Am i the only one who just doesn't see anything in KO?

[Sketch5]

Didn't it take Sully a couple months to play really well, and right when he was hitting his stride he goes down.

KO's biggest issue is the growth that he had a few years back. He's still learning the bigmans game. And were Sully has always been some what under sized KO is now playing with guys as big or bigger, and a lot faster.

His faults so far has been not shooting when he gets it. He's almost always open at the elbow. And he gets in foul trouble, so he has no chance in getting into a good flow.

He hit some really key shots in the Miami game. Once he learns were he can get his shots and has a string of games hitting them he should have a turnaround.

Now I don't think he'll be a All Star, but he'll be a really solid big man. 

[Tr1boy]

Olynyk is overwhelmed and showing too much respect for players on the team and around the league.  This kind of crap is natural to happen if you have "vets" ordering you around to carry their bags,get dinner etc. (my guess)

In addition not playing with a natural pg is hurting his game.

The SL Olynyk is the real version. He has lots of ways to get buckets in. Right now he is stuck into taking jump shots , passing the ball, playing 90 percent of the time in the perimeter which is only 40 percent of his game

You need to feed him the ball into the post. He needs to also take his time and play "one on one" ball.  Sully is obviously now comfortable doing it but Olynyk either is not or has been instructed not to

I predict lots of up and downs this year (last 2 games being down). As the season goes along he will get better plus once the off season somes (knowing what he did in his redshirt year) i expect him to coming into camp in exceptional shape.

[2short]

Fav puts up better numbers, humphries should be doing lots more.  Team seems to play better when Kelly is in.  He passes very well, rotates on defense and sets good picks.
I see him as a good career backup.  Can't think of his name right now, pacer big from 80's  think he came out of Minnesota after mchale...?

[Celtics4ever]

At least give him credit for being a good passer.   He is that certainly, if your not seeing that your not watching the games, period.

[Eddie20]

Let's not forget that he is still only 22 and sat out the entire 11-12 season. So since 2011 he has only played a total of 42 games (32 collegiately/10 professionally). The skill-set is definitely there and he'll get physically stronger.

[SHAQATTACK]

He is a great young talent.   Very pleased ......totally disagree with OP, but that's fine , he is entitled to his opinions. Too .

He is doing fine for a rookie ., on a rebuilding team, with no KG and a new coach . Trying to learn defenses, playing two positions ,  pressure etc.....looks fine .

I think he is making fine progress .   Very pleased.     We can develop him, we are going to lose most games Anyway .......so we develop players and get a nice draft pick

[makaveli]

tons of potential, his defense is obviously a big hole in his game, but give him a year or two. Looking forward seeing him play with Rondo

[coco]

I think he regressed a bit.  Not sure why that is.  Hard to get into a rythm when you are in foul trouble most of the time I guess.   He really needs to stop making stupid fouls in the perimeter.

As for his offense, our guards can't pass the ball too well, and so they are not even looking for him... So as they say,  that is that.

[billysan]

Fav puts up better numbers, humphries should be doing lots more.  Team seems to play better when Kelly is in.  He passes very well, rotates on defense and sets good picks.
I see him as a good career backup.  Can't think of his name right now, pacer big from 80's  think he came out of Minnesota after mchale...?

Maybe Rik Smits? a 7 footer with the Pacers who lasted into the Reggie era.

I think the key with Kelly Olynyk now is to find out what kind of big he is going to be and utilize him. He clearly isnt going to be a bruiser in the post but more of a finesse player. I dont mean to say he isnt tough, because I think he is willing to mix it up when he needs to.

I think he will be an effective all around shooter going forward but one who runs the floor better than most bigs. Not to say he has no post moves, because he does. I think a lot like Bosh offensively but without the athleticism and defensive ability.

Kelly will definitely need a few pounds of muscle to stay on the court when he needs to play post defense. If not, his minutes will be cut and his role will be more of a perimeter player. If this happens he will have to be a lights out shooter to get any playing time at all.

I think he has the potential to be a very accomplished big man who will be able to start in this league if he continues to improve offensively and can average at least 7-8 rebounds per game as a PF-C. He can already pass and score.

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

Well, he was the 13th pick in a relatively weak draft, so I'm not sure why anyone expected him to set the league on fire.

But I like him. He's got a lot to learn, but he has lots of potential to be a solid, if unspectacular, NBA rotation player. And he's only 10 games into his career. Give him some time.

[Tr1boy]

I think he regressed a bit.  Not sure why that is.  Hard to get into a rythm when you are in foul trouble most of the time I guess.   He really needs to stop making stupid fouls in the perimeter.

As for his offense, our guards can't pass the ball too well, and so they are not even looking for him... So as they say,  that is that.

good points. He needs to learn how to let up on plays and avoid that 1 or 2 fouls before the half. Just move your feet and get into good position

On the offensive end, he is getting no passes outside of getting it on top of the three pt line. And thats too bad bc he has great hands to catch difficult lobs

[hwangjini_1]

well, just for the heck of it, let's introduce a few stats into this discussion. it might help us all assess KO a bit better, or at least differently.

here are the stats for KO in his first 10 nba games. sss caveat applies to say the least.

minutes = 23/game
fg% = 41.3%
rb = 5.6
asst = 1.8
pts = 8

here are the stats for sully's entire rookie season.

minutes = 19.5/game
fg% = 49.3%
rb =  5.9
asst = 0.8
pts = 6

not dramatically different are they, given that this is an itty bitty sss for KO?

the biggest difference is in fg%. but keep in mind that sully last year worked very close to the basket. KO in his 10 games has taken more outside shots than sully, which is part of his game. this might explain that difference.

KO had his worst games early on, which is not a surprise. he has improved in the last few games. i take this as a positive sign that his stats may very well raise and improve over the course of an entire season.

my conclusion? let's not make too profound a set of judgements on KO just yet. but from what little info we have, he looks fine so far on offense.

on defense? he is pretty much as advertised....not athletic enough to guard the super stars of the nba, but capable of providing solid, adequate, maybe even average team defense.

[Snakehead]

I think he regressed a bit.  Not sure why that is.  Hard to get into a rythm when you are in foul trouble most of the time I guess.   He really needs to stop making stupid fouls in the perimeter.

As for his offense, our guards can't pass the ball too well, and so they are not even looking for him... So as they say,  that is that.

We are talking about regression for a rookie extremely early in the season?

I think we all need to relax a bit.

[slamtheking]

I think KO has some nice skills for a rookie big.  He's shown excellent passing skills.  He seems to have a high BBIQ, particularly on offense.  He's got good hands to catch passes and knows how to score around the basket.   Once he gets his shot going, I think he'll be a very good player for us over time.

I like both him and Sully but with both playing the same position, I think one becomes trade bait when Danny is ready to make moves to improve the team.  I think KO is the one that's traded and Sully stays.

[coco]

I hate to lose by 20 with Bass on the floor.