State of the East

[vjcsmoke]

if you want a high pick you've got to give up your biggest chip.

trade rondo for a top 5 pick this year plus next years pick from a high lotto team.  draft your superstar in the top 5.  then draft the next tony parker/rondo with your clipper/Brooklyn pick. ;-)

heck if holiday can land noel and a 1st... Rondo should at least get as much right?  well, if he looks healthy this year.

[Jailan34]

if you want a high pick you've got to give up your biggest chip.

trade rondo for a top 5 pick this year plus next years pick from a high lotto team.  draft your superstar in the top 5.  then draft the next tony parker/rondo with your clipper/Brooklyn pick. ;-)

heck if holiday can land noel and a 1st... Rondo should at least get as much right?  well, if he looks healthy this year.

This draft is different, much stronger. Also in the golden age of point guards rondo wouldn't fetch a top 5 pick in my opinion. If I was in the top five I wouldn't trade out for rondo. Maybe the 5th pick but it's more likely we can get in around 6 to 9 I think.

[BballTim]

And while free agency isn't guaranteed to get us a franchise player, I think at this point it's probably more realistic than the draft.

I am not sure about this..even when I understand where it came from

Yeah, I'm just not ready to rely on something thats never happened for our team in the past. We didn't become the most successful franchise in the NBA through signing big time free agents in free agency, we got here through smart drafting/trades.

  It's easier to do trades if you have plenty of cap space, you don't have to mach salaries. It makes you a more attractive trade partner.

[Jailan34]

And while free agency isn't guaranteed to get us a franchise player, I think at this point it's probably more realistic than the draft.

I am not sure about this..even when I understand where it came from

Yeah, I'm just not ready to rely on something thats never happened for our team in the past. We didn't become the most successful franchise in the NBA through signing big time free agents in free agency, we got here through smart drafting/trades.

  It's easier to do trades if you have plenty of cap space, you don't have to mach salaries. It makes you a more attractive trade partner.

It is easier in a way, but just like in the draft you have the risk of relying on chance, in a trade you have to rely on the chance that theres a team willing to trade its start for our mid value assets.

[BballTim]

And while free agency isn't guaranteed to get us a franchise player, I think at this point it's probably more realistic than the draft.

I am not sure about this..even when I understand where it came from

Yeah, I'm just not ready to rely on something thats never happened for our team in the past. We didn't become the most successful franchise in the NBA through signing big time free agents in free agency, we got here through smart drafting/trades.

  It's easier to do trades if you have plenty of cap space, you don't have to mach salaries. It makes you a more attractive trade partner.

It is easier in a way, but just like in the draft you have the risk of relying on chance, in a trade you have to rely on the chance that theres a team willing to trade its start for our mid value assets.

  What's a mid-value asset? Draft picks are draft picks. If someone suggests that we trade someone for a 1st rounder then draft picks are like gold. If someone suggests we could get something good with all of our draft picks they're suddenly not worth much because you don't know how high they'll be. Likewise, we've got a roster full of flawed players without much value, especially compared to young players on other teams (since we don't see enough of them to notice their flaws). When I see posts about how we don't have any useful assets I'm reminded of all the similar posts I saw in 2007 after we lost the lottery.

[Jailan34]

And while free agency isn't guaranteed to get us a franchise player, I think at this point it's probably more realistic than the draft.

I am not sure about this..even when I understand where it came from

Yeah, I'm just not ready to rely on something thats never happened for our team in the past. We didn't become the most successful franchise in the NBA through signing big time free agents in free agency, we got here through smart drafting/trades.

  It's easier to do trades if you have plenty of cap space, you don't have to mach salaries. It makes you a more attractive trade partner.

It is easier in a way, but just like in the draft you have the risk of relying on chance, in a trade you have to rely on the chance that theres a team willing to trade its start for our mid value assets.

  What's a mid-value asset? Draft picks are draft picks. If someone suggests that we trade someone for a 1st rounder then draft picks are like gold. If someone suggests we could get something good with all of our draft picks they're suddenly not worth much because you don't know how high they'll be. Likewise, we've got a roster full of flawed players without much value, especially compared to young players on other teams (since we don't see enough of them to notice their flaws). When I see posts about how we don't have any useful assets I'm reminded of all the similar posts I saw in 2007 after we lost the lottery.

Well I don't really share the opinion in the first two sentences, I've never said anything like that on this blog. I don't think I undervalue or overvalue our picks, most will be mid round and therefore mid level worth, they aren't in all likelihood low or high picks. Also I am not talking about the nets picks in 3-4 years, no way to know where those will end up.

In 07 we had the 5th overall though, which is a greater asset than anything we have save Rondo.

[BballTim]

And while free agency isn't guaranteed to get us a franchise player, I think at this point it's probably more realistic than the draft.

I am not sure about this..even when I understand where it came from

Yeah, I'm just not ready to rely on something thats never happened for our team in the past. We didn't become the most successful franchise in the NBA through signing big time free agents in free agency, we got here through smart drafting/trades.

  It's easier to do trades if you have plenty of cap space, you don't have to mach salaries. It makes you a more attractive trade partner.

It is easier in a way, but just like in the draft you have the risk of relying on chance, in a trade you have to rely on the chance that theres a team willing to trade its start for our mid value assets.

  What's a mid-value asset? Draft picks are draft picks. If someone suggests that we trade someone for a 1st rounder then draft picks are like gold. If someone suggests we could get something good with all of our draft picks they're suddenly not worth much because you don't know how high they'll be. Likewise, we've got a roster full of flawed players without much value, especially compared to young players on other teams (since we don't see enough of them to notice their flaws). When I see posts about how we don't have any useful assets I'm reminded of all the similar posts I saw in 2007 after we lost the lottery.

Well I don't really share the opinion in the first two sentences, I've never said anything like that on this blog. I don't think I undervalue or overvalue our picks, most will be mid round and therefore mid level worth, they aren't in all likelihood low or high picks. Also I am not talking about the nets picks in 3-4 years, no way to know where those will end up.

In 07 we had the 5th overall though, which is a greater asset than anything we have save Rondo.

  Those picks in 3-4 years are tradeable assets though, and whether the picks over the next 2-3 years are mid-level or not remains to be seen. And Sullinger's a much better asset than the 5th pick in a 4 player draft was.

[Jailan34]

And while free agency isn't guaranteed to get us a franchise player, I think at this point it's probably more realistic than the draft.

I am not sure about this..even when I understand where it came from

Yeah, I'm just not ready to rely on something thats never happened for our team in the past. We didn't become the most successful franchise in the NBA through signing big time free agents in free agency, we got here through smart drafting/trades.

  It's easier to do trades if you have plenty of cap space, you don't have to mach salaries. It makes you a more attractive trade partner.

It is easier in a way, but just like in the draft you have the risk of relying on chance, in a trade you have to rely on the chance that theres a team willing to trade its start for our mid value assets.

  What's a mid-value asset? Draft picks are draft picks. If someone suggests that we trade someone for a 1st rounder then draft picks are like gold. If someone suggests we could get something good with all of our draft picks they're suddenly not worth much because you don't know how high they'll be. Likewise, we've got a roster full of flawed players without much value, especially compared to young players on other teams (since we don't see enough of them to notice their flaws). When I see posts about how we don't have any useful assets I'm reminded of all the similar posts I saw in 2007 after we lost the lottery.

Well I don't really share the opinion in the first two sentences, I've never said anything like that on this blog. I don't think I undervalue or overvalue our picks, most will be mid round and therefore mid level worth, they aren't in all likelihood low or high picks. Also I am not talking about the nets picks in 3-4 years, no way to know where those will end up.

In 07 we had the 5th overall though, which is a greater asset than anything we have save Rondo.

  Those picks in 3-4 years are tradeable assets though, and whether the picks over the next 2-3 years are mid-level or not remains to be seen. And Sullinger's a much better asset than the 5th pick in a 4 player draft was.

Of course they are tradeable but this team is full of complementary players we need a number 1 option that's plain to see. Those picks will not get us one unless its an extremely lopsided deal. Mid round picks are not used to trade for stars unless accompanied by a young stud.