Knicks interested in Rondo?

[ssspence]

Totally unrelated to Rondo:

I just took a look at the Knicks on the trade machine, and its unreal how few 'assets' they have. Who is a truly attractive acquisition prospect? Shumpert's the best they have? After sucking for the last 20 years? Awful awful roster (and yes, I'm aware Carmela plays there).

How is it they've avoided having anyone with any chops land and stick on that team for as long as they have? Weird.

[BballTim]

Another scenario out of this could be that Ainge just holds his cards close to his chest and monitors the Knick/Melo situation.

Apparently, he was critical of the team yesterday when they lost to the Hawks.

Perhaps Danny just bides his team and targets Carmelo as our new "KG" type pickup.

This would be the smart thing to do. We have plenty of assets to grab a disgruntled superstar

Yup. Here's a question I would have. If the Celts end up with a top 10 pick for next summer, would you package that with Jeff Green for Carmelo?

I bet you New York at least considers that.

I don't think the Knicks ever dealing Melo to Boston is that far-fetched.

In a heart beat.

I think I would too. You build around Rondo, Melo and one more star player and I think we could be in the conversation of raising another banner in the next couple years.

  You probably wouldn't need a bonafide star, in fact it would take any pressure off of your center to be much of a scorer. Say you trade some assets for Asik (from another thread), a lineup of something like Asik/Sully/Melo/Bradley/Rondo would be a pretty strong group.

[D.o.s.]

Totally unrelated to Rondo:

I just took a look at the Knicks on the trade machine, and its unreal how few 'assets' they have. Who is a truly attractive acquisition prospect? Shumpert's the best they have? After sucking for the last 20 years? Awful awful roster (and yes, I'm aware Carmela plays there).

How is it they've avoided having anyone with any chops land and stick on that team for as long as they have? Weird.

[BleedGreen1989]

Totally unrelated to Rondo:

I just took a look at the Knicks on the trade machine, and its unreal how few 'assets' they have. Who is a truly attractive acquisition prospect? Shumpert's the best they have? After sucking for the last 20 years? Awful awful roster (and yes, I'm aware Carmela plays there).

How is it they've avoided having anyone with any chops land and stick on that team for as long as they have? Weird.

Yeah, that roster is truly hideous.

[slamtheking]

Another scenario out of this could be that Ainge just holds his cards close to his chest and monitors the Knick/Melo situation.

Apparently, he was critical of the team yesterday when they lost to the Hawks.

Perhaps Danny just bides his team and targets Carmelo as our new "KG" type pickup.

This would be the smart thing to do. We have plenty of assets to grab a disgruntled superstar

Yup. Here's a question I would have. If the Celts end up with a top 10 pick for next summer, would you package that with Jeff Green for Carmelo?

I bet you New York at least considers that.

I don't think the Knicks ever dealing Melo to Boston is that far-fetched.

In a heart beat.

I think I would too. You build around Rondo, Melo and one more star player and I think we could be in the conversation of raising another banner in the next couple years.

  You probably wouldn't need a bonafide star, in fact it would take any pressure off of your center to be much of a scorer. Say you trade some assets for Asik (from another thread), a lineup of something like Asik/Sully/Melo/Bradley/Rondo would be a pretty strong group.

if Asik, sully and Rondo are starting with Melo, we'd need a better scorer at SG than AB.

[BballTim]

Another scenario out of this could be that Ainge just holds his cards close to his chest and monitors the Knick/Melo situation.

Apparently, he was critical of the team yesterday when they lost to the Hawks.

Perhaps Danny just bides his team and targets Carmelo as our new "KG" type pickup.

This would be the smart thing to do. We have plenty of assets to grab a disgruntled superstar

Yup. Here's a question I would have. If the Celts end up with a top 10 pick for next summer, would you package that with Jeff Green for Carmelo?

I bet you New York at least considers that.

I don't think the Knicks ever dealing Melo to Boston is that far-fetched.

In a heart beat.

I think I would too. You build around Rondo, Melo and one more star player and I think we could be in the conversation of raising another banner in the next couple years.

  You probably wouldn't need a bonafide star, in fact it would take any pressure off of your center to be much of a scorer. Say you trade some assets for Asik (from another thread), a lineup of something like Asik/Sully/Melo/Bradley/Rondo would be a pretty strong group.

if Asik, sully and Rondo are starting with Melo, we'd need a better scorer at SG than AB.

  Not really. We'd probably be more interested in scoring from our backup wing.

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

Another scenario out of this could be that Ainge just holds his cards close to his chest and monitors the Knick/Melo situation.

Apparently, he was critical of the team yesterday when they lost to the Hawks.

Perhaps Danny just bides his team and targets Carmelo as our new "KG" type pickup.

This would be the smart thing to do. We have plenty of assets to grab a disgruntled superstar

Yup. Here's a question I would have. If the Celts end up with a top 10 pick for next summer, would you package that with Jeff Green for Carmelo?

I bet you New York at least considers that.

I don't think the Knicks ever dealing Melo to Boston is that far-fetched.

In a heart beat.

I think I would too. You build around Rondo, Melo and one more star player and I think we could be in the conversation of raising another banner in the next couple years.

  You probably wouldn't need a bonafide star, in fact it would take any pressure off of your center to be much of a scorer. Say you trade some assets for Asik (from another thread), a lineup of something like Asik/Sully/Melo/Bradley/Rondo would be a pretty strong group.

if Asik, sully and Rondo are starting with Melo, we'd need a better scorer at SG than AB.

We won't need that scorer, if they gel, that's a great defensive unit. I don't like Melo, NO THANK YOU.

[WeMadeIt17]

I think the plan is to go after the melo this off-season. He and Rondo would be a legit 1 2 punch. Don't we have money to offer a max this off-season?

[gpap]

Not much of a surprise but I just caught these two tweets from everyone's favorite sports reporter

Chris Broussard @Chris_Broussard

While C's not moving Rondo, they would take back Amare in deal n which they could unload longer deals of Gerald Wallace &/or Courtney Lee

Twitter

Chris Broussard @Chris_Broussard

Knicks looking to upgrade at PG, have eye on Rondo. But sources say no interest on Celtics' part

[D.o.s.]

Not much of a surprise but I just caught these two tweets from everyone's favorite sports reporter

Chris Broussard @Chris_Broussard

While C's not moving Rondo, they would take back Amare in deal n which they could unload longer deals of Gerald Wallace &/or Courtney Lee

Twitter

Chris Broussard @Chris_Broussard

Knicks looking to upgrade at PG, have eye on Rondo. But sources say no interest on Celtics' part

Chris Broussard confirming what we've already sussed out.

CB is Danny Ainge's hivemind.

[LooseCannon]

I think the plan is to go after the melo this off-season. He and Rondo would be a legit 1 2 punch. Don't we have money to offer a max this off-season?

If the plan is to go after Melo, the Celtics would probably be more attractive if they made the playoffs.

The Celtics could probably clear the cap space to offer Melo a huge contract.  The team would have to give another team first round picks to take on contracts such as Bass and Lee in the same way that Golden State used picks to clear space to have a shot at Dwight Howard and to be able to threaten to sign Iguadala outright so that Denver had to agree to a sign-and-trade to salvage something.

Maybe Melo makes it obvious he wants to leave because the Knicks are hopeless and you could get some ridiculously huge trade such as Carmelo Anthony in a sign-and-trade and Tyson Chandler for Green, Faverani, Bass, Lee, the unguaranteed contract of Bogans, and 3 or 4 first-round picks.

The Celtics could look like:

Chandler
Sullinger
Anthony
Bradley
Rondo

with a bench including Wallace, Olynyk, and Pressey (although I suspect the Knicks would press hard to get either Sullinger or Olynyk in any deal).  The Celtics may end up far enough under the apron to use the full MLE.  Ship out enough salary early enough in the off-season and they may even be able to take the contracts of some good but possibly overpaid players in a salary dump by using their trade exception.  Colton Iverson might be ready to be a third-string center.  You could get some ring-hunter for the veteran's minimum and some useful players may find themselves settling for the minimum in August or September when free agent money dries up.

[AB_Celtic]

Dunno if this has been suggested:

Rondo, C.Lee, Wallace
for
Felton, Shumpert, Stoudemire, first round pick(s)

Celtics:
Felton/Crawford
Shumpert/Bradley
Green/
Sullinger/Bass/Olynyk
Faverani/Stoudemire

Knicks:
Rondo/Prigioni
C.Lee/JR
Wallace/MWP
Anthony/Bargnani
Chandler/Martin

Makes sense for both teams.

[D.o.s.]

Dunno if this has been suggested:

Rondo, C.Lee, Wallace
for
Felton, Shumpert, Stoudemire, first round pick(s)

Celtics:
Felton/Crawford
Shumpert/Bradley
Green/
Sullinger/Bass/Olynyk
Faverani/Stoudemire

Knicks:
Rondo/Prigioni
C.Lee/JR
Wallace/MWP
Anthony/Bargnani
Chandler/Martin

Makes sense for both teams.

Until you realize that NY has no tradable first round draft picks until 2018.

I like 'Melo's game more than most CB'ers, but I still think that him leaving New York is an incredible longshot.

[BballTim]

Dunno if this has been suggested:

Rondo, C.Lee, Wallace
for
Felton, Shumpert, Stoudemire, first round pick(s)

Celtics:
Felton/Crawford
Shumpert/Bradley
Green/
Sullinger/Bass/Olynyk
Faverani/Stoudemire

Knicks:
Rondo/Prigioni
C.Lee/JR
Wallace/MWP
Anthony/Bargnani
Chandler/Martin

Makes sense for both teams.

  How can that possibly make sense for the Celts? Are they in some kind of contest to be the most unwatchable team in the league?

[AB_Celtic]

Until you realize that NY has no tradable first round draft picks until 2018.

Oh.

That's an issue.