be) that this team can be improved regardless of this year's record.

I'm rooting for the Celtics in the only way I know how:  For them to win. 

So, it would do me some good.  I can't speak for anybody else.