Green and Lee for Bynum (trade idea)

[pearljammer10]

I'm pretty lukewarm on Green, but he is too valuable/talented to be used as a salary dump.

This.

[dreamgreen]

If they throw in  this years first sign me up. We dump him right after the trade. We would instantly become worse. get a better pick and have cap room and/or be able to use our TE.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

I think attempting to move Wallace, Lee, or even Bass for Bynum, even at the expense of a heavily protected future 1st round pick would be a move worth considering. Especially if it involves Wallace and Lee.

(Wallace+Lee for Bynum+Henry Sims works BTW)

But I think Jeff Green holds more value to us than just a salary dump at this point. Not a lot of viable starting 3's in the league, and Green has shown the ability to at the least be that.

Agreed on all points

Right.

Wallace, Lee or Bass? Sure.

Green? Absolutely not.

Cleveland signed their way into this mess and they have zero leverage. They deserve nothing of ongoing value to unload Bynum.

Hear, hear.

Teams who sign injury-prone headcases (who missed the entire previous season) for $12 MILLION A YEAR(!) aren't in any position to ask for, or get, anything like a first-round pick.

[KGs Knee]

I think attempting to move Wallace, Lee, or even Bass for Bynum, even at the expense of a heavily protected future 1st round pick would be a move worth considering. Especially if it involves Wallace and Lee.

(Wallace+Lee for Bynum+Henry Sims works BTW)

But I think Jeff Green holds more value to us than just a salary dump at this point. Not a lot of viable starting 3's in the league, and Green has shown the ability to at the least be that.

Agreed on all points

Right.

Wallace, Lee or Bass? Sure.

Green? Absolutely not.

Cleveland signed their way into this mess and they have zero leverage. They deserve nothing of ongoing value to unload Bynum.

Hear, hear.

Teams who sign injury-prone headcases (who missed the entire previous season) for $12 MILLION A YEAR(!) aren't in any position to ask for, or get, anything like a first-round pick.

You do realize Cleveland only guaranteed Bynum $6m of that $12m, right?  Next year is fully non-guaranteed.

If the C's we're to trade for him they could cut him immediately and not owe him another dime.  The C's could cut quite a bit of salary from their books for this season and next.  That is usually worth a 1st round pick.

[jambr380]

I think attempting to move Wallace, Lee, or even Bass for Bynum, even at the expense of a heavily protected future 1st round pick would be a move worth considering. Especially if it involves Wallace and Lee.

(Wallace+Lee for Bynum+Henry Sims works BTW)

But I think Jeff Green holds more value to us than just a salary dump at this point. Not a lot of viable starting 3's in the league, and Green has shown the ability to at the least be that.

Agreed on all points

Right.

Wallace, Lee or Bass? Sure.

Green? Absolutely not.

Cleveland signed their way into this mess and they have zero leverage. They deserve nothing of ongoing value to unload Bynum.

Hear, hear.

Teams who sign injury-prone headcases (who missed the entire previous season) for $12 MILLION A YEAR(!) aren't in any position to ask for, or get, anything like a first-round pick.

I don't understand why anybody would think that Cleveland would be willing to give up anything of value or take on bad contracts. All they need to do is just cut the guy before Jan. 7th and they are off the hook forever. By taking on salary for the rest of the season (or future seasons), they are doing whoever may trade with them a favor.

Unless they are getting something in return, they have no reason to trade him. Somebody else will just sign him for the remainder of the season after he clears waivers.

[Celtics4ever]

I would not trade Olynyk for Bynum dude is shot!

[aporel#18]

Danny should offer Wallace and a top 50 protected 2016 second rounder... and tell the Cavs "at that price I'm cutting me throat!" 

Bonum pls

[LatterDayCelticsfan]

If salary dumping is the idea, why not send out Hump  for Bynum?  We cut him and reduce the wage bill by 6 million straight away while Cleveland score 12 million in expiring contracts.

[manl_lui]

NO WAY! I do not trust Bynum's knee's one bit to make that trade

[Lucky17]

If salary dumping is the idea, why not send out Hump  for Bynum?  We cut him and reduce the wage bill by 6 million straight away while Cleveland score 12 million in expiring contracts.

Not a bad idea. Seems like Cleveland is a little thin at PF, too. They could probably use Humphries.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

People always want people who could do work, look at Bynum, you're just giving Green away (Lee too). Not only is Bynum a okay player now, he's just getting paid to cause problems (Philly and now on Cavs), then the knees... no sir. If we obtained him like the Cavs did, fine.

[diconzo]

Bass/Lee/Crawford for Bynum and a first would clear a lot of cap, and the Cavs have SAC's 2014 protected 1st, which could be a good pick, but likely not in 2014. Cavs also get 3 rotation players for their dead weight.

[JSD]

I think attempting to move Wallace, Lee, or even Bass for Bynum, even at the expense of a heavily protected future 1st round pick would be a move worth considering. Especially if it involves Wallace and Lee.

(Wallace+Lee for Bynum+Henry Sims works BTW)

But I think Jeff Green holds more value to us than just a salary dump at this point. Not a lot of viable starting 3's in the league, and Green has shown the ability to at the least be that.

Agreed on all points

Problem being, I'm willing to bet it's going to cost significantly more than a heavily protected first to move Wallace/Lee/Bass. That's $21mill in salary and none of it is expiring this summer.

Yup. That's fantasy talk. I do it myself here and there too. Fact is, it cost something of value for cap space in this league. The trade I'm proposing costs us Jeff Green. It makes us worse in the short (good thing) and gives us a lot of flexibility this upcoming summer.

[Moranis]

Don't see the point, now if Waiters was in the trade I might be more inclined to do it.

[kozlodoev]

You do realize Cleveland only guaranteed Bynum $6m of that $12m, right?  Next year is fully non-guaranteed.

If the C's we're to trade for him they could cut him immediately and not owe him another dime.  The C's could cut quite a bit of salary from their books for this season and next.  That is usually worth a 1st round pick.

Oh, you want to take Bynum off of their hands, give them a productive player in Green _and_ give them a pick? I hope that's not it, because it's heading down the comical lane.

Also, given that the Cavs are looking to trade Bynum to save salary, I don't see how this can work in a way in which we actually _dump_ salary in this deal.