What do you all think of Melo in green?

[Rondohara]

He would be too expensive, so no. He is very good, but not good enough for the cost he would have. A trade for him would be nightmare-ish. And for the max contract, he can go to the Lakers (and they'll win nothing)

[dreamgreen]

I'll take him.

Take him and Chandler

For

Humph, JG, Bass, Bogans and some pics.

[Vox_Populi]

If Ainge can land him, I'm all for it.

[indeedproceed]

I think that the asking price and risk of Melo leaving are both too high to validate any kind of realistic trade, but Id love to see Melo in Green.

[oldtype]

I'd infinitely prefer being able to draft Wiggins or Parker, but as I mentioned in the other thread, this is probably our most realistic chance of contending in the near future if we're "too good" this year.

[nostar]

I love the idea of Melo in green. I'm not sure why anyone thinks that is anything more than a pipe dream. I say yes to pretty much any top-25 player joining my team. I feel like that is pretty straight-forward.

Melo wouldn't go to a team in the same division as the Knicks though. It would invite a deep hatred from New York fans and alienate a huge section of his fan base. I doubt he leaves New York but if he does it won't be for any team in our division. It will be for a large market team that he can market his brand in. LA is the obvious landing spot.

Honestly I'd rather have Kevin Love if we're just picking favorites.

[pp34isthe1]

Id cut off my left hand for Melo to be in a C's uniform. I dont see any other player right now more available to play with Rondo in his prime and compete for a championship.

The asking price will be ridiculous, even in a s&t

But if we could keep sully,rondo,and few picks I am all for it. Everyone else is expendable.

[LooseCannon]

Id cut off my left hand for Melo to be in a C's uniform. I dont see any other player right now more available to play with Rondo in his prime and compete for a championship.

The asking price will be ridiculous, even in a s&t

But if we could keep sully,rondo,and few picks I am all for it. Everyone else is expendable.

The asking price for a S&T shouldn't be more than a couple of firsts because that's probably what it would take to get other teams to take on the contracts of Bass and Lee to clear enough cap space to be able to threaten to sign Melo outright (if he takes a bit of a pay cut).

[pp34isthe1]

Id cut off my left hand for Melo to be in a C's uniform. I dont see any other player right now more available to play with Rondo in his prime and compete for a championship.

The asking price will be ridiculous, even in a s&t

But if we could keep sully,rondo,and few picks I am all for it. Everyone else is expendable.

The asking price for a S&T shouldn't be more than a couple of firsts because that's probably what it would take to get other teams to take on the contracts of Bass and Lee to clear enough cap space to be able to threaten to sign Melo outright (if he takes a bit of a pay cut).

ah, i didnt realize we were that close to getting a near max.

[green147]

We need a poll.

[pokeKingCurtis]

We need a poll.

I vote: depending on the price tag on Melo, maybe. Don't wanna mortgage the future without guaranteeing a championship.

[mmmmm]

I fall on the side of thinking that no, Melo is not a cancer.

I also fall on the side of no, I'm not interested in having him on the Celtics.

I don't like the style of basketball that his talent dictates as I don't find it efficient.

And no way no how is he as good as Paul Pierce was.

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"Mr Anthony, you're no Paul Pierce."

Why not compare Pierce's numbers from his rookie year 'til 06-07, when he was the same age as Carmelo is now?

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The net +/- stays about the same at 6.4

Sure, whatever - that comparison still doesn't favor Anthony.

I didn't do that split because wouldn't we all have assumed that the last few years were ones of supposed 'decline' for Pierce?   I guess not.

I just think it's more useful to compare NBA players at similar points in their careers, especially when a large part of the conversation so far has hinged around whether or not Melo could make the same transition Pierce did when KG and Ray ended up on the Celtics.

And, to the "decline," when you're talking about points per FGA the quality of your teammates can speak volumes. I think pre-trade Pierce is more similar to Carmelo than a lot of us choose to remember.

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As I said in my first sentence, I do not believe Anthony is a 'cancer'.  The comparisons of their 'attitudes' doesn't interest me as I do not pretend those quotes give me any real insight into their psyche or social skills in the locker room.   Don't care.

All I know - and I know this from every visible fact available to me - is that Anthony is not as good a basketball player through his career right now as Paul Pierce was in his career through the same point and most likely won't be as good by the time all is said and done with his career.   He'll probably score more total points.  And he may get on a better team and win a title.  But he's simply not as good of a basketball player, imo.

And I will qualify myself by stating that I place a high premium on efficiency with the basketball, minimizing misses and maximizing results on the scoreboard.   Others may use other measures to assess what's important to them in a basketball player.

Also, I think you are bending over backwards a bit too far trying to apologize for Anthony based on the team around him.  Those Denver teams were good, making the playoffs in the West every season and winning 49+ games in 5 of those seasons.   They had far more talent around Anthony than Pierce had in most of the pre-KG era.  And it's not like he had some crappy coach like Avery Johnson.  He had George Karl, one of the best coaches in the NBA.

So for Anthony to come through that and have a net plus/minus on/off rating of just 0.9?   That, to me, says something.

Again, Anthony is very good.  Extremely talented.  But I don't personally like the style of ball his talents dictate as I don't think it makes for good basketball.

Nothing about this asserts that he could not 'change his style' and realize better results in the future in some hypothetical new situation.   But I'm not, personally, interested in seeing him in green.

Edit: to fix broken quote block

[D.o.s.]

No, you're right, I think Pierce is better at basketball than Carmelo.

Those quotes weren't really for you.

[CapnDunks]

I don't think Melo can win a chip being the leader of a team. He's a headcase and is mentally weak. Gets rattled, plays stupid. If he comes and joins Rondo's team and sees it that way, then great.

Melo reminds me a TON of Pierce (although as impartially as possible I agree Pierce is the better player) PP couldn't get that chip until he accepted a role and grew as an overall player(and got a ton of help). Melo is still too one-sided.

[GreenWarrior]

this thread is a big disappointment as far as the fan base goes.

I don't understand how anyone could have watched pierce all these yrs. and then settle for the likes of Anthony.

sometimes the best moves are the ones you don't make.

Pierce made the players around him better. every where carmello goes his teams deteriorate.