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Re: Why didn't Stevens play Humphries tonight?
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2013, 09:29:21 PM »

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He hasn't played the last two games after looking good in the first.

Green didn't play much the last couple game either. Not much at all in the 3rd game. Sully didn't play much either, but he didn't play that well tonight and KO was better.

Either both are getting shipped soon and they don't want to risk injury.

Or they are show casing guys like Bass, Lee,Crawford,KO,Wallace. Even Brooks played. I have a feeling some one is heading out of town soon.

Re: Why didn't Stevens play Humphries tonight?
« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2013, 09:35:08 PM »

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Humphries has no future with the Celtics.  He is basically money they are waiting to disappear sitting on the bench.


Meanwhile, they have Bass and three young big men they want to get experience in this down year.

This.

Also, Bass needs to play because he is a legit trade chip that could get a nice return for us.

I actually like how Hump has played when he has but unfortunately for him we have young bigs we need to develop.


Humphries has no future with the Celtics.  He is basically money they are waiting to disappear sitting on the bench.


Meanwhile, they have Bass and three young big men they want to get experience in this down year.

AND now I am even more dumbfounded.

Number one, Bass sucks. Number two, why would you let a 12 million dollar expiring contract just "disappear"?

Why wouldn't you at the very least showcase Humph to get some value for him at the deadline? I thought expiring contracts were suppose to be like gold in the NBA.

1) Bass is good.  Saying he sucks throws away all your validity.

2) No one wants Hump at 12 million as a player.  They might, might, as a contract and that's it.

3) Bass at about 6.5 is a player that can help a contending team.  He has value and should be playing anyways, because yes, he is good and does NOT suck.

I think we are differing on our interpretation of "value."

It appears everyone is looking at Bass as a solid role player which in turn equals alleged value. That may be.

However, this team is already full of role players. I am looking for someone who can be a difference maker under the glass right now and Brandon Bass is NOT that guy. Kris Humphries may not be either, but I believe Humphries can be a much bigger force in the paint than the undersized Bass.

Career Average numbers:

Brandon Bass - 8.5PPG, 4.6RPG, 0.7BPG
Kris Humphries - 6.6PPG, 5.5RPG, 0.6BPG

From those numbers, I conclude Bass is a slightly better scorer but Humphries is better at rebounding, which is our BIGGEST weakness right now.

Now as for which player could or would have more value on the trade market,  I am not so sure that Bass is the answer.

Re: Why didn't Stevens play Humphries tonight?
« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2013, 09:38:11 PM »

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Humphries has no future with the Celtics.  He is basically money they are waiting to disappear sitting on the bench.


Meanwhile, they have Bass and three young big men they want to get experience in this down year.

This.

Also, Bass needs to play because he is a legit trade chip that could get a nice return for us.

I actually like how Hump has played when he has but unfortunately for him we have young bigs we need to develop.


Humphries has no future with the Celtics.  He is basically money they are waiting to disappear sitting on the bench.


Meanwhile, they have Bass and three young big men they want to get experience in this down year.

AND now I am even more dumbfounded.

Number one, Bass sucks. Number two, why would you let a 12 million dollar expiring contract just "disappear"?

Why wouldn't you at the very least showcase Humph to get some value for him at the deadline? I thought expiring contracts were suppose to be like gold in the NBA.

1) Bass is good.  Saying he sucks throws away all your validity.

2) No one wants Hump at 12 million as a player.  They might, might, as a contract and that's it.

3) Bass at about 6.5 is a player that can help a contending team.  He has value and should be playing anyways, because yes, he is good and does NOT suck.

I think we are differing on our interpretation of "value."

It appears everyone is looking at Bass as a solid role player which in turn equals alleged value. That may be.

However, this team is already full of role players. I am looking for someone who can be a difference maker under the glass right now and Brandon Bass is NOT that guy. Kris Humphries may not be either, but I believe Humphries can be a much bigger force in the paint than the undersized Bass.

Career Average numbers:

Brandon Bass - 8.5PPG, 4.6RPG, 0.7BPG
Kris Humphries - 6.6PPG, 5.5RPG, 0.6BPG

From those numbers, I conclude Bass is a slightly better scorer but Humphries is better at rebounding, which is our BIGGEST weakness right now.

Now as for which player could or would have more value on the trade market,  I am not so sure that Bass is the answer.

Our biggest weakness is definitely scoring and offense.  Tonight vs Detroit if we could have just scored some baskets down the stretch we would have won.  If we could have scored in the half court vs the Bucks we would have won too.

If you think Hump has more trade value than Bass I really don't know what to say.  You are very off base.  Hump is very overpayed at 12 mill per year. Bass is absolutely not at 6.5.

Both players, for this team, are really trade chips.  Hump is entirely as an expiring contract, not as a player.  Therefore it is irrelevant if he plays.  Bass is as a player who can really help a lot of teams.

Nevermind the fact that Bass is just better.
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Re: Why didn't Stevens play Humphries tonight?
« Reply #18 on: November 03, 2013, 09:42:31 PM »

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Humphries has no future with the Celtics.  He is basically money they are waiting to disappear sitting on the bench.


Meanwhile, they have Bass and three young big men they want to get experience in this down year.

This.

Also, Bass needs to play because he is a legit trade chip that could get a nice return for us.

I actually like how Hump has played when he has but unfortunately for him we have young bigs we need to develop.


Humphries has no future with the Celtics.  He is basically money they are waiting to disappear sitting on the bench.


Meanwhile, they have Bass and three young big men they want to get experience in this down year.

AND now I am even more dumbfounded.

Number one, Bass sucks. Number two, why would you let a 12 million dollar expiring contract just "disappear"?

Why wouldn't you at the very least showcase Humph to get some value for him at the deadline? I thought expiring contracts were suppose to be like gold in the NBA.

1) Bass is good.  Saying he sucks throws away all your validity.

2) No one wants Hump at 12 million as a player.  They might, might, as a contract and that's it.

3) Bass at about 6.5 is a player that can help a contending team.  He has value and should be playing anyways, because yes, he is good and does NOT suck.

I think we are differing on our interpretation of "value."

It appears everyone is looking at Bass as a solid role player which in turn equals alleged value. That may be.

However, this team is already full of role players. I am looking for someone who can be a difference maker under the glass right now and Brandon Bass is NOT that guy. Kris Humphries may not be either, but I believe Humphries can be a much bigger force in the paint than the undersized Bass.

Career Average numbers:

Brandon Bass - 8.5PPG, 4.6RPG, 0.7BPG
Kris Humphries - 6.6PPG, 5.5RPG, 0.6BPG

From those numbers, I conclude Bass is a slightly better scorer but Humphries is better at rebounding, which is our BIGGEST weakness right now.

Now as for which player could or would have more value on the trade market,  I am not so sure that Bass is the answer.

Our biggest weakness is definitely scoring and offense.  Tonight vs Detroit if we could have just scored some baskets down the stretch we would have won.

If you think Hump has more trade value than Bass I really don't know what to say.  You are very off base.  Hump is very overpayed at 12 mill per year. Bass is absolutely not at 6.5.

Both players, for this team, are really trade chips.  Hump is entirely as an expiring contract, not as a player.  Therefore it is irrelevant if he plays.  Bass is as a player who can really help a lot of teams.

Nevermind the fact that Bass is just better.

That may be.  I am not necessarily disagreeing who could fetch more on the trade market. All I am saying is I think right now playing Hump more could help this team out before they go 0-forever.

As for Bass, I guess my biggest issue with him is he's an undersized power forward who's height gets exposed in the paint.

Re: Why didn't Stevens play Humphries tonight?
« Reply #19 on: November 03, 2013, 09:44:10 PM »

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Call me naive, but I have trust in coach Stevens that he is basing his lineups and rotations on who he thinks will help win games, rather than on building trade values.

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C:    N. Vucevic/K. Olynyk/E. Davis/C. Jefferson

Re: Why didn't Stevens play Humphries tonight?
« Reply #20 on: November 03, 2013, 09:56:42 PM »

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We don't know. Outside of having only mediocre iq, he could of pizzed off Stevens or screwed up in practice

First decent offer the celts get for him, he is gone.

Other than that, if the celts keep losing and the season is finished, 2 weeks before the trade deadline, he will play alot and danny will trade him for worse case another expiring contract and at least a 2nd round pick

Re: Why didn't Stevens play Humphries tonight?
« Reply #21 on: November 03, 2013, 09:57:31 PM »

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Call me naive, but I have trust in coach Stevens that he is basing his lineups and rotations on who he thinks will help win games, rather than on building trade values.

I don't disagree because as I said I think Bass is better.  But the trade value discussion only tips it further in Bass' favor.

As I said, we need shooting and scoring and Bass provides that.
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