Wallace sounds off again. Does he have a point?

[Chris]

Maybe he should have showed up a little earlier in the summer to help Coach Stevens see what he has.

I like the fire Wallace plays with, but he needs to shut up, now. 

[Roy H.]

It's time for him to shut up.

This is your solution?!

My solution for what?

For Wallace making himself a distraction rather than a leader?  Yes.

[sed522002]

I don't see a problem.  Wallace isn't complaining.  He seems to be answering a direct question about the difficulty of being traded.  Here are more of his comments:

“Yeah, I think so,” he said. “I think the main thing is trying to help the guys and get them to understand the situation we’re in, what’s at hand for us and what it’s going to take for us to win in this league. I was told when I came here to be more of a leader. I can understand that, but my personality . . . I’m not an outspoken, outgoing, in-your-face kind of player. I kind of lead by example out on the court, going out and giving my all. I try to push my teammates to compete at the same level that I compete at. That’s the type of leadership I’ve always given and always done. Being in this situation is new for me in trying to be vocal and trying to speak to guys. I’m trying to do that to the best of my ability, but I’m still trying to see how to approach guys.

....

“The problem is trying to figure out my role within the team and the situation that I’m called for,” he said. “Last year I had trouble with that in Brooklyn, trying to figure out what was expected of me within the team. Now I come here and pretty much everybody’s looking to see what their role is going to work out to be, what style of play we want, what kind of team we want to be. And when you’re in a situation like that, for me, it’s very difficult at this point in my career.

If Wallace speaks out, it seems to be because he thinks that's what the coaches/management want him to do.  Is it a good idea to ask him to take on a leadership role of pushing his teammates to play with the same defensive intensity?

The coaches have also told him to tone it down. I think initially they wanted him to come in and be a vocal guy since he's been through it before, but I don't think they realized that he would be so open to everyone (media) about everything.

[Roy H.]

I don't see a problem.  Wallace isn't complaining.  He seems to be answering a direct question about the difficulty of being traded.  Here are more of his comments:

“Yeah, I think so,” he said. “I think the main thing is trying to help the guys and get them to understand the situation we’re in, what’s at hand for us and what it’s going to take for us to win in this league. I was told when I came here to be more of a leader. I can understand that, but my personality . . . I’m not an outspoken, outgoing, in-your-face kind of player. I kind of lead by example out on the court, going out and giving my all. I try to push my teammates to compete at the same level that I compete at. That’s the type of leadership I’ve always given and always done. Being in this situation is new for me in trying to be vocal and trying to speak to guys. I’m trying to do that to the best of my ability, but I’m still trying to see how to approach guys.

....

“The problem is trying to figure out my role within the team and the situation that I’m called for,” he said. “Last year I had trouble with that in Brooklyn, trying to figure out what was expected of me within the team. Now I come here and pretty much everybody’s looking to see what their role is going to work out to be, what style of play we want, what kind of team we want to be. And when you’re in a situation like that, for me, it’s very difficult at this point in my career.

If Wallace speaks out, it seems to be because he thinks that's what the coaches/management want him to do.  Is it a good idea to ask him to take on a leadership role of pushing his teammates to play with the same defensive intensity?

The coaches have also told him to tone it down. I think initially they wanted him to come in and be a vocal guy since he's been through it before, but I don't think they realized that he would be so open to everyone (media) about everything.

Yeah.  I can't recall any Celtic "leading" through the media so early and so often.

[BleedGreen1989]

I don't see a problem.  Wallace isn't complaining.  He seems to be answering a direct question about the difficulty of being traded.  Here are more of his comments:

“Yeah, I think so,” he said. “I think the main thing is trying to help the guys and get them to understand the situation we’re in, what’s at hand for us and what it’s going to take for us to win in this league. I was told when I came here to be more of a leader. I can understand that, but my personality . . . I’m not an outspoken, outgoing, in-your-face kind of player. I kind of lead by example out on the court, going out and giving my all. I try to push my teammates to compete at the same level that I compete at. That’s the type of leadership I’ve always given and always done. Being in this situation is new for me in trying to be vocal and trying to speak to guys. I’m trying to do that to the best of my ability, but I’m still trying to see how to approach guys.

....

“The problem is trying to figure out my role within the team and the situation that I’m called for,” he said. “Last year I had trouble with that in Brooklyn, trying to figure out what was expected of me within the team. Now I come here and pretty much everybody’s looking to see what their role is going to work out to be, what style of play we want, what kind of team we want to be. And when you’re in a situation like that, for me, it’s very difficult at this point in my career.

If Wallace speaks out, it seems to be because he thinks that's what the coaches/management want him to do.  Is it a good idea to ask him to take on a leadership role of pushing his teammates to play with the same defensive intensity?

The coaches have also told him to tone it down. I think initially they wanted him to come in and be a vocal guy since he's been through it before, but I don't think they realized that he would be so open to everyone (media) about everything.

Yeah.  I can't recall any Celtic "leading" through the media so early and so often.

It seems to me that Wallace quotes are the only ones getting the headlines. Is it that he's the only one talking, or the media is putting his quotes out there to stir stuff up during a rather dismal season?

[Snakehead]

I don't see a problem.  Wallace isn't complaining.  He seems to be answering a direct question about the difficulty of being traded.  Here are more of his comments:

“Yeah, I think so,” he said. “I think the main thing is trying to help the guys and get them to understand the situation we’re in, what’s at hand for us and what it’s going to take for us to win in this league. I was told when I came here to be more of a leader. I can understand that, but my personality . . . I’m not an outspoken, outgoing, in-your-face kind of player. I kind of lead by example out on the court, going out and giving my all. I try to push my teammates to compete at the same level that I compete at. That’s the type of leadership I’ve always given and always done. Being in this situation is new for me in trying to be vocal and trying to speak to guys. I’m trying to do that to the best of my ability, but I’m still trying to see how to approach guys.

....

“The problem is trying to figure out my role within the team and the situation that I’m called for,” he said. “Last year I had trouble with that in Brooklyn, trying to figure out what was expected of me within the team. Now I come here and pretty much everybody’s looking to see what their role is going to work out to be, what style of play we want, what kind of team we want to be. And when you’re in a situation like that, for me, it’s very difficult at this point in my career.

If Wallace speaks out, it seems to be because he thinks that's what the coaches/management want him to do.  Is it a good idea to ask him to take on a leadership role of pushing his teammates to play with the same defensive intensity?

The coaches have also told him to tone it down. I think initially they wanted him to come in and be a vocal guy since he's been through it before, but I don't think they realized that he would be so open to everyone (media) about everything.

Yeah.  I can't recall any Celtic "leading" through the media so early and so often.

And another key is talking about "they".  He doesn't even include himself in the team when he talks about this.  Usually when someone would do this, they would at least say "we". "We" need to play harder, "we" need to limit turnovers.  Players who are good leaders, even if they played well and weren't the issue, do this. It seriously sounds awful.

I'm a Colts fan and against Houston when Andrew Luck is getting lit up by the Houston D because his line can't block JJ Watt for 1 second in the first half, he doesn't call out his line.  He says "We" were getting our butts kicked, not executing, whatever.

Like Bill Simmons said, Wallace thinks he's more than 200 percent better than he is.  He plays hard but he hardly produces anything.

TP to you Roy because you couldn't be more right.  Just shut up Wallace.

[D.o.s.]

I don't see a problem.  Wallace isn't complaining.  He seems to be answering a direct question about the difficulty of being traded.  Here are more of his comments:

“Yeah, I think so,” he said. “I think the main thing is trying to help the guys and get them to understand the situation we’re in, what’s at hand for us and what it’s going to take for us to win in this league. I was told when I came here to be more of a leader. I can understand that, but my personality . . . I’m not an outspoken, outgoing, in-your-face kind of player. I kind of lead by example out on the court, going out and giving my all. I try to push my teammates to compete at the same level that I compete at. That’s the type of leadership I’ve always given and always done. Being in this situation is new for me in trying to be vocal and trying to speak to guys. I’m trying to do that to the best of my ability, but I’m still trying to see how to approach guys.

....

“The problem is trying to figure out my role within the team and the situation that I’m called for,” he said. “Last year I had trouble with that in Brooklyn, trying to figure out what was expected of me within the team. Now I come here and pretty much everybody’s looking to see what their role is going to work out to be, what style of play we want, what kind of team we want to be. And when you’re in a situation like that, for me, it’s very difficult at this point in my career.

If Wallace speaks out, it seems to be because he thinks that's what the coaches/management want him to do.  Is it a good idea to ask him to take on a leadership role of pushing his teammates to play with the same defensive intensity?

The coaches have also told him to tone it down. I think initially they wanted him to come in and be a vocal guy since he's been through it before, but I don't think they realized that he would be so open to everyone (media) about everything.

But that's always been Wallace's thing--he's always been candid.

The other thing to pay attention to, as LC said, is that he's answering a specific question. I know a lot of CB posters are probably used to Bellicheck-ian "don't say anything to anyone ever under any circumstances," responses from athletes, but when these guys are stuck doing the mandatory pre-game/post-game press conferences and they're asked questions, they're under a fiscal obligation to answer them--if you bail on that, you get fined.

I will say, though, that when you take it out of context, it sounds a dude griping to anyone who will listen. I'm not sure that's an accurate way to describe the situation.

[badshar]

he bette look in the mirror himself..he is not actually tearing up the boxscore himself

Stats have absolutely NOTHING to do with your effort. Crawford could ballhog and drop 30 points. That doesn't mean he put a lot of effort and tried his hardest. It means that he decided to play "hero-ball" and become selfish by caring about his own stats.

Wallace might be the only consistent and hard-working player on this team.

Measuring someone's effort and performance by looking at the box score is the most pathetic way to try to understand what they bring to the team.

[badshar]

Wow the guy playing 37 minutes and scoring 0 points is the one criticizing all the time.

Because stats are a great way to measure someone's hard work and effort, right?

[D.o.s.]

Since the lede from that article is missing from the original post, I'm guessing most people haven't looked at it.

Gerald Wallace isn’t complaining. He isn’t offering a tale of woe. Let’s get that part straight.

The NBA veteran is simply admitting the obvious in response to direct questions and looking for ways to make things better in what is now a very trying and fluid situation with a Celtics team in makeover mode.

[Fafnir]

He's answering a specific question with gripes. He's had multiple statements about his frustration, he's choosing to complain via the media. Now we all understand that his complaints have merit, that doesn't mean they need to be aired constantly.

Since he's complained in the media before, he's going to get future questions along these lines.

[Fafnir]

he bette look in the mirror himself..he is not actually tearing up the boxscore himself

Stats have absolutely NOTHING to do with your effort. Crawford could ballhog and drop 30 points. That doesn't mean he put a lot of effort and tried his hardest. It means that he decided to play "hero-ball" and become selfish by caring about his own stats.

Wallace might be the only consistent and hard-working player on this team.

Measuring someone's effort and performance by looking at the box score is the most pathetic way to try to understand what they bring to the team.

Honestly, there is absolutely no way that the game plan calls for him to take 1 shot or less in 37 minutes of playing time.

You can make all the "hustle" plays you want, but he's also not trying to be a part of the offense. Same issues he had in BKN at times, and if people want to point that out that he doesn't have a ton of room to complain they're right.

[Fafnir]

Since the lede from that article is missing from the original post, I'm guessing most people haven't looked at it.

Gerald Wallace isn’t complaining. He isn’t offering a tale of woe. Let’s get that part straight.

The NBA veteran is simply admitting the obvious in response to direct questions and looking for ways to make things better in what is now a very trying and fluid situation with a Celtics team in makeover mode.

Writers love guys like Wallace.

[VitorSullyandKOFan]

If he hates losing he should help the C's and agree to a buyout and he can go to a contending team.

[Snakehead]

he bette look in the mirror himself..he is not actually tearing up the boxscore himself

Stats have absolutely NOTHING to do with your effort. Crawford could ballhog and drop 30 points. That doesn't mean he put a lot of effort and tried his hardest. It means that he decided to play "hero-ball" and become selfish by caring about his own stats.

Wallace might be the only consistent and hard-working player on this team.

Measuring someone's effort and performance by looking at the box score is the most pathetic way to try to understand what they bring to the team.

This really isn't true!

Obviously the box score is not everything.  Of course it isn't.  I love guys who aren't playing just for stats and do the little thing.  But why are stats there?  To measure performance.  When Chris Paul puts up 16 assists the other day, yes his stats look good, but they are just a reflection of how his passing dominated the game.

When Wallace is putting up zeros in a numbers of categories, it's a reflection of his game.  He just doesn't bring much.  On a team that needs scoring he can't score.  On a team that needs rebounding he can't rebound.

Playing hard is all well and good.  I love it.  But you know, they could hire me and I'd play harder out there than anyone for them.  But I'd still suck because I wouldn't be able to score, I wouldn't be able to rebound.  So who cares?  Production matters.