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Race to the Bottom Updates
« on: January 13, 2014, 01:51:41 PM »

Offline Q_FBE

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LA Lakers  14 23 .378 15 ½ 8-10 6-13 4-5 9-17 99.3 105.1 -5.8 Lost 4 1-9
Sacramento  13 22 .371 15 ½ 9-13 4-9 2-8 8-15 102.0 103.6 -1.6 Won 3 6-4
Cleveland  13 24 .351 16 ½ 10-8 3-16 2-7 9-18 95.5 101.2 -5.7 Lost 1 3-7
Boston  13 25 .342 17 8-10 5-15 2-2 10-12 95.3 98.9 -3.6 Lost 8 1-9
Philadelphia  12 25 .324 17 ½ 7-11 5-14 1-4 7-14 102.5 110.9 -8.4 Lost 4 4-6
Utah  12 26 .316 18 7-11 5-15 2-5 7-18 93.7 101.1 -7.3 Lost 1 5-5
Orlando  10 27 .270 19 ½ 7-11 3-16 3-5 8-13 95.4 101.1 -5.7 Lost 7 2-8
Milwaukee  7 29 .194 22 3-14 4-15 2-6 6-19 91.6 100.0 -8.4 Lost 5 2-8


Right now, the Celtics are going through a brutal stretch of the season and appear to be in good position for a fire sale provided Rondo is kept out of the lineup. This competitive losing is a forerunner to more bad basketball usually and results in a bottom out process before things get better. We have lost twice this year to Milwaukee so the potential to get worse is there. My guess is that more talent via the draft is on the way but what to do with the likes of Avery Bradley, Brandon Bass, and Jordan Crawford remains ot be seen. The ball remains in Danny Ainges court as to where to take this team.
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Re: Race to the Bottom Updates
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2014, 01:55:21 PM »

Offline D.o.s.

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Is there any way you can make those charts have any frame of reference?


Like, maybe, headers for the columns? Or at least a link to where you grabbed the Data?

I mean, the wins/losses and the streaks and the winning percentages I get, but it'd be nice to see what the other ones actually stand for.
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Re: Race to the Bottom Updates
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2014, 02:02:38 PM »

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Is there any way you can make those charts have any frame of reference?


Like, maybe, headers for the columns? Or at least a link to where you grabbed the Data?

I mean, the wins/losses and the streaks and the winning percentages I get, but it'd be nice to see what the other ones actually stand for.

  I'll go out on a limb and guess ESPN standings, wins, losses, %, home, away, vs winning teams, vs losing teams, pf, pa, streak, last 10. Although the only reason I tried to figure that out was your post, I kind of glazed over the numbers when I saw them.

Re: Race to the Bottom Updates
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2014, 02:08:06 PM »

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LA Lakers  14 23 .378 15 ½ 8-10 6-13 4-5 9-17 99.3 105.1 -5.8 Lost 4 1-9
Sacramento  13 22 .371 15 ½ 9-13 4-9 2-8 8-15 102.0 103.6 -1.6 Won 3 6-4
Cleveland  13 24 .351 16 ½ 10-8 3-16 2-7 9-18 95.5 101.2 -5.7 Lost 1 3-7
Boston  13 25 .342 17 8-10 5-15 2-2 10-12 95.3 98.9 -3.6 Lost 8 1-9
Philadelphia  12 25 .324 17 ½ 7-11 5-14 1-4 7-14 102.5 110.9 -8.4 Lost 4 4-6
Utah  12 26 .316 18 7-11 5-15 2-5 7-18 93.7 101.1 -7.3 Lost 1 5-5
Orlando  10 27 .270 19 ½ 7-11 3-16 3-5 8-13 95.4 101.1 -5.7 Lost 7 2-8
Milwaukee  7 29 .194 22 3-14 4-15 2-6 6-19 91.6 100.0 -8.4 Lost 5 2-8


Right now, the Celtics are going through a brutal stretch of the season and appear to be in good position for a fire sale provided Rondo is kept out of the lineup. This competitive losing is a forerunner to more bad basketball usually and results in a bottom out process before things get better. We have lost twice this year to Milwaukee so the potential to get worse is there. My guess is that more talent via the draft is on the way but what to do with the likes of Avery Bradley, Brandon Bass, and Jordan Crawford remains ot be seen. The ball remains in Danny Ainges court as to where to take this team.

Thanks dude. You're a regular Steve Harvey. TP for you.

Re: Race to the Bottom Updates
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2014, 07:31:58 AM »

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we are headed for a top 5 pick just like i originally predicted before the start of the season. We saw some fools gold for awile but that is only because stevens has done a tremendous job with little talent. we are really lucky to even have 10 wins right now. much less 13.
LET'S GO CELTICS!

Re: Race to the Bottom Updates
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2014, 08:06:27 AM »

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I think we still end up somewhere between the 8th and 10th worst record. 

I'm more curious about how the Atlanta/Nets situation works out.  Hawks without Horford and Nets with Lopez should have them both in the bottom half of the playoff teams--assuming the other 'decent' teams continue to right their ships as the season continues

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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2014, 08:24:19 AM »

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we are headed for a top 5 pick just like i originally predicted before the start of the season. We saw some fools gold for awile but that is only because stevens has done a tremendous job with little talent. we are really lucky to even have 10 wins right now. much less 13.

I am with you on this one.  C's will pick in the top 5, Rondo will help but not enough to make a huge difference.  The Knicks and Nets have figured it out and they won't catch the Raptors now, already 7 games out...

Re: Race to the Bottom Updates
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2014, 09:07:56 AM »

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we are headed for a top 5 pick just like i originally predicted before the start of the season. We saw some fools gold for awile but that is only because stevens has done a tremendous job with little talent. we are really lucky to even have 10 wins right now. much less 13.

Lep, hope you're right. You usually are.

 My main concerns are 1.Rondo's coming back and 2. Danny still having to move some of the vets (some combo of Bass, Humps, Green, Bradley, Bogans) so there's less talent for the short term.

Re: Race to the Bottom Updates
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2014, 09:16:48 AM »

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we are headed for a top 5 pick just like i originally predicted before the start of the season. We saw some fools gold for awile but that is only because stevens has done a tremendous job with little talent. we are really lucky to even have 10 wins right now. much less 13.

Lep, hope you're right. You usually are.

 My main concerns are 1.Rondo's coming back and 2. Danny still having to move some of the vets (some combo of Bass, Humps, Green, Bradley, Bogans) so there's less talent for the short term.
Even with this losing streak our point differential doesn't suggest we're going to end up with a bottom five record.

9 teams have worse SRS than us, which accounts for SoS, and 7 teams have worse raw point differentials.

Now things could keep falling apart but given how competitive the team has been they'll keep picking up enough wins to avoid the basement.

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« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2014, 09:26:20 AM »

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we are headed for a top 5 pick just like i originally predicted before the start of the season. We saw some fools gold for awile but that is only because stevens has done a tremendous job with little talent. we are really lucky to even have 10 wins right now. much less 13.

Lep, hope you're right. You usually are.

 My main concerns are 1.Rondo's coming back and 2. Danny still having to move some of the vets (some combo of Bass, Humps, Green, Bradley, Bogans) so there's less talent for the short term.
Even with this losing streak our point differential doesn't suggest we're going to end up with a bottom five record.

9 teams have worse SRS than us, which accounts for SoS, and 7 teams have worse raw point differentials.

Now things could keep falling apart but given how competitive the team has been they'll keep picking up enough wins to avoid the basement.

Faf, as much as I was hoping Lep is right, I'm hoping you are wrong.

The problem is that my gut has been telling me that we won't end up with a top 5 and you're projections seem to suggest that.

Hope the projections don't pan out.

Re: Race to the Bottom Updates
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2014, 09:44:25 AM »

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off topic but AB really having improvement on his offense
more consistent shoot/ driving to the basket
now if only he can pass..

Re: Race to the Bottom Updates
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2014, 09:49:22 AM »

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We need to start winning some games soon.  I have no desire to see this team finish in the bottom five. 

I will be thrilled if they can win at least 20 of their remaining games.
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PF:  E. Ilyasova/J. Jerebko/R. Christmas
C:    N. Vucevic/K. Olynyk/E. Davis/C. Jefferson

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« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2014, 09:52:46 AM »

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Sac and Cleveland should improve. Orlando, Milwaukee and us will fall to the bottom three. I see Philly staying up there unless they bench MCW and Turner every game. Barring a historic return by Rondo, I'm seeing us in the bottom five but probably not higher than 3.   
The Nets will finish with the worst record and the Celtics will end up with the 4th pick.

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Re: Race to the Bottom Updates
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2014, 09:54:19 AM »

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We need to start winning some games soon.  I have no desire to see this team finish in the bottom five. 

I will be thrilled if they can win at least 20 of their remaining games.
That'd be a .465 winning percentage, could be doable if Rondo gets back and plays well.

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« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2014, 10:06:50 AM »

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We need to start winning some games soon.  I have no desire to see this team finish in the bottom five. 

I will be thrilled if they can win at least 20 of their remaining games.
That'd be a .465 winning percentage, could be doable if Rondo gets back and plays well.

22 would be even better.  That would take us to the 35 win mark that I've been hoping since the off-season. 
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PG: G. Hill/D. Schroder
SG: C. Lee/B. Hield/T. Luwawu
SF:  Giannis/J. Lamb/M. Kuzminskas
PF:  E. Ilyasova/J. Jerebko/R. Christmas
C:    N. Vucevic/K. Olynyk/E. Davis/C. Jefferson