Who do we keep? Rondo or Crawford?

[Evantime34]

The only reason you would take Crawford over Rondo would be because Rondo has more value on the open market. So if you could get good value for Rondo and you think he will leave in free agency if not given a max deal you have to look at going forward with Crawford.

For the record, I believe Rondo to be the second best pg in the league when healthy, while Crawford is probably the 20th (being generous). I think there is room on the team for both though.

[ddb]

This team is obviously not a finished product.  They are playing hard, the starters are playing well.  Brad Stevens is doing is job and coaching the heck out of these guys which has translated into a respectable product out on the court. But this is far from a finished product.  Who knows what Dannys plans are. 

As far as this current team goes, once Rondo comes back he is without a doubt the starting PG.  And if you noticed, the bench scored 4 pts last night.  Gerald Wallace is not a 6th man.  He's a solid 7th or 8th man who can give you 20-25 mpg of hustle and grit.  JORDAN CRAWFORD is your 6th man once Rondo returns.  He can play PG behind Rondo.  He can play the 2 with Rondo.  He can score, distribute and close out games in the 4th quarter A LOT like what we saw Jamal Crawford do last night.

That's the ideal role for Jordan.  Yet to be seen if he can do it.  I think he can.  He needs to embrace the history and importance of the 6th man role and do his best to become one of the very best in the league.  He has that type of potential.  And how nice would that be?  to have a reliable combo guard coming off your bench giving you 15ppg?  Something the Celtics haven't had in a long, long time. 

[mmmmm]

Why can't we just keep Crawford to be the third guard off the bench?  Ainge has tried so hard to find a reliable backup to Rondo over the years, and finally has one.

And to top it off, the guy is big enough to see minutes at the off guard.

I don't understand this mania with trading. This is not a stock exchange simulation, accumulating assets is nice, but the ultimate goal is to find the best players to put on the floor.

^^^All of this. I see people getting too caught up in trading, just for the sake of making a trade. If there's something BETTER than I'm sure Ainge will make the right choice.

I don't get it either.  As soon as a Celtic player starts to play well, for some reason, it's time to trade him while their value is high rather than using their good play to help us. 

BTW, don't the Celtics need a good 3 guard rotation?  Well they have that in Rondo, Bradley and Crawford.  Leave it alone.

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[ScoobyDoo]

I say we keep both. What we now need to add is a slightly larger off guard who is a good three point shooter legit two guard size and is at least a decent defender.

Rondo / Crawford / Pressey
Bradley / three point shooter / Brooks

Loaded for the next 6-8 years in the back court.

Let Rondo, Bradley and Crawford take the lion's share of minutes - Crawford can play the two spot as well...

[NocturnalRebel]

I'm loving Crawford's efforts but I wouldn't choose him over Rondo. But why not keep Crawford too? He was brought in for bench/scoring help and his scoring will definitely be needed for our second unit once Rondo returns.



 

[Celtics18]

This team is obviously not a finished product.  They are playing hard, the starters are playing well.  Brad Stevens is doing is job and coaching the heck out of these guys which has translated into a respectable product out on the court. But this is far from a finished product.  Who knows what Dannys plans are. 

As far as this current team goes, once Rondo comes back he is without a doubt the starting PG.  And if you noticed, the bench scored 4 pts last night.  Gerald Wallace is not a 6th man.  He's a solid 7th or 8th man who can give you 20-25 mpg of hustle and grit.  JORDAN CRAWFORD is your 6th man once Rondo returns.  He can play PG behind Rondo.  He can play the 2 with Rondo.  He can score, distribute and close out games in the 4th quarter A LOT like what we saw Jamal Crawford do last night.

That's the ideal role for Jordan.  Yet to be seen if he can do it.  I think he can.  He needs to embrace the history and importance of the 6th man role and do his best to become one of the very best in the league.  He has that type of potential.  And how nice would that be?  to have a reliable combo guard coming off your bench giving you 15ppg?  Something the Celtics haven't had in a long, long time.

Well put.  I love what Jordan's doing, but if he has convinced himself that his place in this league is as a full time starting lead guard, then he's not doing himself any favors.   

He could do worse than carve out a Jason Terry/Jamal Crawford type career for himself . . . and he will do worse for himself if he doesn't embrace this fact.

I'm hoping that he already has.   

[KG_ended_Bias]

I'm only trading Rondo if it nets us DeMarcus Cousins. Rondo + 1st in 2014 for DMC! Other than that no brainer you keep Rondo.

[LooseCannon]

I say we keep both. What we now need to add is a slightly larger off guard who is a good three point shooter legit two guard size and is at least a decent defender.

Rondo / Crawford / Pressey
Bradley / three point shooter / Brooks

Loaded for the next 6-8 years in the back court.

Let Rondo, Bradley and Crawford take the lion's share of minutes - Crawford can play the two spot as well...

Haha, you see Pressey and Brooks as long-terms pieces.

For that three-point shooter you are asking for, I think you want a three-and-D wing who can guard both SGs and SFs.

[Enzzo]

I'm only trading Rondo if it nets us DeMarcus Cousins. Rondo + 1st in 2014 for DMC! Other than that no brainer you keep Rondo.

I would personally hate Cousins on the Celtics. He's good, but he's just too arrogant and selfish. Don't think he would listen to Steven's and I would hate to build a team around him for the next couple years. Not a bad suggestion, just my personal opinion.

[snively]

I'd like to trade Crawford, even before test driving him as the 6th man once Rondo returns.

So little confidence that he can keep up his shooting percentages or control his chucking urges in a reduced role.

[sunnyd656]

The fact that this thread exists actually bothers me

[coco]

Since neither JC and AB were extended, the question this summer will be, who between the two, we'll keep.

[Bankshot]

Since neither JC and AB were extended, the question this summer will be, who between the two, we'll keep.

That doesn't mean we can't keep both of them.

[ScoobyDoo]

To Loose Cannon:

"Haha, you see Pressey and Brooks as long-terms pieces".

In building a championship team, how much, exactly, do you plan on paying your 3rd string guys at each position?

$5-6 million a year?
$3-4 million a year?
$2-3 million a year?
$1-2 million a year?

I did not say I saw them as long term pieces - that implies they would play a significant role in an 8-9 man roster that can win a championship. I had them as 3rd strings guards - guys I would want to pay as little as possible to.

I'd put my money into

Rondo / Crawford / Pressey
Bradley / yes, a 3 & D wing is fine / Brooks

I like hwat I've seen from Pressey as a rookie. I am not giving up on brooks yet until either until Stevens does - I still think there may be something half valuable Stevens can pull out of him.

I think young prospects with some potential are a very good fit for the 3rd string position.

For example -Iverson or Faverani - perfect 3rd string centers - cheap.

I'd much rather have that and try to maximize any potential from those types of young than with a half washed up vetteran.


 

[kozlodoev]

To Loose Cannon:

"Haha, you see Pressey and Brooks as long-terms pieces".

In building a championship team, how much, exactly, do you plan on paying your 3rd string guys at each position?

$5-6 million a year?
$3-4 million a year?
$2-3 million a year?
$1-2 million a year?

I did not say I saw them as long term pieces - that implies they would play a significant role in an 8-9 man roster that can win a championship. I had them as 3rd strings guards - guys I would want to pay as little as possible to.

I'd put my money into

Rondo / Crawford / Pressey
Bradley / yes, a 3 & D wing is fine / Brooks

I like hwat I've seen from Pressey as a rookie. I am not giving up on brooks yet until either until Stevens does - I still think there may be something half valuable Stevens can pull out of him.

I think young prospects with some potential are a very good fit for the 3rd string position.

For example -Iverson or Faverani - perfect 3rd string centers - cheap.

I'd much rather have that and try to maximize any potential from those types of young than with a half washed up vetteran.

On a championship-caliber team, your third-stringers are experience players at the vet minimum, not unproven guys with little NBA skill.