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Re: Sometimes No words need to be spoken.
« Reply #15 on: January 01, 2014, 01:16:40 PM »

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So your saying Green didn't realize Bass wasn't staring directly at him? Green had no idea right? Even though about ten people were staring at them both. Green had no idea what was going on. Have another Beer Bud.

No, the specific moment in which you're talking about... the stare down, Green has his eyes on the court, it's quite evident in the video. That's what I'm saying. Plenty more happened off camera... but I'm not interested in writing a make-believe narrative.

Re: Sometimes No words need to be spoken.
« Reply #16 on: January 01, 2014, 01:30:21 PM »

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there is a more important point from this incident than Green's non-reaction.

On the Boston star list Green is supposed to be higher than Bass but you can see he does not get that respect from his teammate. That to me speaks more about this incident than anything else. Do you think anyone would look at Bird, PP, or KG like that when they were the stars on the Celtics? The answer is no.

So here is the deal. If you cannot get respect from even your own teammates the officials and opponents will respect you even less.

I would bet my left arm that guys looked at KG like that frequently. KG was an intense pain in the butt, and I am sure guys gave him eye rolls and get off my case responses.  I also remember Antoine Walker reaming Pierce up and down in public.  McHale used go at it with Bird (I can't recall publicly, but by all accounts they had more than their share of interpersonal difficulties). 

Jeff Green is nowhere near the stature or the player of any of the examples, but no one is above being called out and most leaders from time to time get disrespected by someone in the ranks. I respected my parents, but I didn't always give them respectful responses; likewise, my children to me.

Re: Sometimes No words need to be spoken.
« Reply #17 on: January 01, 2014, 04:40:00 PM »

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Are some of you suggesting that Green start a fight, with his own teammate, on the bench during the game?

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Re: Sometimes No words need to be spoken.
« Reply #18 on: January 01, 2014, 04:46:52 PM »

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My favorite part of the incident was Green's pouty, "I am going to stand up the rest of the game and not sit on the bench" to make a point. Hysterical.

Re: Sometimes No words need to be spoken.
« Reply #19 on: January 01, 2014, 04:48:50 PM »

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You know the NBA stinks this year when people are talking about that "incident" rather then the games. That was nothing last night. And even if it was something it's not important because I don't see either of these guys as long term Celtics.
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Re: Sometimes No words need to be spoken.
« Reply #20 on: January 01, 2014, 05:39:54 PM »

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 TP, Vinnie. That's all I'm saying he's another big baby. And one of the softest players in the game.

Re: Sometimes No words need to be spoken.
« Reply #21 on: January 01, 2014, 05:58:04 PM »

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Don't see it as any big deal.....two guys mad taking ou their frustrations on each other .......they had control of the game ....just some bad shots by Crawford,  bad bounces of the ball ,   Maybe bad coaching decsion or two ......but just part of playing the game.

It may take a long time and addition of more talent to put together strong finishes the last 8 minutes of games.  I understand their frustration ......arguing is human nature .......glade they didn't make more of the heat of the moment.


Re: Sometimes No words need to be spoken.
« Reply #22 on: January 01, 2014, 07:07:33 PM »

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I think it's funny that people want Green and Bass to completely blow up at each other  during a game on the bench, and then turnaround and want to trade them.

Heres the thing, if something did go down, their trade value goes down as well.

People also want Green to be some thing he's not. He's not KG or PP when it comes to leading a team vocally. A lot of people aren't. Maybe some thing will click and he can turn into that guy, it happens, but Im not counting on it, but Im not faulting him because he's not that kind of guy.

If there is an issue, during the game isn't the time or place, do it in the locker room or during practice. 

Re: Sometimes No words need to be spoken.
« Reply #23 on: January 01, 2014, 07:16:58 PM »

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I think the point that I and the OP are trying to make is that Green acted like a little kid who was taking his ball and going home when he chose to stand for the remainder of the game. It reminded me of the tantrums I see 2-year-olds have when they don't get what they want in the supermarket. I agree the incident was no big deal, but it is interesting to look at the way it was handled by the two players involved. Bass sat on the bench and Jeff stood and pouted.

Re: Sometimes No words need to be spoken.
« Reply #24 on: January 01, 2014, 08:31:10 PM »

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 Thanks Vinnie sometimes it's nice to have just one person agree with your viewpoint. He's a baby plain and simple.

Re: Sometimes No words need to be spoken.
« Reply #25 on: January 01, 2014, 09:15:52 PM »

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I haven't seen any of the video or the game but it seems to me like we are arguing the individual vs. the team here. If Jeff Green did not act macho enough maybe he did it that way to put the team before the individual? Last time I looked basketball is still a team sport so I have to think he did the correct thing by not overreacting to Bass.

Players that are superstars can get away with putting themselves ahead of the team, and they often do, but it still isnt the thing to do. It may help motivate certain players but it is addition by subtraction.

Re: Sometimes No words need to be spoken.
« Reply #26 on: January 01, 2014, 09:29:21 PM »

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The only thing I see here is that Jeff Green was reacting in a passive aggressive kind of way. He was obviously upset about how the 1st unit was playing, and didn't take it well that he was the one to be taken out first. But what I take from that is that he cares (and maybe that he needs a course on how to assert himself). Bass is more of a no nonsense kind of guy and probably did right by talking to Green. It might be for the better of the team.


(the above is obviously also make believe, but it's my interpretation).

Re: Sometimes No words need to be spoken.
« Reply #27 on: January 01, 2014, 10:35:56 PM »

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I think the point that I and the OP are trying to make is that Green acted like a little kid who was taking his ball and going home when he chose to stand for the remainder of the game. It reminded me of the tantrums I see 2-year-olds have when they don't get what they want in the supermarket. I agree the incident was no big deal, but it is interesting to look at the way it was handled by the two players involved. Bass sat on the bench and Jeff stood and pouted.

Sure, one could say that Green was standing and 'pouting' over having been pulled from the game over someone else' screw-up (Bass committing three very stupid TOs).

One could just as easily say that Bass sat on the bench 'pouting' in embarrassment over having screwed up and got himself and Sully and Green pulled from the game.

I don't blame Green for being p---ed off.

If he wasn't p---ed off, I would be disappointed.  He wanted to be in the game, helping his team win.  But because of Bass, the starters got yanked.
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Re: Sometimes No words need to be spoken.
« Reply #28 on: January 02, 2014, 12:44:28 AM »

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I think the point that I and the OP are trying to make is that Green acted like a little kid who was taking his ball and going home when he chose to stand for the remainder of the game. It reminded me of the tantrums I see 2-year-olds have when they don't get what they want in the supermarket. I agree the incident was no big deal, but it is interesting to look at the way it was handled by the two players involved. Bass sat on the bench and Jeff stood and pouted.

Sure, one could say that Green was standing and 'pouting' over having been pulled from the game over someone else' screw-up (Bass committing three very stupid TOs).

One could just as easily say that Bass sat on the bench 'pouting' in embarrassment over having screwed up and got himself and Sully and Green pulled from the game.

I don't blame Green for being p---ed off.

If he wasn't p---ed off, I would be disappointed.  He wanted to be in the game, helping his team win.  But because of Bass, the starters got yanked.

I guess you don't find it odd then that Green stood for the final 18 minutes of playing time in the game. When is the last time you saw a player act this way? Again, I do not think the dust up between Green and Bass was a big deal. I just think it is interesting the way Green handled it. I don't think that is a big deal either, just think it is interesting.

Re: Sometimes No words need to be spoken.
« Reply #29 on: January 02, 2014, 01:02:10 AM »

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I agree with the "soft" camp. What bothers me most about Green is his demeanor on the court. He has this saunter, this swag about him... smiling, looking at the crowd, loving himself... walking around as if he owns the place.

You can't do that unless you actually own the place. No idea why he appears to love himself as much as he does.
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