Seriously...we aren't the worst team in the leauge.

[TwinTower14]

the beauty of this draft is that it's just not Wiggins!  They are 6-7 guys that can drastically change the direction of a franchise....

[gpap]

I disagree.

I think the Celtics, DA and Stevens are ALL IN on "tanking for Wiggins."

Think about it….

-Stevens doesn't play Humph ( I know this point is debatable because most think Bass is better but I believe BS is not playing Humph cuz doesn't want us to win, IMO.)

-Jeff Green sits entire 4th quarter vs Detroit

-Gerald Wallace doesn't play the 4th quarter yesterday because of a sudden "knee injury."

-Rondo still on the bench, while Westbrook (who injured his knee 3 months after Rondo) is already back.

At first I didn't want to believe it….but now I think it's the case and I've almost sorta resigned myself to it: The Celts are playing "ping pong" this year, instead of basketball.

Here's my feelings: If we get Wiggins, it was worth it.

If we draft another player who doesn't pan out, Ainge will have some 'splanin to do.

I still refuse to be on the tanking bandwagon...I rather see us play hard and lose than the "play hard, then lose the game so we get a higher pick" theory.

If we do get Wiggins, sure, but what if we don't?? Is DA going to make a repeat of 2007, and trade our picks and assets (not name Rondo)??

I am not on the tanking bandwagon either. But after watching the first four games, I've just come to accept the reality of the situation.

I totally agree with you on playing hard and trying to win games (you know, the object of the game.)

I've just come to realize that I think this is the direction the team is going in. Trust me, if I ran the team, we wouldn't even be having these discussions, but I don't.

If I were running the team, I would've brought back Pierce/KG and added another big name FA like Josh Smith, Al Jefferson or Paul Millsap.

We'd be talking about playoffs instead of Wiggins.

[TwinTower14]

just curious on how you would have done that with the salary cap restrictions?

[Snakehead]

-Gerald Wallace doesn't play the 4th quarter yesterday because of a sudden "knee injury."

No offense but really don't know if you've been watching if you think this is negative.

Wallace has been so terrible for us. He is entirely a non factor. We were starting to flounder in the 2nd half vs Memphis and once he went out we got back into the game.

[TwinTower14]

I am actually blown away with how bad Gerald Wallace is....

[danglertx]

I am actually blown away with how bad Gerald Wallace is....

Couldn't agree more.  And I've been equally blown away by how good Vitor, Sully, and Olynyk have been.

[TwinTower14]

Right....too bad Vitor couldn't have played next to KG last year...

[LooseCannon]

Right....too bad Vitor couldn't have played next to KG last year...

Imagine no trade, Rondo being healthy, signing a veteran point guard like Beno Udrih for the minimum to back him up, still trading up to get Olynyk, still dumping Fab, and using the mini-MLE to sign Faverani.

[RJ87]

Rondo isn't going to make a huge difference - when he comes back, he's likely going to be on strict minutes limitation. He's also going to be rusty. By the time he starts making a significant impact, our season will just about be over.

[TwinTower14]

I agree with you....we also have to take into account that Rondo is going to be on the floor with no HOF'ers....first time in a long time....

[jakeshaffer]

How many draft picks will we have this year?

[D.o.s.]

Right....too bad Vitor couldn't have played next to KG last year...

Imagine no trade, Rondo being healthy, signing a veteran point guard like Beno Udrih for the minimum to back him up, still trading up to get Olynyk, still dumping Fab, and using the mini-MLE to sign Faverani.

I don't know if that gets around the problem of having Pierce and KG still being your two best players, though.

[TwinTower14]

you are right...

[Interceptor]

How many draft picks will we have this year?

Our own plus the less favorable of Atlanta/Brooklyn (Atlanta has swap rights) in the first round.

We don't have a second-rounder IIRC, traded it to get Olynyk.

[Vermont Green]

the beauty of this draft is that it's just not Wiggins!  They are 6-7 guys that can drastically change the direction of a franchise....

I don't believe that we are that good of a team so I think the tank/don't tank thing will take care of itself.

Banking on drafting to reconstruct your team though is always a risky proposition.  The past is littered with can't miss players who miss (and  that was back when you mostly drafted seniors).  At best there is an element of chance with drafting and I don't just mean the ping pong balls. 

At this point, we don't have a whole lot of choice, we are going to be bad (but probably not the worst) and we are going to have to take our chances with the draft.  What is in our favor is that we have multiple draft picks most years so we are going to get a few shots at it.

I am not necessarily happy with the fact that we are going to be counting on the draft to get good again but what can you do?