Simmons Trade Idea. Jeff Green

[Smittymks]

Bill Simmons and Jalen Rose NBA team by team preview on Espn.com is excellent. Today they featured the Houston Rockets. Bill had a trade idea of Jeff Green for Omer Asik.

Thoughts?

[indeedproceed]

I'd honestly kinda worry that it would make us 'too good'. Asik would make our defense 'spectable and could play next to either Hump, Sully or Olynyk. Don't want that.

[blink]

I liked the idea of getting Asik here when we still have KG/PP last year or the year before.  Not so much now...

[heitingas]

Why not ?

We need a C and Wallace has played alot better than Green, the latter has been invisible...

From Houstons POV, they need a stretch four that can shoot. And Harden might put in a word for jeff.

It gives the fulltime SF duties to Wallace and opens minutes for KO and Sully. It's either jeff or Wallace IMO, one has got to go 20 million the next 3 years each year for two SF's.

None of whom are great at anything in particular,BUT Wallace at least  leaves it all out on the floor!

[VitorSullyandKOFan]

No Asik will make 15 mill next year and if. Green has 2 good years he will decline his player option for 2015-2016.

[LooseCannon]

I've kicked around in my mind the idea of a mid-season trade involving Sullinger and the Rockets' choice between Green and Wallace for Asik, with Houston adding in some other stuff.

There might be better players available for Houston in February, though.

[Fan from VT]

Houston is an interesting trade partner for Boston (win now vs tank-suck).

I think for Green though Morey is too smart and values statistical value too much. He's not an upgrade at SF, and I think there's a lot of evidence that he's not great at PF. If it were a different GM, i could see them thinking Green would be like a ryan anderson type next to Howard, but I think Morey is smarter and doesn't want a league-average type production for 9+ per year when he already is at max for howard and harden.

[Fan from VT]

Judging from Morey, though, I would expect that rather than a 1-1 swap of Asik for equal salary/lesser talent (i.e. Asik for Green), he'd rather package Asik+YoungGuy+Pick to get a 3rd max/near max level star-superstar. I think he really values stars and is going for his own big three type situation.

[fairweatherfan]

Judging from Morey, though, I would expect that rather than a 1-1 swap of Asik for equal salary/lesser talent (i.e. Asik for Green), he'd rather package Asik+YoungGuy+Pick to get a 3rd max/near max level star-superstar. I think he really values stars and is going for his own big three type situation.

Asik+Parsons+Beverley+1st for Rondo + filler?  I'd probably take it if Houston would.

Overall, though, Asik isn't a gamechanger, we're very unlikely to contend by the end of his deal, bigs tend to get seriously overpaid in free agency, and S+Ts are much harder under the new CBA, so I'm not sure where the value is in just getting Asik here by himself.

[Who]

Houston is an interesting trade partner for Boston (win now vs tank-suck).

I think for Green though Morey is too smart and values statistical value too much. He's not an upgrade at SF, and I think there's a lot of evidence that he's not great at PF. If it were a different GM, i could see them thinking Green would be like a ryan anderson type next to Howard, but I think Morey is smarter and doesn't want a league-average type production for 9+ per year when he already is at max for howard and harden.

I would think Chandler Parsons would slide over to PF full time and Jeff Green would man the three. Parsons seems to be the more able defender + rebounder at the PF position.

Two forwards who can handle the ball, who can drive and finish at the rim, and, shoot from distance. That would be a dynamic offensive pairing. Like what Orlando had with Hedo Turkoglu and Rashard Lewis. Very difficult for opponents to matchup against.

Plus, you have James Harden's dribble drive threat at SG. And your PG. Nowhere to hide your big man defensively. Lots of dribble penetration and floor spacing. Imagine that 2009 Orlando team with James Harden on it. That would be have created an amazing offensive team.

[Who]

I'd honestly kinda worry that it would make us 'too good'. Asik would make our defense 'spectable and could play next to either Hump, Sully or Olynyk. Don't want that.

With Asik here, the Celtics could probably hustle their way to 45 wins ... well, with a full season of Rondo. So maybe closer to 37-41 wins with Rondo missing the first 20 games.

Fighting for the 8th seed. An 11th-15th place draft pick.

[green147]

I could see it happening at the deadline if the Celtics are doing horribly and targeting Parker, Wiggins or Gordon to be their SF of the future.

[BleedGreen1989]

I'd honestly kinda worry that it would make us 'too good'. Asik would make our defense 'spectable and could play next to either Hump, Sully or Olynyk. Don't want that.

With Asik here, the Celtics could probably hustle their way to 45 wins ... well, with a full season of Rondo. So maybe closer to 37-41 wins with Rondo missing the first 20 games.

Fighting for the 8th seed. An 11th-15th place draft pick.

Yup.

Exactly where I don't think any of us want to be. Asik is a fine player, but I don't like his fit with Boston's plans.

[Evantime34]

If we are trading Green I want young players with upside, picks or the shedding of long term salary in addition to Green. Asik is a complimentary piece which is not what we should be adding at this point.

[Fan from VT]

I think they'll go bigger or smaller (in terms of contract/impact) with the Asik deal, but less likely straight lateral.

Lateral moves I could see are like Asik for Ryan Andersen.

I could see GS doing well then Bogut getting injured then seeking a defensive big to keep things going and giving up Iguodala.

I could see Denver collapsing and taking Asik+Asset for Gallo+Faried or something.

What if Minnesota disappoints and Minny panics and doesn't want to lose Love for nothing (on that stupidly short extension they gave), so they give Asik+Jones+Picks for Love (Morey's dream, I'm sure).

Maybe the Blazer's don't live up to expectations, Aldridge says he's walking, so they deal him for Asik+assets to get something (Morey's other dream).

Would memphis try to cut costs, deal Randolph for Asik+Filler?

Or he could go smaller, like trying to get Mbah a moute and jason thompson from Sac.

Anyway, I think that's where Morey's sites are set.

And to get Rondo, I need a 1st and terence jones and Montejuenas or whatever, but I'm greedy.