Wallace And Humphries

[NocturnalRebel]

I've seen comments in different threads about little to no mentions about Wallace and/or Humphries so I thought I would start a thread for them and get others opinions about what they saw from them and how they feel.

This is different for everyone so they'll have to get adjusted. I didn't know what to expect from them tonight but I think Wallace and Humphries played well today. Tha defense has to be worked on and tha rebounding will come but if both can play their games at an efficient rate on a consistent basis once they get everything down, I can see them being key pieces to a future championship if they aren't dealt off. They're both good players and if Crash comes back into form he may be worth his contract and I'll forget about Humphries mistake in dating a Kardashian.

Initially I didn't know how to feel about them as Celtics but they impressed me tonight with their efforts and I have a good feeling about them. Welcome to Boston Wallace and Humphries!

[green147]

Although it's one preseason game, they played well. Right now I say they fit better into the Celtics plans than either Bass or Lee. We'll see if that stays true but I gotta give them credit where credit is due.

[wdleehi]

Although it's one preseason game, they played well. Right now I say they fit better into the Celtics plans than either Bass or Lee. We'll see if that stays true but I gotta give them credit where credit is due.

4 guys not in the Celtics long term plan.   

[Celtics18]

Although it's one preseason game, they played well. Right now I say they fit better into the Celtics plans than either Bass or Lee. We'll see if that stays true but I gotta give them credit where credit is due.

4 guys not in the Celtics long term plan.   

Every single guy on the Celtics roster is currently a part of the long term plan in one way or another.  The better each guy plays, the better chance of the long term plan working out for the best. 

This should go without saying, but it doesn't always seem to.

[the_Bird]

I liked what I saw from Wallace, a lot.  I think he's a guy who's going to win over a lot of fans regardless of his contract, and from what I can see he's clearly one of the best players on the squad.  He seemed to be giving full effort in the first preseason games (with a lot of questions regarding his *enthusiasm* for joining the C's), which I take as a positive; he's not an All-Star, but he's a gamer.

[Fafnir]

Although it's one preseason game, they played well. Right now I say they fit better into the Celtics plans than either Bass or Lee. We'll see if that stays true but I gotta give them credit where credit is due.

4 guys not in the Celtics long term plan.   

Every single guy on the Celtics roster is currently a part of the long term plan in one way or another.  The better each guy plays, the better chance of the long term plan working out for the best. 

This should go without saying, but it doesn't always seem to.

Humphries/Wallace are certainly not in the C's long term plan. They'll both be moved or let go after their contracts are up to make room for actual long term pieces for the Cs.

[CFAN38]

They both looked good. This only raises the odds that a contender comes knocking for them at the trade deadline.

[the_Bird]

I'd hesitate to call ANYONE part of the "long-term plans" right now.  Big Al Jeff was the "Big Man of the Future" until the opportunity arose to trade for KG.  KO and Sully are both guys that they clearly like a lot - but at this point, it's impossible to know if they are players they want to build around, or players they want to develop as trade assets for the next permutation of the Ray/KG trades.

[Celtics18]

Although it's one preseason game, they played well. Right now I say they fit better into the Celtics plans than either Bass or Lee. We'll see if that stays true but I gotta give them credit where credit is due.

4 guys not in the Celtics long term plan.   

Every single guy on the Celtics roster is currently a part of the long term plan in one way or another.  The better each guy plays, the better chance of the long term plan working out for the best. 

This should go without saying, but it doesn't always seem to.

Humphries/Wallace are certainly not in the C's long term plan. They'll both be moved or let go after their contracts are up to make room for actual long term pieces for the Cs.

Of course they are part of the long term plan.  The better they play, the better chance of getting a good return for them. 

[Fafnir]

Although it's one preseason game, they played well. Right now I say they fit better into the Celtics plans than either Bass or Lee. We'll see if that stays true but I gotta give them credit where credit is due.

4 guys not in the Celtics long term plan.   

Every single guy on the Celtics roster is currently a part of the long term plan in one way or another.  The better each guy plays, the better chance of the long term plan working out for the best. 

This should go without saying, but it doesn't always seem to.

Humphries/Wallace are certainly not in the C's long term plan. They'll both be moved or let go after their contracts are up to make room for actual long term pieces for the Cs.

Of course they are part of the long term plan.  The better they play, the better chance of getting a good return for them.

By that logic camp invites are part of the long term. Because they're practice bodies who are there to help the rookies who are part of the long term get better.

They're short term players who we're hoping to move for a return if possible. AKA short term guys that DA is going to try to convert into a long term asset. That doesn't mean they're part of the C's long term plans.

[Celtics18]

I'd hesitate to call ANYONE part of the "long-term plans" right now.  Big Al Jeff was the "Big Man of the Future" until the opportunity arose to trade for KG.  KO and Sully are both guys that they clearly like a lot - but at this point, it's impossible to know if they are players they want to build around, or players they want to develop as trade assets for the next permutation of the Ray/KG trades.

Big Al was a huge part of the long term plan.  He is in large part to thank for us winning our 17th championship and having a good five year run as a contending team.

[the_Bird]

I'd hesitate to call ANYONE part of the "long-term plans" right now.  Big Al Jeff was the "Big Man of the Future" until the opportunity arose to trade for KG.  KO and Sully are both guys that they clearly like a lot - but at this point, it's impossible to know if they are players they want to build around, or players they want to develop as trade assets for the next permutation of the Ray/KG trades.

Big Al was a huge part of the long term plan.  He is in large part to thank for us winning our 17th championship and having a good five year run as a contending team.

We're going to have an argument over semantics here.  I'd define a guy that's part of the long-term plans as being a guy envisioned as being part of the next championship squad. 

I think Rondo's one of those guys; he's not going anywhere. 

I could easily see KO, Sully, AB, pretty much every other player currently on the team being part of a big trade in a year or two.  So, to my way of defining the world, I can't say that they're part of the "future" because I could easily see any of those guys getting churned.

[Celtics18]

Although it's one preseason game, they played well. Right now I say they fit better into the Celtics plans than either Bass or Lee. We'll see if that stays true but I gotta give them credit where credit is due.

4 guys not in the Celtics long term plan.   

Every single guy on the Celtics roster is currently a part of the long term plan in one way or another.  The better each guy plays, the better chance of the long term plan working out for the best. 

This should go without saying, but it doesn't always seem to.

Humphries/Wallace are certainly not in the C's long term plan. They'll both be moved or let go after their contracts are up to make room for actual long term pieces for the Cs.

Of course they are part of the long term plan.  The better they play, the better chance of getting a good return for them.

By that logic camp invites are part of the long term. Because they're practice bodies who are there to help the rookies who are part of the long term get better.

They're short term players who we're hoping to move for a return if possible. AKA short term guys that DA is going to try to convert into a long term asset. That doesn't mean they're part of the C's long term plans.

I guess I would agree that in some small way training camp invites are a part of the long term plan.  Of course, saying that they are as crucial a part of the long term plan as Gerald Wallace or Kris Humphries is about as silly (actually  sillier) as saying that Gerald Wallace and Kris Humphries are as integral a part of the long term plan as Rajon Rondo.

I am growing weary of this becoming too semantic an argument, but from my perspective, they're here, so they are part of the plan. 

That doesn't mean they stay forever, but it means I root for them to do well while they are Celtics.  Those guys playing well won't only make for a more enjoyable season, but it well help make for a brighter future. 

[Fafnir]

I am growing weary of this becoming too semantic an argument, but from my perspective, they're here, so they are part of the plan.   

I look forward to your opinions on the long term implications of each out of bounds play the C's run this season then.

When you turn everyone and everything into a "long term" item you're losing the forest for the trees.

[wdleehi]

Although it's one preseason game, they played well. Right now I say they fit better into the Celtics plans than either Bass or Lee. We'll see if that stays true but I gotta give them credit where credit is due.

4 guys not in the Celtics long term plan.   

Every single guy on the Celtics roster is currently a part of the long term plan in one way or another.  The better each guy plays, the better chance of the long term plan working out for the best. 

This should go without saying, but it doesn't always seem to.

Humphries/Wallace are certainly not in the C's long term plan. They'll both be moved or let go after their contracts are up to make room for actual long term pieces for the Cs.

Of course they are part of the long term plan.  The better they play, the better chance of getting a good return for them.

The Celtics hope they play in a way that increases their trade value, but those players are not part of the long term plan except to find a way to get them off the cap sooner vs. later.


Humphries might bring a decent return as a rent a player.



Wallace is just a bad contract.  Too long and too much money for a guy that has been showing the downside of his career in recent seasons. 


Bass and Lee are role players on good teams that might bring a small return if they play well.


Wallace and Humphries are the cost of getting those 1st rounders for Pierce and KG.