Gut feeling Rondo will be on a plane to Houston for Asik before the deadline

[BballTim]

Let's go ahead and trade our only allstar for role players.

Trading Rondo for us would be like when Minny traded KG: last resort when everything else fails.  We're nowhere near that bad, and even in the Toine years, we were better.

Imagine trading Pierce and keeping Toine.  That's what trading Rondo and keeping these other guys would be like.

KG wasn't coming off a major knee injury with a negative reputation and a rookie coach.  Boston needs to at least look at offers and I wouldn't exactly call Lin or Asik role players.

  They're role players in the sense that players like Bradley or Bass are role players. They're part of the supporting cast, not the players that will lead a team anywhere.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

THAT would be a terrible trade......Asik is good..but not RONDO good......humpries.....or many others maybe..but not rondo.......guys like him just don't come around all the time.....

[Eddie20]

My gut tells me that it is more likely Rondo is the top player on the Celtics for the next five seasons.  It also tells me I want a sandwich.

I really hope not. Not that I don't want him on our team, but if he's the best player we have then it'll be early  playoff exits at best.

  Yes, just like in 2010 and 2012. Notice, just for fun, that the two earliest playoff exits of the 2008-2013 KG era Celts were the year without Rondo and the year Rondo suffered a serious injury in the playoffs.

In 2010, LA dared Rondo to shoot the whole series, which cost us dearly. In 2012, we beat an Atlanta team, that was missing Horford, and then we avoided Chicago because of Rose's injury, and went 7 vs Philly. Again, if Rondo is our best player we aren't going to go that far.I realize your Rondo's unofficial spokesman, so I expect nothing more than an elaborate response detailing the greatness of Rondo in 3...2...1...

  Rondo didn't have his best series against LA in 2010 (he wasn't at his healthiest) and we still probably would have won that series if Perk didn't blow out his knee. In 2012 we didn't have Green or Wilcox or any shooting guard that was healthy enough to play halfway decently. Rondo was our best player, and we did go that far. Claiming we can't win in the playoffs with Rondo as our best player is like claiming he could never lead the league in assists. You've already been proven wrong.

I wouldn't say that Rondo was our best player in 2010. I think flatly saying so discredits KG and Pierce, who often times during those playoffs were our best player. I think all took turns in being our best player.

In 2012, we got lucky. We avoided Chicago in the 2nd rd and that's the truth of the matter. A healthy Rose means we don't get far. So assuming teams are healthy, again that's always the biggest variable, having Rondo as your best player means the odds are long that you'll advance deep into the playoffs. Now, if Rondo is "sometimes" your best player like in 2010, and the rest of the core guys are of similar quality as KG and Pierce of 2010, then yes, we can go far.

[D.o.s.]

Let's go ahead and trade our only allstar for role players.

Trading Rondo for us would be like when Minny traded KG: last resort when everything else fails.  We're nowhere near that bad, and even in the Toine years, we were better.

Imagine trading Pierce and keeping Toine.  That's what trading Rondo and keeping these other guys would be like.

Do you think our team is going to finish with a better record than 32-50?

To chime in, I agree that we probably overachieved in the 2012 playoffs and were very lucky with some of our matchups.

[jambr380]

Let's go ahead and trade our only allstar for role players.

Trading Rondo for us would be like when Minny traded KG: last resort when everything else fails.  We're nowhere near that bad, and even in the Toine years, we were better.

Imagine trading Pierce and keeping Toine.  That's what trading Rondo and keeping these other guys would be like.

In the trade with Minnesota, we got an aging superstar going into his 13th year while giving up an Andre Drummond type of prospect, another intriguing prospect [at the time] in Gerald Green, the #6 pick in the 09 draft, another first round pick, as well as solid players Gomes and Telfair. Minnesota got quite the haul for KG - if they had chosen Stephen Curry instead of Jonny Flynn, Gerald Green had broken out, and they didn't screw up the Big Al situation, we might be talking about a perennial championship contender.

As for Toine, he was just coming off his third all-star game appearance and another decent playoff run as part of a pretty strong 1-2 punch. Danny Ainge was a new gm and wanted to take the team in a different direction.

Trading Toine for Raef is almost exactly the same thing as trading Rondo for Asik (only difference, and it's a major one, is Raef had 5 years remaining on his horrible contract). It just so happens that we have no one currently better than Rondo.

[blink]

Let's go ahead and trade our only allstar for role players.

Trading Rondo for us would be like when Minny traded KG: last resort when everything else fails.  We're nowhere near that bad, and even in the Toine years, we were better.

Imagine trading Pierce and keeping Toine.  That's what trading Rondo and keeping these other guys would be like.

KG wasn't coming off a major knee injury with a negative reputation and a rookie coach.  Boston needs to at least look at offers and I wouldn't exactly call Lin or Asik role players.

Well what would you call Lin and Asik then? 

[hpantazo]

Let's go ahead and trade our only allstar for role players.

Trading Rondo for us would be like when Minny traded KG: last resort when everything else fails.  We're nowhere near that bad, and even in the Toine years, we were better.

Imagine trading Pierce and keeping Toine.  That's what trading Rondo and keeping these other guys would be like.

In the trade with Minnesota, we got an aging superstar going into his 13th year while giving up an Andre Drummond type of prospect, another intriguing prospect [at the time] in Gerald Green, the #6 pick in the 09 draft, another first round pick, as well as solid players Gomes and Telfair. Minnesota got quite the haul for KG - if they had chosen Stephen Curry instead of Jonny Flynn, Gerald Green had broken out, and they didn't screw up the Big Al situation, we might be talking about a perennial championship contender.

As for Toine, he was just coming off his third all-star game appearance and another decent playoff run as part of a pretty strong 1-2 punch. Danny Ainge was a new gm and wanted to take the team in a different direction.

Trading Toine for Raef is almost exactly the same thing as trading Rondo for Asik (only difference, and it's a major one, is Raef had 5 years remaining on his horrible contract). It just so happens that we have no one currently better than Rondo.

Wow. I would call Al Jefferson at that time a Sullinger type of prospect much, much more than a Drummond type of prospect. Greg Oden before his knee injuries was more like a Drummond type of prospect.

[hpantazo]

Let's go ahead and trade our only allstar for role players.

Trading Rondo for us would be like when Minny traded KG: last resort when everything else fails.  We're nowhere near that bad, and even in the Toine years, we were better.

Imagine trading Pierce and keeping Toine.  That's what trading Rondo and keeping these other guys would be like.

KG wasn't coming off a major knee injury with a negative reputation and a rookie coach.  Boston needs to at least look at offers and I wouldn't exactly call Lin or Asik role players.

Well what would you call Lin and Asik then?

starters and borderline star players. They will never be your number 1 or two player on a contender, but they are legit starters who can provide major contributions at the two most difficult positions to fill.

[D.o.s.]

Let's go ahead and trade our only allstar for role players.

Trading Rondo for us would be like when Minny traded KG: last resort when everything else fails.  We're nowhere near that bad, and even in the Toine years, we were better.

Imagine trading Pierce and keeping Toine.  That's what trading Rondo and keeping these other guys would be like.

In the trade with Minnesota, we got an aging superstar going into his 13th year while giving up an Andre Drummond type of prospect, another intriguing prospect [at the time] in Gerald Green, the #6 pick in the 09 draft, another first round pick, as well as solid players Gomes and Telfair. Minnesota got quite the haul for KG - if they had chosen Stephen Curry instead of Jonny Flynn, Gerald Green had broken out, and they didn't screw up the Big Al situation, we might be talking about a perennial championship contender.

As for Toine, he was just coming off his third all-star game appearance and another decent playoff run as part of a pretty strong 1-2 punch. Danny Ainge was a new gm and wanted to take the team in a different direction.

Trading Toine for Raef is almost exactly the same thing as trading Rondo for Asik (only difference, and it's a major one, is Raef had 5 years remaining on his horrible contract). It just so happens that we have no one currently better than Rondo.

Wow. I would call Al Jefferson at that time a Sullinger type of prospect much, much more than a Drummond type of prospect. Greg Oden before his knee injuries was more like a Drummond type of prospect.

Except that Greg Oden was much, much better at basketball than Andre Drummond when both of them were drafted.

[hpantazo]

Let's go ahead and trade our only allstar for role players.

Trading Rondo for us would be like when Minny traded KG: last resort when everything else fails.  We're nowhere near that bad, and even in the Toine years, we were better.

Imagine trading Pierce and keeping Toine.  That's what trading Rondo and keeping these other guys would be like.

KG wasn't coming off a major knee injury with a negative reputation and a rookie coach.  Boston needs to at least look at offers and I wouldn't exactly call Lin or Asik role players.

  They're role players in the sense that players like Bradley or Bass are role players. They're part of the supporting cast, not the players that will lead a team anywhere.

Asik and Lin are good players, Bradley and Bass are mediocre players.

[hpantazo]

Let's go ahead and trade our only allstar for role players.

Trading Rondo for us would be like when Minny traded KG: last resort when everything else fails.  We're nowhere near that bad, and even in the Toine years, we were better.

Imagine trading Pierce and keeping Toine.  That's what trading Rondo and keeping these other guys would be like.

In the trade with Minnesota, we got an aging superstar going into his 13th year while giving up an Andre Drummond type of prospect, another intriguing prospect [at the time] in Gerald Green, the #6 pick in the 09 draft, another first round pick, as well as solid players Gomes and Telfair. Minnesota got quite the haul for KG - if they had chosen Stephen Curry instead of Jonny Flynn, Gerald Green had broken out, and they didn't screw up the Big Al situation, we might be talking about a perennial championship contender.

As for Toine, he was just coming off his third all-star game appearance and another decent playoff run as part of a pretty strong 1-2 punch. Danny Ainge was a new gm and wanted to take the team in a different direction.

Trading Toine for Raef is almost exactly the same thing as trading Rondo for Asik (only difference, and it's a major one, is Raef had 5 years remaining on his horrible contract). It just so happens that we have no one currently better than Rondo.

Wow. I would call Al Jefferson at that time a Sullinger type of prospect much, much more than a Drummond type of prospect. Greg Oden before his knee injuries was more like a Drummond type of prospect.

Except that Greg Oden was much, much better at basketball than Andre Drummond when both of them were drafted.

He was more polished, but as far as potential goes, no, he was not "much, much better"

Sullinger and Jefferson is a "much, much more" reasonable comparison than Jefferson and Drummond.

[blink]

Let's go ahead and trade our only allstar for role players.

Trading Rondo for us would be like when Minny traded KG: last resort when everything else fails.  We're nowhere near that bad, and even in the Toine years, we were better.

Imagine trading Pierce and keeping Toine.  That's what trading Rondo and keeping these other guys would be like.

KG wasn't coming off a major knee injury with a negative reputation and a rookie coach.  Boston needs to at least look at offers and I wouldn't exactly call Lin or Asik role players.

Well what would you call Lin and Asik then?

starters and borderline star players. They will never be your number 1 or two player on a contender, but they are legit starters who can provide major contributions at the two most difficult positions to fill.

If you feel point guard is one of the most difficult position to fill (I don't believe it is) then why trade your all star point guard for a definite step down in lin?  It makes no sense to me.

[hpantazo]

If Houston wants to add in Terrence Jones and Demo and we send like either Gerald Wallace and/or Bass and/or Brooks then I'd say we got a deal

I would do this deal. Motiejunas and Terrence Jones are very good prospects, and Lin and Asik fill two important positions, and we shed all our bad contracts

[blink]

Let's go ahead and trade our only allstar for role players.

Trading Rondo for us would be like when Minny traded KG: last resort when everything else fails.  We're nowhere near that bad, and even in the Toine years, we were better.

Imagine trading Pierce and keeping Toine.  That's what trading Rondo and keeping these other guys would be like.

KG wasn't coming off a major knee injury with a negative reputation and a rookie coach.  Boston needs to at least look at offers and I wouldn't exactly call Lin or Asik role players.

  They're role players in the sense that players like Bradley or Bass are role players. They're part of the supporting cast, not the players that will lead a team anywhere.

Asik and Lin are good players, Bradley and Bass are mediocre players.

I don't agree at all about Lin and Bradley.  To me Bradley's hustle and D vastly outweigh Lin's streaky shooting.

Bass and Asik eh, they are both capable and steady.

[D.o.s.]

Let's go ahead and trade our only allstar for role players.

Trading Rondo for us would be like when Minny traded KG: last resort when everything else fails.  We're nowhere near that bad, and even in the Toine years, we were better.

Imagine trading Pierce and keeping Toine.  That's what trading Rondo and keeping these other guys would be like.

In the trade with Minnesota, we got an aging superstar going into his 13th year while giving up an Andre Drummond type of prospect, another intriguing prospect [at the time] in Gerald Green, the #6 pick in the 09 draft, another first round pick, as well as solid players Gomes and Telfair. Minnesota got quite the haul for KG - if they had chosen Stephen Curry instead of Jonny Flynn, Gerald Green had broken out, and they didn't screw up the Big Al situation, we might be talking about a perennial championship contender.

As for Toine, he was just coming off his third all-star game appearance and another decent playoff run as part of a pretty strong 1-2 punch. Danny Ainge was a new gm and wanted to take the team in a different direction.

Trading Toine for Raef is almost exactly the same thing as trading Rondo for Asik (only difference, and it's a major one, is Raef had 5 years remaining on his horrible contract). It just so happens that we have no one currently better than Rondo.

Wow. I would call Al Jefferson at that time a Sullinger type of prospect much, much more than a Drummond type of prospect. Greg Oden before his knee injuries was more like a Drummond type of prospect.

Except that Greg Oden was much, much better at basketball than Andre Drummond when both of them were drafted.

He was more polished, but as far as potential goes, no, he was not "much, much better"

Sullinger and Jefferson is a "much, much more" reasonable comparison than Jefferson and Drummond.

No one was talking about potential until you brought it up. Oden was a great college basketball player (15.7 [on 61% shooting]/9.6/3.3 blocks in 28 minutes) Andre Drummond (10.0 [on 53% shooting]/7.6/2.7 blocks in 28 minutes) is an immense athlete. Neither of those things invalidate the other.

I agree with your second sentence, though.

I'd say that your reading comprehension has potential. I'd say that your grammar is polished. See the difference?