Trade Rondo or not?

[BballTim]

You need 2 or 3 top 25 players on your team to be a contender, why would we trade the only one we have?

How do you get the other 1 or 2 with Rondo on the roster?

  It's always going to be the case that you'll be trying to acquire 1-2 with 1-2 on your roster.

[twistedrico14]

I think they should keep Rondo and give him a long term contract. Top 5 PG's are hard to come by.

[Eddie20]

I think they should keep Rondo and give him a long term contract. Top 5 PG's are hard to come by.

But is he a top 5 PG? Obviously this is a very tough question to get an objective answer on a C's board, but with Paul, Williams, Irving, Curry, Westbrook, Lillard, Parker, Wall, etc. his status in the top 5 is questionable. I'll confidently say he's a top 10 pg, but I can't say he belongs in the top 5.

[ssspence]

Not unless they can get his trade value way up.



Here are the things that lower his trade value well under what his on the court value would be:

-  He is out with a big injury

-  He is a PG in a league that has a lot of good PGs (because of rule changes)

-  His contract is up after next season.






Rondo, once healthy, is worth more to the Celtics as a player then he is as a trade chip.

TP.

Can I copy and paste this in every "trade Rondo" thread.

Some people just don't seem to grasp this concept.

Agreed. The daily homer threads about Rondo's trade value -- 99% of which are based in total fantasy -- are getting truly old. Can we at least wait until he plays again at this point?

[green147]

It really is a win-win situation for the Celts right now. I'm more than happy to keep him in green for the future, he is one of the best pgs in the NBA. We also have enough money to re-sign him after his contract and he's shown he likes the direction of the team. But there are desperate teams out there, and I feel like if we do trade him we're going to get a real haul for him. So let's just see what happens. It'll be fun. 

[Moranis]

You need 2 or 3 top 25 players on your team to be a contender, why would we trade the only one we have?

How do you get the other 1 or 2 with Rondo on the roster?

  It's always going to be the case that you'll be trying to acquire 1-2 with 1-2 on your roster.

well sure, but it also easier if you get at least one through the draft while still being bad enough to have a shot at 1 or 2 more.  Now I get that Boston acquired Rondo through the draft, but if he does come back healthy, I don't see Boston being in a position to get another one through the draft with him around, especially with how bad the conference is and appears it will be for at least the next couple of seasons. 

[McHales Pits]

A healthy Rondo is no doubt in the Top 5 PGs with Paul, Parker, Westbrook, and Curry.

[Celtics4ever]

Bynum has proved he can still play the game of basketball.   Rondo hasn't done that yet

Rondo is one of the toughest players I have seen pro wise.  Dislocated arm and he played.  Bynum not so much.  I would not bet against RR.   

[jambr380]

I think they should keep Rondo and give him a long term contract. Top 5 PG's are hard to come by.

But is he a top 5 PG? Obviously this is a very tough question to get an objective answer on a C's board, but with Paul, Williams, Irving, Curry, Westbrook, Lillard, Parker, Wall, etc. his status in the top 5 is questionable. I'll confidently say he's a top 10 pg, but I can't say he belongs in the top 5.

If healthy, doesn't the two time NBA assist leader have to at least be in the top 5 by default (his 11.7 in 11-12 was the highest mark since John Stockton in 94-95). I get that he isn't a 20 ppg scorer, but don't you definitely think he could be if he desired it? Rondo is the epitome of making your teammates better by setting them up in the perfect spot at the perfect time.

All of his intangibles (great defense, playoff superstar, unbelievable handle/fakes, etc) are just a bonus, but should solidify his spot in the top 5. Let's also not forget the guy is a winner unlike a lot of these me-first young guys coming up now.

It's no coincidence that superstar players from around the league have spoken very highly of him and would love to play with him.

[greenhead85]

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All of his intangibles (great defense, playoff superstar, unbelievable handle/fakes, etc) are just a bonus, but should solidify his spot in the top 5. Let's also not forget the guy is a winner unlike a lot of these me-first young guys coming up now.

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Agree.

Rondo is so fun to watch. He just keeps on "punching holes" on team defenses with so much ease. Countless times do we see him getting on top of the key or in the paint of all opposing teams - which is seldom seen among me-first and score-first PGs.

Once he comes back from ACL injury, he would make Avery, Jeff Green, Sully, KO and even Bass much better from their current performance. Except for Rose and Chris Paul, I do not see any of the so-called current top 5 PGs make the abovementioned players better than Rondo.

He is a game-changer in this current roster. Trading him would have to take another game-changer.

[BballTim]

You need 2 or 3 top 25 players on your team to be a contender, why would we trade the only one we have?

How do you get the other 1 or 2 with Rondo on the roster?

  It's always going to be the case that you'll be trying to acquire 1-2 with 1-2 on your roster.

well sure, but it also easier if you get at least one through the draft while still being bad enough to have a shot at 1 or 2 more.  Now I get that Boston acquired Rondo through the draft, but if he does come back healthy, I don't see Boston being in a position to get another one through the draft with him around, especially with how bad the conference is and appears it will be for at least the next couple of seasons.

   You're talking about stripping a team bare to the level that getting a top player won't cause them to be good, and then managing to get (and keep) multiple star players. That's probably less likely than adding to Rondo.

[elcotte]

It depends, like any trade at any time, on what you get for him. I would trade him for LeBron James, for instance.

[Moranis]

You need 2 or 3 top 25 players on your team to be a contender, why would we trade the only one we have?

How do you get the other 1 or 2 with Rondo on the roster?

  It's always going to be the case that you'll be trying to acquire 1-2 with 1-2 on your roster.

well sure, but it also easier if you get at least one through the draft while still being bad enough to have a shot at 1 or 2 more.  Now I get that Boston acquired Rondo through the draft, but if he does come back healthy, I don't see Boston being in a position to get another one through the draft with him around, especially with how bad the conference is and appears it will be for at least the next couple of seasons.

   You're talking about stripping a team bare to the level that getting a top player won't cause them to be good, and then managing to get (and keep) multiple star players. That's probably less likely than adding to Rondo.

It may be, but I've yet to hear a viable plan building around Rondo with what Boston has now.

[BballTim]

You need 2 or 3 top 25 players on your team to be a contender, why would we trade the only one we have?

How do you get the other 1 or 2 with Rondo on the roster?

  It's always going to be the case that you'll be trying to acquire 1-2 with 1-2 on your roster.

well sure, but it also easier if you get at least one through the draft while still being bad enough to have a shot at 1 or 2 more.  Now I get that Boston acquired Rondo through the draft, but if he does come back healthy, I don't see Boston being in a position to get another one through the draft with him around, especially with how bad the conference is and appears it will be for at least the next couple of seasons.

   You're talking about stripping a team bare to the level that getting a top player won't cause them to be good, and then managing to get (and keep) multiple star players. That's probably less likely than adding to Rondo.

It may be, but I've yet to hear a viable plan building around Rondo with what Boston has now.

   Get a decent center, trade for an upgrade at either sf or sg. There you go, a viable plan.

[Moranis]

You need 2 or 3 top 25 players on your team to be a contender, why would we trade the only one we have?

How do you get the other 1 or 2 with Rondo on the roster?

  It's always going to be the case that you'll be trying to acquire 1-2 with 1-2 on your roster.

well sure, but it also easier if you get at least one through the draft while still being bad enough to have a shot at 1 or 2 more.  Now I get that Boston acquired Rondo through the draft, but if he does come back healthy, I don't see Boston being in a position to get another one through the draft with him around, especially with how bad the conference is and appears it will be for at least the next couple of seasons.

   You're talking about stripping a team bare to the level that getting a top player won't cause them to be good, and then managing to get (and keep) multiple star players. That's probably less likely than adding to Rondo.

It may be, but I've yet to hear a viable plan building around Rondo with what Boston has now.

   Get a decent center, trade for an upgrade at either sf or sg. There you go, a viable plan.

But how do you get a decent center and the upgrade at the wing?  And I'm not talking about modest upgrades either, because modest upgrades don't make Boston a realistic contender, which is the point of the moves.  How can Boston acquire the center and wing good enough to make it a realistic contender.