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Offline rutzan

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Players to build a championship team around

1)Superstar

2)Borderline Superstar

Rondo

Is he "The Guy" to lead us to the "promised land"?  DA will probably have to be blown away to trade Rondo but you can bet he is listening and won't hesitate if he gets an offer he can't refuse...

3) All-Star

Green

Great athlete who falls a little short of being an All-Star.  Is he really a building block?  I like Green but i really think he is the 3rd best player on your team not the 2nd best and probably is overpaid to be the 3rd best player on your team...

4) Solid player

Bass

I like what Bass brings to the table but overpaid for a
re-build...Bass could fetch us something as shooting big men are always in demand and his defense is now almost considered elite if you look at the numbers thrown around...albeit with kg behind him...

Bradley

I think we have seen most of his upside though his jumper may improve and DA may let him walk...i hate to say it but AB is a bit of a one-trick pony...would be great on a contending team...not a re-build...

Olynyk

I hope he continues to surprise us

Sullinger

Probably our 2nd best player now after Rondo

5) Role player

Bogans

Great veteran presence but his $5M expiring contract makes him a trade candidate...can DA pull a rabbit out of his hat?

Brooks

Young scoring option off the bench

Crawford

Scoring option off the bench but his $2M contract means he will not be here for long

Faverani

2nd or 3rd string center at best but heck as they say you can't teach heighth and size...

Humphries

Will probably have solid number but not sure where he fits in and his $10M expiring contract makes him a trade candidate...can DA pull a rabbit out of his hat?

Pressey

2nd or 3rd string pg

Lee

Probably a little bit of a disappointment and prob makes too much to be traded

Wallace

Great intangibles and hustle but age not working in his favor and the $30M owed to him means he will be in Celtic green for a while




Offline LarBrd33

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Players to build a championship team around

1)Superstar

2)Borderline Superstar

Rondo

Is he "The Guy" to lead us to the "promised land"?  DA will probably have to be blown away to trade Rondo but you can bet he is listening and won't hesitate if he gets an offer he can't refuse...

3) All-Star

Green

Great athlete who falls a little short of being an All-Star.  Is he really a building block?  I like Green but i really think he is the 3rd best player on your team not the 2nd best and probably is overpaid to be the 3rd best player on your team...

4) Solid player

Bass

I like what Bass brings to the table but overpaid for a
re-build...Bass could fetch us something as shooting big men are always in demand and his defense is now almost considered elite if you look at the numbers thrown around...albeit with kg behind him...

Bradley

I think we have seen most of his upside though his jumper may improve and DA may let him walk...i hate to say it but AB is a bit of a one-trick pony...would be great on a contending team...not a re-build...

Olynyk

I hope he continues to surprise us

Sullinger

Probably our 2nd best player now after Rondo

5) Role player

Bogans

Great veteran presence but his $5M expiring contract makes him a trade candidate...can DA pull a rabbit out of his hat?

Brooks

Young scoring option off the bench

Crawford

Scoring option off the bench but his $2M contract means he will not be here for long

Faverani

2nd or 3rd string center at best but heck as they say you can't teach heighth and size...

Humphries

Will probably have solid number but not sure where he fits in and his $10M expiring contract makes him a trade candidate...can DA pull a rabbit out of his hat?

Pressey

2nd or 3rd string pg

Lee

Probably a little bit of a disappointment and prob makes too much to be traded

Wallace

Great intangibles and hustle but age not working in his favor and the $30M owed to him means he will be in Celtic green for a while

KNock most of them down a peg.  Rondo is an all-star at best.  Heading forward with the amount of guards in the league, he'll probably teeter around as a fringe all-star... if he recovers at all.

Green will never be an all-star.  He's a solid player.

Bass is a role player...arguably one with a bad contract.

Bradley is a role player if you ask me.  I think he's a long-term defensive specialist off the bench. 

Oly/Sully have potential to be starters some day, but I wouldn't be shocked to see both long-term role players off the bench.

Couple of the guys you have listed as role players belong in the d-league.  A couple more are bench warmers.  Hump and Wallace are probably accurately ranked as role players, though. 

This team is pretty devoid of talent.  Everyone is absolutely available.  The only "untouchable" trade asset on this team is our unprotected 2014 1st round pick.  Everything else can be had.  A few of them (Bass, Wallace, Lee) arguably have negative trade value due to their contracts. 

Offline rutzan

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Players to build a championship team around

1)Superstar

2)Borderline Superstar

Rondo

Is he "The Guy" to lead us to the "promised land"?  DA will probably have to be blown away to trade Rondo but you can bet he is listening and won't hesitate if he gets an offer he can't refuse...

3) All-Star

Green

Great athlete who falls a little short of being an All-Star.  Is he really a building block?  I like Green but i really think he is the 3rd best player on your team not the 2nd best and probably is overpaid to be the 3rd best player on your team...

4) Solid player

Bass

I like what Bass brings to the table but overpaid for a
re-build...Bass could fetch us something as shooting big men are always in demand and his defense is now almost considered elite if you look at the numbers thrown around...albeit with kg behind him...

Bradley

I think we have seen most of his upside though his jumper may improve and DA may let him walk...i hate to say it but AB is a bit of a one-trick pony...would be great on a contending team...not a re-build...

Olynyk

I hope he continues to surprise us

Sullinger

Probably our 2nd best player now after Rondo

5) Role player

Bogans

Great veteran presence but his $5M expiring contract makes him a trade candidate...can DA pull a rabbit out of his hat?

Brooks

Young scoring option off the bench

Crawford

Scoring option off the bench but his $2M contract means he will not be here for long

Faverani

2nd or 3rd string center at best but heck as they say you can't teach heighth and size...

Humphries

Will probably have solid number but not sure where he fits in and his $10M expiring contract makes him a trade candidate...can DA pull a rabbit out of his hat?

Pressey

2nd or 3rd string pg

Lee

Probably a little bit of a disappointment and prob makes too much to be traded

Wallace

Great intangibles and hustle but age not working in his favor and the $30M owed to him means he will be in Celtic green for a while

KNock most of them down a peg.  Rondo is an all-star at best.  Heading forward with the amount of guards in the league, he'll probably teeter around as a fringe all-star... if he recovers at all.

Green will never be an all-star.  He's a solid player.

Bass is a role player...arguably one with a bad contract.

Bradley is a role player if you ask me.  I think he's a long-term defensive specialist off the bench. 

Oly/Sully have potential to be starters some day, but I wouldn't be shocked to see both long-term role players off the bench.

Couple of the guys you have listed as role players belong in the d-league.  A couple more are bench warmers.  Hump and Wallace are probably accurately ranked as role players, though. 

This team is pretty devoid of talent.  Everyone is absolutely available.  The only "untouchable" trade asset on this team is our unprotected 2014 1st round pick.  Everything else can be had.  A few of them (Bass, Wallace, Lee) arguably have negative trade value due to their contracts.

i think health is the key with rondo...green teases you with all-star talent...i still put bass in as a solid player only because all the available defensive metrics out there for last year point to him being an elite defender...which was quite a surprise...will be interesting to see what he can do defensively without KG...i do think AB is kind of a one-trick pony on defense...

Offline dreamgreen

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Players to build a championship team around

1)Superstar

2)Borderline Superstar

Rondo

Is he "The Guy" to lead us to the "promised land"?  DA will probably have to be blown away to trade Rondo but you can bet he is listening and won't hesitate if he gets an offer he can't refuse...

3) All-Star

Green

Great athlete who falls a little short of being an All-Star.  Is he really a building block?  I like Green but i really think he is the 3rd best player on your team not the 2nd best and probably is overpaid to be the 3rd best player on your team...

4) Solid player

Bass

I like what Bass brings to the table but overpaid for a
re-build...Bass could fetch us something as shooting big men are always in demand and his defense is now almost considered elite if you look at the numbers thrown around...albeit with kg behind him...

Bradley

I think we have seen most of his upside though his jumper may improve and DA may let him walk...i hate to say it but AB is a bit of a one-trick pony...would be great on a contending team...not a re-build...

Olynyk

I hope he continues to surprise us

Sullinger

Probably our 2nd best player now after Rondo

5) Role player

Bogans

Great veteran presence but his $5M expiring contract makes him a trade candidate...can DA pull a rabbit out of his hat?

Brooks

Young scoring option off the bench

Crawford

Scoring option off the bench but his $2M contract means he will not be here for long

Faverani

2nd or 3rd string center at best but heck as they say you can't teach heighth and size...

Humphries

Will probably have solid number but not sure where he fits in and his $10M expiring contract makes him a trade candidate...can DA pull a rabbit out of his hat?

Pressey

2nd or 3rd string pg

Lee

Probably a little bit of a disappointment and prob makes too much to be traded

Wallace

Great intangibles and hustle but age not working in his favor and the $30M owed to him means he will be in Celtic green for a while

KNock most of them down a peg.  Rondo is an all-star at best.  Heading forward with the amount of guards in the league, he'll probably teeter around as a fringe all-star... if he recovers at all.

Green will never be an all-star.  He's a solid player.

Bass is a role player...arguably one with a bad contract.

Bradley is a role player if you ask me.  I think he's a long-term defensive specialist off the bench. 

Oly/Sully have potential to be starters some day, but I wouldn't be shocked to see both long-term role players off the bench.

Couple of the guys you have listed as role players belong in the d-league.  A couple more are bench warmers.  Hump and Wallace are probably accurately ranked as role players, though. 

This team is pretty devoid of talent.  Everyone is absolutely available.  The only "untouchable" trade asset on this team is our unprotected 2014 1st round pick.  Everything else can be had.  A few of them (Bass, Wallace, Lee) arguably have negative trade value due to their contracts.

I'm just confused what people want from Rondo? He's not going to ever lead the league in scoring just get over that. But he can average a triple-double in a playoff series! Only in Boston Rondo is not a star, in every other city he is FYI.

Offline tyrone biggums

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Players to build a championship team around

1)Superstar

2)Borderline Superstar

Rondo

Is he "The Guy" to lead us to the "promised land"?  DA will probably have to be blown away to trade Rondo but you can bet he is listening and won't hesitate if he gets an offer he can't refuse...

3) All-Star

Green

Great athlete who falls a little short of being an All-Star.  Is he really a building block?  I like Green but i really think he is the 3rd best player on your team not the 2nd best and probably is overpaid to be the 3rd best player on your team...

4) Solid player

Bass

I like what Bass brings to the table but overpaid for a
re-build...Bass could fetch us something as shooting big men are always in demand and his defense is now almost considered elite if you look at the numbers thrown around...albeit with kg behind him...

Bradley

I think we have seen most of his upside though his jumper may improve and DA may let him walk...i hate to say it but AB is a bit of a one-trick pony...would be great on a contending team...not a re-build...

Olynyk

I hope he continues to surprise us

Sullinger

Probably our 2nd best player now after Rondo

5) Role player

Bogans

Great veteran presence but his $5M expiring contract makes him a trade candidate...can DA pull a rabbit out of his hat?

Brooks

Young scoring option off the bench

Crawford

Scoring option off the bench but his $2M contract means he will not be here for long

Faverani

2nd or 3rd string center at best but heck as they say you can't teach heighth and size...

Humphries

Will probably have solid number but not sure where he fits in and his $10M expiring contract makes him a trade candidate...can DA pull a rabbit out of his hat?

Pressey

2nd or 3rd string pg

Lee

Probably a little bit of a disappointment and prob makes too much to be traded

Wallace

Great intangibles and hustle but age not working in his favor and the $30M owed to him means he will be in Celtic green for a while

KNock most of them down a peg.  Rondo is an all-star at best.  Heading forward with the amount of guards in the league, he'll probably teeter around as a fringe all-star... if he recovers at all.

Green will never be an all-star.  He's a solid player.

Bass is a role player...arguably one with a bad contract.

Bradley is a role player if you ask me.  I think he's a long-term defensive specialist off the bench. 

Oly/Sully have potential to be starters some day, but I wouldn't be shocked to see both long-term role players off the bench.

Couple of the guys you have listed as role players belong in the d-league.  A couple more are bench warmers.  Hump and Wallace are probably accurately ranked as role players, though. 

This team is pretty devoid of talent.  Everyone is absolutely available.  The only "untouchable" trade asset on this team is our unprotected 2014 1st round pick.  Everything else can be had.  A few of them (Bass, Wallace, Lee) arguably have negative trade value due to their contracts.

I'm just confused what people want from Rondo? He's not going to ever lead the league in scoring just get over that. But he can average a triple-double in a playoff series! Only in Boston Rondo is not a star, in every other city he is FYI.

It's simple. Boston hates super star players. This is a blue collar type of market. Rondo is not a dirt dog he's a diva. Which means that we would rather have Phil Pressey playing PG the next few years than Rondo. He has also reached most of his potential. Potential ball has driven this fan base for years. People wanted to cut KG at one point on this board so that they could rebuild quicker. A handful of posters go as far as to regret that trade because Big Al and GMoney left.

Offline PierceMVP08

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Players to build a championship team around

1)Superstar

2)Borderline Superstar

Rondo

Is he "The Guy" to lead us to the "promised land"?  DA will probably have to be blown away to trade Rondo but you can bet he is listening and won't hesitate if he gets an offer he can't refuse...

3) All-Star

Green

Great athlete who falls a little short of being an All-Star.  Is he really a building block?  I like Green but i really think he is the 3rd best player on your team not the 2nd best and probably is overpaid to be the 3rd best player on your team...

4) Solid player

Bass

I like what Bass brings to the table but overpaid for a
re-build...Bass could fetch us something as shooting big men are always in demand and his defense is now almost considered elite if you look at the numbers thrown around...albeit with kg behind him...

Bradley

I think we have seen most of his upside though his jumper may improve and DA may let him walk...i hate to say it but AB is a bit of a one-trick pony...would be great on a contending team...not a re-build...

Olynyk

I hope he continues to surprise us

Sullinger

Probably our 2nd best player now after Rondo

5) Role player

Bogans

Great veteran presence but his $5M expiring contract makes him a trade candidate...can DA pull a rabbit out of his hat?

Brooks

Young scoring option off the bench

Crawford

Scoring option off the bench but his $2M contract means he will not be here for long

Faverani

2nd or 3rd string center at best but heck as they say you can't teach heighth and size...

Humphries

Will probably have solid number but not sure where he fits in and his $10M expiring contract makes him a trade candidate...can DA pull a rabbit out of his hat?

Pressey

2nd or 3rd string pg

Lee

Probably a little bit of a disappointment and prob makes too much to be traded

Wallace

Great intangibles and hustle but age not working in his favor and the $30M owed to him means he will be in Celtic green for a while

KNock most of them down a peg.  Rondo is an all-star at best.  Heading forward with the amount of guards in the league, he'll probably teeter around as a fringe all-star... if he recovers at all.

Green will never be an all-star.  He's a solid player.

Bass is a role player...arguably one with a bad contract.

Bradley is a role player if you ask me.  I think he's a long-term defensive specialist off the bench. 

Oly/Sully have potential to be starters some day, but I wouldn't be shocked to see both long-term role players off the bench.

Couple of the guys you have listed as role players belong in the d-league.  A couple more are bench warmers.  Hump and Wallace are probably accurately ranked as role players, though. 

This team is pretty devoid of talent.  Everyone is absolutely available.  The only "untouchable" trade asset on this team is our unprotected 2014 1st round pick.  Everything else can be had.  A few of them (Bass, Wallace, Lee) arguably have negative trade value due to their contracts.

I'm just confused what people want from Rondo? He's not going to ever lead the league in scoring just get over that. But he can average a triple-double in a playoff series! Only in Boston Rondo is not a star, in every other city he is FYI.

It's simple. Boston hates super star players. This is a blue collar type of market. Rondo is not a dirt dog he's a diva. Which means that we would rather have Phil Pressey playing PG the next few years than Rondo. He has also reached most of his potential. Potential ball has driven this fan base for years. People wanted to cut KG at one point on this board so that they could rebuild quicker. A handful of posters go as far as to regret that trade because Big Al and GMoney left.

I would say your characterization is way off.  Boston lives for the superstar. Tom Brady?  Big Papi? Larry Bird?  It's no coincidence that the Celtics were kings in this town when Larry Bird was around.  It's no coincidence Football became the top sport when media darling Tom Brady came around.  Boston loves a superstar.

Offline Enzzo

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Players to build a championship team around

1)Superstar

2)Borderline Superstar

Rondo

Is he "The Guy" to lead us to the "promised land"?  DA will probably have to be blown away to trade Rondo but you can bet he is listening and won't hesitate if he gets an offer he can't refuse...

3) All-Star

Green

Great athlete who falls a little short of being an All-Star.  Is he really a building block?  I like Green but i really think he is the 3rd best player on your team not the 2nd best and probably is overpaid to be the 3rd best player on your team...

4) Solid player

Bass

I like what Bass brings to the table but overpaid for a
re-build...Bass could fetch us something as shooting big men are always in demand and his defense is now almost considered elite if you look at the numbers thrown around...albeit with kg behind him...

Bradley

I think we have seen most of his upside though his jumper may improve and DA may let him walk...i hate to say it but AB is a bit of a one-trick pony...would be great on a contending team...not a re-build...

Olynyk

I hope he continues to surprise us

Sullinger

Probably our 2nd best player now after Rondo

5) Role player

Bogans

Great veteran presence but his $5M expiring contract makes him a trade candidate...can DA pull a rabbit out of his hat?

Brooks

Young scoring option off the bench

Crawford

Scoring option off the bench but his $2M contract means he will not be here for long

Faverani

2nd or 3rd string center at best but heck as they say you can't teach heighth and size...

Humphries

Will probably have solid number but not sure where he fits in and his $10M expiring contract makes him a trade candidate...can DA pull a rabbit out of his hat?

Pressey

2nd or 3rd string pg

Lee

Probably a little bit of a disappointment and prob makes too much to be traded

Wallace

Great intangibles and hustle but age not working in his favor and the $30M owed to him means he will be in Celtic green for a while

KNock most of them down a peg.  Rondo is an all-star at best.  Heading forward with the amount of guards in the league, he'll probably teeter around as a fringe all-star... if he recovers at all.

Green will never be an all-star.  He's a solid player.

Bass is a role player...arguably one with a bad contract.

Bradley is a role player if you ask me.  I think he's a long-term defensive specialist off the bench. 

Oly/Sully have potential to be starters some day, but I wouldn't be shocked to see both long-term role players off the bench.

Couple of the guys you have listed as role players belong in the d-league.  A couple more are bench warmers.  Hump and Wallace are probably accurately ranked as role players, though. 

This team is pretty devoid of talent.  Everyone is absolutely available.  The only "untouchable" trade asset on this team is our unprotected 2014 1st round pick.  Everything else can be had.  A few of them (Bass, Wallace, Lee) arguably have negative trade value due to their contracts.

I'm just confused what people want from Rondo? He's not going to ever lead the league in scoring just get over that. But he can average a triple-double in a playoff series! Only in Boston Rondo is not a star, in every other city he is FYI.

It's simple. Boston hates super star players. This is a blue collar type of market. Rondo is not a dirt dog he's a diva. Which means that we would rather have Phil Pressey playing PG the next few years than Rondo. He has also reached most of his potential. Potential ball has driven this fan base for years. People wanted to cut KG at one point on this board so that they could rebuild quicker. A handful of posters go as far as to regret that trade because Big Al and GMoney left.

I would say your characterization is way off.  Boston lives for the superstar. Tom Brady?  Big Papi? Larry Bird?  It's no coincidence that the Celtics were kings in this town when Larry Bird was around.  It's no coincidence Football became the top sport when media darling Tom Brady came around.  Boston loves a superstar.

I think, to a certain extent, every city loves to have a superstar. Not a Carmelo type of star, I agree that wouldn't work. But what city wouldn't want a "star" player? I think the main thing with Boston stars is they're always well respected and generally good people (from a media standpoint). But once Boston gets that star, its like the second coming of Jesus.

Offline LarBrd33

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Players to build a championship team around

1)Superstar

2)Borderline Superstar

Rondo

Is he "The Guy" to lead us to the "promised land"?  DA will probably have to be blown away to trade Rondo but you can bet he is listening and won't hesitate if he gets an offer he can't refuse...

3) All-Star

Green

Great athlete who falls a little short of being an All-Star.  Is he really a building block?  I like Green but i really think he is the 3rd best player on your team not the 2nd best and probably is overpaid to be the 3rd best player on your team...

4) Solid player

Bass

I like what Bass brings to the table but overpaid for a
re-build...Bass could fetch us something as shooting big men are always in demand and his defense is now almost considered elite if you look at the numbers thrown around...albeit with kg behind him...

Bradley

I think we have seen most of his upside though his jumper may improve and DA may let him walk...i hate to say it but AB is a bit of a one-trick pony...would be great on a contending team...not a re-build...

Olynyk

I hope he continues to surprise us

Sullinger

Probably our 2nd best player now after Rondo

5) Role player

Bogans

Great veteran presence but his $5M expiring contract makes him a trade candidate...can DA pull a rabbit out of his hat?

Brooks

Young scoring option off the bench

Crawford

Scoring option off the bench but his $2M contract means he will not be here for long

Faverani

2nd or 3rd string center at best but heck as they say you can't teach heighth and size...

Humphries

Will probably have solid number but not sure where he fits in and his $10M expiring contract makes him a trade candidate...can DA pull a rabbit out of his hat?

Pressey

2nd or 3rd string pg

Lee

Probably a little bit of a disappointment and prob makes too much to be traded

Wallace

Great intangibles and hustle but age not working in his favor and the $30M owed to him means he will be in Celtic green for a while

KNock most of them down a peg.  Rondo is an all-star at best.  Heading forward with the amount of guards in the league, he'll probably teeter around as a fringe all-star... if he recovers at all.

Green will never be an all-star.  He's a solid player.

Bass is a role player...arguably one with a bad contract.

Bradley is a role player if you ask me.  I think he's a long-term defensive specialist off the bench. 

Oly/Sully have potential to be starters some day, but I wouldn't be shocked to see both long-term role players off the bench.

Couple of the guys you have listed as role players belong in the d-league.  A couple more are bench warmers.  Hump and Wallace are probably accurately ranked as role players, though. 

This team is pretty devoid of talent.  Everyone is absolutely available.  The only "untouchable" trade asset on this team is our unprotected 2014 1st round pick.  Everything else can be had.  A few of them (Bass, Wallace, Lee) arguably have negative trade value due to their contracts.

I'm just confused what people want from Rondo? He's not going to ever lead the league in scoring just get over that. But he can average a triple-double in a playoff series! Only in Boston Rondo is not a star, in every other city he is FYI.

It's simple. Boston hates super star players. This is a blue collar type of market. Rondo is not a dirt dog he's a diva. Which means that we would rather have Phil Pressey playing PG the next few years than Rondo. He has also reached most of his potential. Potential ball has driven this fan base for years. People wanted to cut KG at one point on this board so that they could rebuild quicker. A handful of posters go as far as to regret that trade because Big Al and GMoney left.

I would say your characterization is way off.  Boston lives for the superstar. Tom Brady?  Big Papi? Larry Bird?  It's no coincidence that the Celtics were kings in this town when Larry Bird was around.  It's no coincidence Football became the top sport when media darling Tom Brady came around.  Boston loves a superstar.

I think, to a certain extent, every city loves to have a superstar. Not a Carmelo type of star, I agree that wouldn't work. But what city wouldn't want a "star" player? I think the main thing with Boston stars is they're always well respected and generally good people (from a media standpoint). But once Boston gets that star, its like the second coming of Jesus.

This whole chain of quotes is off-base.  I started it by saying that Rondo is "an all-star at best".  Dreamgreen was then "confused" by what "people want from Rondo". 

Let's pause there.  I think ROndo's a quality player.  He is what he is.  You don't have to label him a "superstar" just because you like him.  Paul Pierce is my favorite player of the modern era... but he was never a superstar either. 

You know who was a superstar?  Kevin Garnett was a superstar.  We loved KG too.   There's no aversion to superstars in Boston.  There's just a strong tendency to overrate home-town players.  When people criticize ROndo it's not because they hate him... it's because he has flaws in his game.  Dude was still a top 30 player in his prime.  He just never reached superstar level.  He had some good playoff games, but there's multiple reasons for those big performances beyond "he's a latent superstar!".   At best, he is an all-star.  He's never been 1st or 2nd team ALl-NBA.  He made 3rd team All-NBA once.  Heading forward post-injury he's probably a fringe all-star.  That's just how it is. 

As for Jeff Green... he's a solid player.  I think he can lead a team in scoring, but will never make an all-star team.

It's thought that Andrew Wiggins could be a superstar some day (Top 5 talent).  If we draft him, I promise you Boston fans will have no trouble embracing him.

Offline jyyzzoel

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Rondo is actually a top tier all-star, borderline superstar when the playoffs come around. If you look at his position adjusted win score, two years ago, the only player who  had a higher number out of all 16 teams was Lebron. There are two different Rondos: regular season rondo and playoff rondo. They are two different animals.

Sully is a borderline all star. I've gone into this before so I won't rehash, but he is david west reincarnated. May make two all-star teams.

Kelly Olynyk will have a career average of a PER of 16ish. His best season he may teeter around 18, but he is basically a good starter.

Jeff Green is too hard to predict and has the greatest potential to get traded as filler. He is completely up and down. On average he is a supremely athletic, apathetic, role player. At his best he is a high level starter. Trade this guy.

Avery is a role player. His per and position adjusted win score both back this up. But he is a defensive animal.

Courtney is an average starter.

Jordan Crawford, I think Danny sees him as Nate Robinson reincarnate. He will probably get traded soon. This is backed up by Danny saying that Shavlik Randolph had the greatest potential to be kept out of all the last season acquisitions last season. Ironically shav's gone, but I still think Danny quote is relevant.

Faverani could be a starter like Luke Longley if you guys remember him from the Jordan bulls.

Gerald Wallace is Gerald Wallace. He had a down year last year, but in a run and gun offense like Steven is implementing, his numbers will go back up and he'll be a high level starter. He's a keeper.

Marshon brooks is as effective as Jordan Crawford, but is as wingman, and seems to be a lot more level headed personality wise. It's hard to say whether he or Courtney will stay. It, hard to say anyone will stay this year, but I think Faverani and pressey will stay because their contracts are so good. He can also play small forward if Green gets traded. He's a swingman.

Pressey will evolve into a starter. No more. His contract is unbelievably good. Danny learnt from Steimsma to lock up these guys with potential to be starter for more than one season in order to give the team flexibility. Faverani and pressey are testaments to this.

Bass is gone. No other way to put it. There's going to be at least one trade this year, if not more. Danny compresses the roster as often as possible, giving the team not necessarily the deepest depth, but the few best players he can find. If he could he'd be okay with a roster of five players, as long as they were really good players. Eg: the KG trade aftermath.

Bogans is a lovely expiring contract.

Humphries is a starter, who two years ago was one of the best rebounders in the league. And he was in a contract year. Expect him to have a really good season this year and transform into a high level starter - history repeats itself here. He is also a lovely expiring contract. He just had a bad year lays year, at least that's the way it looked. Statistically though, according to win score per 40 he had a year on par with sullys. Check it out at draft express if you don't believe me.

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Rondo is actually a top tier all-star, borderline superstar when the playoffs come around. If you look at his position adjusted win score, two years ago, the only player who  had a higher number out of all 16 teams was Lebron. There are two different Rondos: regular season rondo and playoff rondo. They are two different animals.

Sully is a borderline superstar. I've gone into this before so I won't rehash, but he is david west reincarnated. May make two all-star teams.

Rondo...No, Rondo is not a top tier all-star. In fact, he'll be hard pressed to be an all-star in the PG loaded East with Williams, Rose, and Irving.

Sullinger...Absolutely not. Look, I love Sullinger, but there is no way on earth he'll ever be a borderline superstar unless he grows at least 4 inches and/or gains about 18 inches in leaping ability. Perhaps my opinion of a "borderline superstar" differs from most, but neither David West or a player who makes 2 all-star teams fit my criteria.

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Rondo is actually a top tier all-star, borderline superstar when the playoffs come around. If you look at his position adjusted win score, two years ago, the only player who  had a higher number out of all 16 teams was Lebron. There are two different Rondos: regular season rondo and playoff rondo. They are two different animals.

Sully is a borderline superstar. I've gone into this before so I won't rehash, but he is david west reincarnated. May make two all-star teams.

Rondo...No, Rondo is not a top tier all-star. In fact, he'll be hard pressed to be an all-star in the PG loaded East with Williams, Rose, and Irving.

Sullinger...Absolutely not. Look, I love Sullinger, but there is no way on earth he'll ever be a borderline superstar unless he grows at least 4 inches and/or gains about 18 inches in leaping ability. Perhaps my opinion of a "borderline superstar" differs from most, but neither David West or a player who makes 2 all-star teams fit my criteria.
A player who makes 2 all-star teams is a borderline all-star.  That's David Lee.  No guarantee he's an all-star next season.


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Sully is a borderline superstar. I've gone into this before so I won't rehash, but he is david west reincarnated. May make two all-star teams.
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Everyone is available in a trade for a reason. The Celtics have a paucity of talent here. Rondo, Jeff Green and maybe Gerald Wallace are your best players. Sully and Olynik are decent power forwards but will not get you to the next level. We see flashes out of Avery Bradley but then he gets hurt and therefore not consistently available.
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Sully is a borderline superstar. I've gone into this before so I won't rehash, but he is david west reincarnated. May make two all-star teams.


Sorry yeah my tablet must've auto corrected. I meant borderline all star, which is why I said he may make the all star team twice.

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Rondo is actually a top tier all-star, borderline superstar when the playoffs come around. If you look at his position adjusted win score, two years ago, the only player who  had a higher number out of all 16 teams was Lebron. There are two different Rondos: regular season rondo and playoff rondo. They are two different animals.

Sully is a borderline superstar. I've gone into this before so I won't rehash, but he is david west reincarnated. May make two all-star teams.

Rondo...No, Rondo is not a top tier all-star. In fact, he'll be hard pressed to be an all-star in the PG loaded East with Williams, Rose, and Irving.

Sullinger...Absolutely not. Look, I love Sullinger, but there is no way on earth he'll ever be a borderline superstar unless he grows at least 4 inches and/or gains about 18 inches in leaping ability. Perhaps my opinion of a "borderline superstar" differs from most, but neither David West or a player who makes 2 all-star teams fit my criteria.

Yeah my tablet auto corrected. I meant sully will be borderline all star