Rumor: New Orleans Pelicans pushing Eric Gordon on trading block

[Smitty77]

It's funny how many people are willing to pay Gordon 15 mill a year, but when they talk about Hayward, very few wants part of paying him probably around 8 to 10 mill.

I'd rather go after Hayward and pay him 8 to 10 for 4 years than an undersized SG with bad knees at 15 mill for the next 2.5 seasons.

Neither are going to win you a title, but Hayward I think would be a nice 3 piece next to Rondo and player X.

Yeah, but in this scenario, the choices aren't Hayward at $10 million or Gordon at $15 million, are they?

Rather, they're Gerald Wallace at $10.1 million, or Gordon at $14.5 million.  Gordon is overpaid, but he's not nearly as overpaid as Wallace is.

Excellent point Roy!!

[BballTim]

Shocker.

  Said it all in one word.

[D.o.s.]

It's funny how many people are willing to pay Gordon 15 mill a year, but when they talk about Hayward, very few wants part of paying him probably around 8 to 10 mill.

I'd rather go after Hayward and pay him 8 to 10 for 4 years than an undersized SG with bad knees at 15 mill for the next 2.5 seasons.

Neither are going to win you a title, but Hayward I think would be a nice 3 piece next to Rondo and player X.

Yeah, but in this scenario, the choices aren't Hayward at $10 million or Gordon at $15 million, are they?

Rather, they're Gerald Wallace at $10.1 million, or Gordon at $14.5 million.  Gordon is overpaid, but he's not nearly as overpaid as Wallace is.

Exactly. You're probably not going to be able to hit either team with Wallace's contract, but New Orleans feels more likely to bite than Utah.

Especially seeing that Holiday thead...

[Q_FBE]

I don't think that Gordon is the right fit here in Boston. I'll take the Wallace contract over the Gordon contract because I think Crash can do some good here.

[obnoxiousmime]

It's funny how many people are willing to pay Gordon 15 mill a year, but when they talk about Hayward, very few wants part of paying him probably around 8 to 10 mill.

I'd rather go after Hayward and pay him 8 to 10 for 4 years than an undersized SG with bad knees at 15 mill for the next 2.5 seasons.

Neither are going to win you a title, but Hayward I think would be a nice 3 piece next to Rondo and player X.

Yeah, but in this scenario, the choices aren't Hayward at $10 million or Gordon at $15 million, are they?

Rather, they're Gerald Wallace at $10.1 million, or Gordon at $14.5 million.  Gordon is overpaid, but he's not nearly as overpaid as Wallace is.

Exactly. You're probably not going to be able to hit either team with Wallace's contract, but New Orleans feels more likely to bite than Utah.

Especially seeing that Holiday thead...

Yeah it's not an either/or question, except if you see it as taking Gordon would likely rule out any possibility of making an offer on Hayward or Stephenson this summer.

A bird in the hand is worth more than two in the bush...

Another thing to consider is, we're not trying to win at all this season. Wallace helps us with that, Gordon may not. The more time that passes as we're not trying to win, the less onerous Wallace's deal is. This offseason it will only have two years remaining, and will be less the immovable object it felt like last year.

[get_banners]

new orleans should have asked for more than gordon as the centerpiece when they traded cp3, and they shouldn't have paid him what they did when they gave him his contract. he's a fairly good scorer....and nothing else. oh, and he has bad knees. by all means, lets give him $14//year. people complain about jeff green (who is a better scorer than gordon, imho, so long as he's playing without movement killers on offense like crawford, bradley, and bass), but at least he can play some defense. oh, and he makes a few million less per year than gordon.

[snively]

I'd do Wallace, Crawford and a lotto protected pick for Gordon.

I really like Gordon's game, even if that price tag is steep.

Rondo/Bradley/Gordon would be a tremendous 3-guard rotation.  Gordon could be a Ginobli-like force coming off the bench.

[jdub1660]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=n4eun6g
Wallace Bradley and Clips pick for Gordon

Save them $4 mil, and nets them a healthy combo defensive bullgaurd
Plus a protected pick and a veteran starting Sf

Celtics turn Wallace's minutes in a legit SG stud

Given Rondos recent health and Gordon, we could fall more in the rankings this year,
End up with a better draft pick, then contend when both guards are fully healthy

Maybe at the deadline Houston caves and takes Bass, Crawford and a pick for Osik

Rondo, Gordon, Green, Sully, Osik

[Sketch5]

It's funny how many people are willing to pay Gordon 15 mill a year, but when they talk about Hayward, very few wants part of paying him probably around 8 to 10 mill.

I'd rather go after Hayward and pay him 8 to 10 for 4 years than an undersized SG with bad knees at 15 mill for the next 2.5 seasons.

Neither are going to win you a title, but Hayward I think would be a nice 3 piece next to Rondo and player X.

Yeah, but in this scenario, the choices aren't Hayward at $10 million or Gordon at $15 million, are they?

Rather, they're Gerald Wallace at $10.1 million, or Gordon at $14.5 million.  Gordon is overpaid, but he's not nearly as overpaid as Wallace is.

My point is more of an observation of threads. One thread people don't think Hayward is worth the money, and this one were more than not were all for Gordon.

I wouldn't move for Gordon just to get rid of Wallace's contract. Gordons contract is worse and yes will give you more, but his knees are sketchy at best.

Plus Wallace is perfect for this team right now, he's not doing anything to get wins, Gordon could win a couple more games for us.

And no Im not pro tanking, I just would rather not make the playoffs THIS year, get some prospects and make some moves and then get back into the mix of it. Not worth winning just to get bounce out of the first round.

 

[D.o.s.]

It's funny how many people are willing to pay Gordon 15 mill a year, but when they talk about Hayward, very few wants part of paying him probably around 8 to 10 mill.

I'd rather go after Hayward and pay him 8 to 10 for 4 years than an undersized SG with bad knees at 15 mill for the next 2.5 seasons.

Neither are going to win you a title, but Hayward I think would be a nice 3 piece next to Rondo and player X.

Yeah, but in this scenario, the choices aren't Hayward at $10 million or Gordon at $15 million, are they?

Rather, they're Gerald Wallace at $10.1 million, or Gordon at $14.5 million.  Gordon is overpaid, but he's not nearly as overpaid as Wallace is.

My point is more of an observation of threads. One thread people don't think Hayward is worth the money, and this one were more than not were all for Gordon.

 

I don't believe that anyone wouldn't trade Hayward for Wallace [assuming he was on a Gordon/Wallace level contract and the numbers worked], though. That's where your observation falls short.

[Moranis]

If Boston goes all in (so to speak) then I think Gordon would be a reasonable target that probably won't cost that much.

Boston - Kevin Love, Eric Gordon, Omer Asik
New Orleans - Gerald Wallace, Jordan Crawford, 2016 Boston 1st
Houston - Bass, Bogans, 2015 Clippers 1st, 2015 Boston 2nd
Minnesota - Humphries, Sullinger, 2014 Boston 1st, 2014 Brooklyn 1st

(the picks can be modified somewhat i.e. maybe give Minnesota one of the future Brooklyn picks and keep one of the 2014 picks as an example)

Boston thus goes all in this year with the following post-trade lineup

PG - Rondo, Bayless, Pressey
SG - Gordon, Bradley, Brooks
SF - Green, ?
PF - Love, Olynyk
C - Asik, Faverani

A little light at SF, but I'd take my chances with that lineup against team in the league as long as they are relatively healthy come playoff time. 


*I edited this a bit after it was quoted.*

[D.o.s.]

If Boston goes all in (so to speak) then I think Gordon would be a reasonable target that probably won't cost that much.

Boston - Kevin Love, Eric Gordon, Omer Asik
New Orleans - Gerald Wallace, Jordan Crawford, 2016 Boston 1st
Houston - Bass, Bogans, 2015 Clippers 1st, 2015 Boston 2nd
Minnesota - Humphries, Sullinger, 2014 Boston 1st, 2014 Brooklyn 1st

Boston thus goes all in this year with the following post-trade lineup

PG - Rondo, Bayless
SG - Gordon, Bradley, Brooks
SF - Green, ?
PF - Love, Olynyk
C - Asik, Faverani

A little light at SF, but I'd take my chances with that lineup against team in the league as long as they are relatively healthy come playoff time.

While I don't see this happening, you could probably get away with playing MarShon at the 3 behind Green.

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Not interested unless they take Wallace. Even then, just not sure why we'd bother. Ya pass and put your energy somewhere else.

I think Boston would be interest because Gordon is still a good player, whereas Gerald Wallace is a stiff.

Do you pay $10.1 million per year for three seasons for a guy who is absolutely guaranteed to have no value, or do you spend an extra $4 - $5 million per year and upgrade the stiff to a guy who is a top-50 scorer (i.e., on Jeff Green's level)?

I hear you -- i think paying Bradley $10mil a year and Gordon $15 a year to play the same position as undersized guys, is less than ideal -- but I hear you.

Another way to look at it is spending the money the Cs just freed up from Courtney Lee on Gordon. Personally, I'd rather we keep driving towards cap space by trading Green and Bass, and holding off on adding more commitments.

The Pels obviously aren't trading for Wallace, and I'm not in favor of giving up other assets for Gordon. But if Ainge actually pulled off such a deal -- say, Wallace and Crawford for Gordon -- i'd certainly applaud him.

[BballTim]

new orleans should have asked for more than gordon as the centerpiece when they traded cp3

  They got an (IIRC) unprotected 1st rounder from a team that had been close to the bottom of the league for the previous 3-4 years as well.

[Moranis]

If Boston goes all in (so to speak) then I think Gordon would be a reasonable target that probably won't cost that much.

Boston - Kevin Love, Eric Gordon, Omer Asik
New Orleans - Gerald Wallace, Jordan Crawford, 2016 Boston 1st
Houston - Bass, Bogans, 2015 Clippers 1st, 2015 Boston 2nd
Minnesota - Humphries, Sullinger, 2014 Boston 1st, 2014 Brooklyn 1st

Boston thus goes all in this year with the following post-trade lineup

PG - Rondo, Bayless
SG - Gordon, Bradley, Brooks
SF - Green, ?
PF - Love, Olynyk
C - Asik, Faverani

A little light at SF, but I'd take my chances with that lineup against team in the league as long as they are relatively healthy come playoff time.

While I don't see this happening, you could probably get away with playing MarShon at the 3 behind Green.

Oh I don't see it happening either, but I think those are all at least reasonable trades for all of the teams involved.  I just don't see the point in Gordon unless Boston decides to go for it because it will cost more than just Wallace to acquire Gordon and what is the point in that without other moves.