Am i the only one who just doesn't see anything in KO?

[pj]

I don't think he's Adam Morrison, but he is not near Dirk. he can be a solid player but yeah he is overhyped. I'm high on Sully too

yeah..you're absolutely right! im not seeing him as a starting five in any nba team..i guess not even on d league..
im not sure why stevens is starting him over hump.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

ithink he has plenty to offer and getting better every game.....he needs more post work but has a lot of post potential.....he will learn better D...he is a rookie..!!!

[coco]

I don't think he's Adam Morrison, but he is not near Dirk. he can be a solid player but yeah he is overhyped. I'm high on Sully too

yeah..you're absolutely right! im not seeing him as a starting five in any nba team..i guess not even on d league..
im not sure why stevens is starting him over hump.

Actually, watching Sully and KO is the only reason I'm watching games this season.  It would really stink to have to watch a losing team playing Hump and Bass 30 min + every night knowing too well they aren't part of our future

[Snakehead]

I don't think he's Adam Morrison, but he is not near Dirk. he can be a solid player but yeah he is overhyped. I'm high on Sully too

yeah..you're absolutely right! im not seeing him as a starting five in any nba team..i guess not even on d league..
im not sure why stevens is starting him over hump.

Actually, watching Sully and KO is the only reason I'm watching games this season.  It would really stink to have to watch a losing team playing Hump and Bass 30 min + every night knowing too well they aren't part of our future

People arguing against playing young players to develop them on what would be a bad team anyways are mind boggling to me.

[NocturnalRebel]

And if he's traded at some point and balls out elsewhere, Danny would be in tha wrong 

Olynyk is fine. He has good skills for a big man. He's young, has time to develop and improve on improvements. To add to that Danny dubbed him a really good complementary [role] player. It's not like he was drafted number 1 and is shooting 5-of-35.

[chambers]

Too early yet. He'll put on muscle and they'll develop his post game- his footwork is pretty good and he's pretty intelligent so he'll catch on fast. He needs work on his feet positioning when he catches passes in rotation situations and get slightly more arc on his shot.
Because of his lack of wingspan, a fading/fall away shot ala Dirk with one knee up for protection would do him serious justice.

You can't write the kid off after 10 games though lol.
Think about how much he improved in 2 years in college with his growth spurt. He should learn very quickly and he'll either be a starting level forward in the NBA (or better), or he'll be decent trade bait as a bench contributor stretch big man.

Size, skill and co-ordination don't come around like Olynyk very often. Not to mention his shooting stroke from distance. The odds are in his favor for sure.

[D.o.s.]

He obviously needs to get better, but he hasn't looked like Fab out there.

[saltlover]

He's a big who can score from inside and out, and is a great passer.  His defense is also not good, not is his rebounding.  He's been pretty much as advertised.  I think his defense will improve a little bit as time goes on, because he's young and not accustomed to nba size, but he'll never have the strength, size, or quickness to even be an average defender.  But he can score and really help with your spacing on offense, so if you can protect him on defense a little, he's a pretty useful player.  The Dirk comparisons need to stop tho  -- it's not fair to a kid to compare him to a hall of Famer in his rookie year, and not at least until he reaches an all-star game , which he'll probably never do.

[Vox_Populi]

Well, he was the 13th pick in a relatively weak draft, so I'm not sure why anyone expected him to set the league on fire.

But I like him. He's got a lot to learn, but he has lots of potential to be a solid, if unspectacular, NBA rotation player. And he's only 10 games into his career. Give him some time.

Pretty much.

[fitzhickey]

I don't think he's Adam Morrison, but he is not near Dirk. he can be a solid player but yeah he is overhyped. I'm high on Sully too

yeah..you're absolutely right! im not seeing him as a starting five in any nba team..i guess not even on d league..
im not sure why stevens is starting him over hump.

Not really what I meant. Dude has potential, but not as much as I have heard some people say he has. I think he will be a solid rotation player for his career, but I am all for playing him and developing him, Sully and Fav.

[krumeto]

Dirk in his first year  20 MPG, 40%FG, 20%3P%, 3RPG, 1 APG, 8 PPG.
Based on that - the next EU scrub, cannot shoot at all, should never attempt a 3 pointer, cannot rebound, very poor D.
Kelly so far (11 games) - 21MPG, 41% FG, 16,7%3P%, 5,3 RPG, 1,7 APG, 7,8 PPG. Not a significant difference, no?
If we have a 20 games rule for the team, we need at least a 40 games rule for our rookies, esp. the bigs.

[Celtics4ever]

I think work in the weight room will help him a lot.   He is too soft, and this will even help his confidence which seems shot right now.

[billysan]

I think work in the weight room will help him a lot.   He is too soft, and this will even help his confidence which seems shot right now.

This is also my feeling. Add serious strength training with a little experience and time to learn the NBA, defenses, gain confidence will make a significant difference with this kid.

[Eja117]

I'm seeing alot of hype around here and Celticslife over our current crop of bigs and i just don't get it.

Before i move forward allow me to say that i think Sullinger has a very high ceiling. Dude could be an All-Star and i wouldn't be surprised at all. He has all the makings of a 20/10 guy. Look at his per 36 and advanced numbers. He might even be the best player on this team not named Rondo.


Moving on to Kelly O, the dude just doesn't not improve me.  I see some skills and intelligence, but nothing in brillant flashes like we saw from Sully last season.

 His body is weak and his shot looks vastly overrated. He almost never shoots after catching the ball, always does a stupid pump fake before missing or turning it over. Dude can only break double digits with starter minutes on a good night.  Sully was doing it off the bench last season. That's the real kicker. Sully is better than Kelly off the bench!!! Should tell you something.


I'm not a huge Hump fan, but i'd much rather watch him over this kid. Kelly O could definitely get his body in shape and be a [dang] good NBA player, but he'll never be anything special imo. Not like Sullinger.


My thing is i want Sullinger as my ZBO PF to go along with a Marc Gasol- Roy Hibbert type center. That is a winning combo. Kelly O just isn't starting material in a league with monsters he can't physically match up with.


Moving on to Vitor!

I like this dude alot. He can do a little bit of everything and pretty [dang] well for a rookie who was never drafted. I think he's definitely a keeper, but as a backup center. Dude has no potential as a starter, if so he would've been drafted, and we've all seen how he looks when matched up with elite NBA bigs.


/rant

thoughts?

I'm going to go with .....yes...you are the only one who doesn't see anything in him

[winsomme]

I think the pie in the sky hope for KO is Dirk. This led me to thinking about how exactly to compare the two. I mean, KO has a lot of "niftiness" to his game. He can handle the basketball due to his PG days, and he seems to have a nose for the ball. His shooting is probably the biggest point of departure from Dirk and also he seems to "lumber" a bit moving up and down the court.

All this led me to wonder what exactly Dirk looked like early in his career. I mean, he certainly wasn't the offensive player he became at his peak coming right into the league. Or was he?
This video is a nice little snapshot of Dirk from the 2000 rookie all star game (Dirk's sophomore year), and I think it shows a couple of things. Dirk is definitely longer than KO and has a bit more spring in his step. Other than that, they look fairly similar out there with their dipsy-doos. The biggest thing KO is going to need to develop IMO to turn into a quality starter is a clear, consistent offensive game. That's where Dirk has made his bones in the NBA. He became a lethal scorer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eo_7LUIFBzY