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Re: Knicks interested in Rondo?
« Reply #30 on: November 17, 2013, 08:07:27 PM »

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Another scenario out of this could be that Ainge just holds his cards close to his chest and monitors the Knick/Melo situation.

Apparently, he was critical of the team yesterday when they lost to the Hawks.

Perhaps Danny just bides his team and targets Carmelo as our new "KG" type pickup.

This would be the smart thing to do. We have plenty of assets to grab a disgruntled superstar

Yup. Here's a question I would have. If the Celts end up with a top 10 pick for next summer, would you package that with Jeff Green for Carmelo?

I bet you New York at least considers that.

I don't think the Knicks ever dealing Melo to Boston is that far-fetched.

Re: Knicks interested in Rondo?
« Reply #31 on: November 17, 2013, 08:07:27 PM »

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I don't understand this rumor at all. Amare is cooked, done, etc, Shumpert is identical to Bradley, and Felton is much worse than Rondo. Why would we do this? We downgrade our roster just to get rid of contracts but take on Amare's bad deal?

Shumpert's identical to Bradley while being 5 or 6 inches taller.

try about 2 inches taller. Shumpert is not 6'9

Bradley is about 6'2-6'3, Shumpert is 6'5

Bradley's 6'2.

And KG and Bill Walton are really 6'11.
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like I said, 6'2-6'3. You conveniently forgot to mention that Shumpert is 6'5, not 6'8 or 6'9 like you initially claimed.

No, I know Shumpert's listed at +/- 6'5. If Bradley's 6'2, that's a very generous 6'2--the same way KG's and Walton are both 7 footers who claim(ed) otherwise, hence my five or six inches comment.
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Re: Knicks interested in Rondo?
« Reply #32 on: November 17, 2013, 08:09:35 PM »

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I may not understand but Amare has this year and next at $23M. The early termination is a player option, not a team option.  I can't imagine he would ever opt out of that.  He would never get anything close to that money if he opted out.  The Player's Association would probably not let him.

I am not big on trading Rondo for draft picks.  We have enough of them for many years.  Sure, a 2017 and 2019 pick sounds good but I think we can get more immediate return for Rondo.

I am not opposed to trading Rondo for the right deal but I am opposed to trading Rondo just to trade him.  The potential deals with the Knicks seem like the latter.

Re: Knicks interested in Rondo?
« Reply #33 on: November 17, 2013, 08:10:01 PM »

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Another scenario out of this could be that Ainge just holds his cards close to his chest and monitors the Knick/Melo situation.

Apparently, he was critical of the team yesterday when they lost to the Hawks.

Perhaps Danny just bides his team and targets Carmelo as our new "KG" type pickup.

This would be the smart thing to do. We have plenty of assets to grab a disgruntled superstar

Yup. Here's a question I would have. If the Celts end up with a top 10 pick for next summer, would you package that with Jeff Green for Carmelo?

I bet you New York at least considers that.

I don't think the Knicks ever dealing Melo to Boston is that far-fetched.

In a heart beat.
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Re: Knicks interested in Rondo?
« Reply #34 on: November 17, 2013, 08:31:22 PM »

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Of course the Knicks would want to do that trade.  Ainge isn't stupid though, so I don't even see the point of somebody printing that quote.  To me Shumpert is a Courtney Lee/Avery Bradley type.  Not someone you need to go out of your way to acquire. 
Amare is untradeable, Felton is a far below average starter in today's nba, chandler would be a nice piece for a team who is one player away from contending, and Carmelo is a ball hog.  I have no interest in anyone on that team, and I hope Ainge feels the same way.

Re: Knicks interested in Rondo?
« Reply #35 on: November 17, 2013, 08:40:23 PM »

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I personally LOVE Rondo, but the package that Chambers suggested is not all that bad.

We could be competing by 2017 while being fed (potentially) top picks from both New York teams
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Re: Knicks interested in Rondo?
« Reply #36 on: November 17, 2013, 08:44:07 PM »

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If the Celtics want to bottom out for the lottery then it's slightly possible.

  I've seen plenty of evidence that many fans want the team to bottom out, not so much that management does.

Just looking at our roster and a rookie head coach is enough evidence to convince me

  So you're convinced that they're trying to trade players like Rondo and Green? I think the jury's still out, and  Danny will see if he can add a star to the team before he throws in the towel.

Re: Knicks interested in Rondo?
« Reply #37 on: November 17, 2013, 08:45:36 PM »

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Re: Knicks interested in Rondo?
« Reply #38 on: November 17, 2013, 08:50:17 PM »

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Another scenario out of this could be that Ainge just holds his cards close to his chest and monitors the Knick/Melo situation.

Apparently, he was critical of the team yesterday when they lost to the Hawks.

Perhaps Danny just bides his team and targets Carmelo as our new "KG" type pickup.

This would be the smart thing to do. We have plenty of assets to grab a disgruntled superstar

Yup. Here's a question I would have. If the Celts end up with a top 10 pick for next summer, would you package that with Jeff Green for Carmelo?

I bet you New York at least considers that.

I don't think the Knicks ever dealing Melo to Boston is that far-fetched.

  A top 10 pick that's not a top 3 pick?

Re: Knicks interested in Rondo?
« Reply #39 on: November 17, 2013, 08:53:17 PM »

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Another scenario out of this could be that Ainge just holds his cards close to his chest and monitors the Knick/Melo situation.

Apparently, he was critical of the team yesterday when they lost to the Hawks.

Perhaps Danny just bides his team and targets Carmelo as our new "KG" type pickup.

This would be the smart thing to do. We have plenty of assets to grab a disgruntled superstar

Yup. Here's a question I would have. If the Celts end up with a top 10 pick for next summer, would you package that with Jeff Green for Carmelo?

I bet you New York at least considers that.

I don't think the Knicks ever dealing Melo to Boston is that far-fetched.

In a heart beat.

I think I would too. You build around Rondo, Melo and one more star player and I think we could be in the conversation of raising another banner in the next couple years.

Re: Knicks interested in Rondo?
« Reply #40 on: November 17, 2013, 08:54:02 PM »

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Another scenario out of this could be that Ainge just holds his cards close to his chest and monitors the Knick/Melo situation.

Apparently, he was critical of the team yesterday when they lost to the Hawks.

Perhaps Danny just bides his team and targets Carmelo as our new "KG" type pickup.

This would be the smart thing to do. We have plenty of assets to grab a disgruntled superstar

Yup. Here's a question I would have. If the Celts end up with a top 10 pick for next summer, would you package that with Jeff Green for Carmelo?

I bet you New York at least considers that.

I don't think the Knicks ever dealing Melo to Boston is that far-fetched.

  A top 10 pick that's not a top 3 pick?

I think it's safe to assume this trade is based on the 5-10 range of "top ten."

At least, I know I did.
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Re: Knicks interested in Rondo?
« Reply #41 on: November 17, 2013, 08:54:12 PM »

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first round pick 2017
first round pick 2019



The Knicks have already traded their 2016 pick (which will go to either Denver or Toronto) so they cannot trade their 2017 first-round pick.

Yeah, earliest pick they can do is 2018, which is 5 years from now!

I personally don't want more picks. I want players.

As mentioned, I think while still slim, there is a better chance Danny could bring Carmelo to Boston to play with Rondo. Boston's pile of assets is significantly bigger than New York's. it's not even close really.
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Re: Knicks interested in Rondo?
« Reply #42 on: November 17, 2013, 08:56:41 PM »

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Another scenario out of this could be that Ainge just holds his cards close to his chest and monitors the Knick/Melo situation.

Apparently, he was critical of the team yesterday when they lost to the Hawks.

Perhaps Danny just bides his team and targets Carmelo as our new "KG" type pickup.

This would be the smart thing to do. We have plenty of assets to grab a disgruntled superstar

Yup. Here's a question I would have. If the Celts end up with a top 10 pick for next summer, would you package that with Jeff Green for Carmelo?

I bet you New York at least considers that.

I don't think the Knicks ever dealing Melo to Boston is that far-fetched.

In a heart beat.

I think I would too. You build around Rondo, Melo and one more star player and I think we could be in the conversation of raising another banner in the next couple years.

And we've got a whole bunch of assets remaining to get that star player. Rondo + Melo is nothing to sneeze at--Melo had his best success playing with an All-Star PG in Chauncey Billups, after all.

As much as it pains me to say it, I don't think NY goes for it--simply because I see James Dolan telling their GM "If you approve this trade I will fire you, kidnap you, and make you listen to my awful white-dude blues band for all eternity."
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Re: Knicks interested in Rondo?
« Reply #43 on: November 17, 2013, 08:57:41 PM »

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Another scenario out of this could be that Ainge just holds his cards close to his chest and monitors the Knick/Melo situation.

Apparently, he was critical of the team yesterday when they lost to the Hawks.

Perhaps Danny just bides his team and targets Carmelo as our new "KG" type pickup.

This would be the smart thing to do. We have plenty of assets to grab a disgruntled superstar

Yup. Here's a question I would have. If the Celts end up with a top 10 pick for next summer, would you package that with Jeff Green for Carmelo?

I bet you New York at least considers that.

I don't think the Knicks ever dealing Melo to Boston is that far-fetched.

  A top 10 pick that's not a top 3 pick?

Yup. I think a package centered around Jeff Green and ANY pick 1-10 (IF the Celtics end up with a pick in that range) for Carmelo is something both teams would have to consider.


Re: Knicks interested in Rondo?
« Reply #44 on: November 17, 2013, 09:19:19 PM »

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The only deal I consider with the Knicks is Amare for Wallace , Lee and Bass.