C's and Bradley not close on a contract extension

[PhoSita]

4 year 20 million contract is fair.

I would not pay a role player who is that limited on offense 5 million a year unless he were a center.

Bradley has to show he can at least be a replacement-level guy on the offensive end -- for an entire season.  He also has to demonstrate that he can stay healthy.

[JBcat]

How is one of the best defenders in the NBA a dime a dozen??

Cause he's a specialist...Great Defender...means A LOT to a team that is competing for a ring---we're obviously not. We have to put our money into Great players if we can--no use giving the Specialists of this league Big money...He's a restricted free agent after this season I believe---if he plays great, fine-pay him.

I agree but I want to see more of Bradley for at least during the first half of this year.  He is at an age where players can have big jumps in their games, and it's his first summer that he didn't have to worry about rehabbing. 

If he proves to be not much more than a defensive specialist, then by all means trade him to a contender for a future unprotected pick.  The more chances to draft stars the better.

[86MaxwellSmart]

4 years for $15 mil would be tops for Bradley if I'm Ainge.

[Celtics18]

I would have been thrilled if Avery Bradley could have been locked up for four years at $5million per.  I doubt Danny offered him that much, though. 

[moiso]

4 years for $15 mil would be tops for Bradley if I'm Ainge.

I second all of your posts in this thread.

[PhoSita]

I would have been thrilled if Avery Bradley could have been locked up for four years at $5million per.  I doubt Danny offered him that much, though.

Once upon a time, I thought that once Bradley reached the end of his rookie deal, he'd have proven himself worthy of a deal similar to Marcus Thornton's (4 years, 30 million).

As it stands now, I don't think Bradley is really worthy of Shannon Brown money (2 years, $7 million).

Finding a salary comparison for Bradley is difficult because guards who can't score tend to bounce around the league a lot.  Derek Fisher is the only guy I can think of who kept a consistent gig, and that was mainly because he fit the triangle well and got along with Kobe.  Also, the clutch threes in the playoffs.

I'd offer Avery 3 years $10 million, with incentive bonuses that could get it as high as $12 million (e.g. games played, All-Star game, All-Defense).

As I said before, I think it makes the most sense for both parties to wait until after the season.  If Avery starts the entire season, shows improvement, stays healthy, and averages double digit points on at least 42/35/75 shooting, along with his trademark defense, I could see him earning that 4 year / 20 million deal, or something close to it.

[D.o.s.]

Uh-O...then we will need TWILL, who would paly for easily $500,000.00 a year...and is bigger and better than Bradley....less injury prone...and can do more....

The Return of the TWILL!

TP.

[JSD]

Bradley is the type of player you keep around. He stays in front on the perimeter like few guards can in the nba. Hopefully Danny can sign him up for Tony Allen type money.

[Meadowlark_Scal]

I w DOS...got me there....but WADE hated the way Twill covered him...that has to be worth something.....for those that saw it....I did. Twill is a slasher...not much chance to see him shoot, as he was a bench rider.....not a ray allen shooter....but look, BBD developed a shot, ANYONE at that level can become a solid shooter....if they put in the work.....AB was best when RONDO was there....twill never had that chance...yet...!

[slamtheking]

I w DOS...got me there....but WADE hated the way Twill covered him...that has to be worth something.....for those that saw it....I did. Twill is a slasher...not much chance to see him shoot, as he was a bench rider.....not a ray allen shooter....but look, BBD developed a shot, ANYONE at that level can become a solid shooter....if they put in the work.....AB was best when RONDO was there....twill never had that chance...yet...!

let's move on from T-Will.  it's long past the point where he should now be called  T-Won't

[merkins]

I dont think committing to any long term deals is wise until we see how these guys are used and perform in the new Coach Stevens system.  Especially those with limitations in their game.

If we are going to run more, will Bradley shine?  If we are moving towards more of a team defensive scheme, will he be of the value he is probably seeking from an extension?

Its also tough, because to me, Bradley is one of those players that its difficult to define value for as it is and this is magnified with the turnover in the roster and coaching.

[Monkhouse]

The problem is what if Bradley does perform past said expectations? What if he scores 12-16 PPG, 1.8 SPG, 2.3 APG, and has solid defense enough to warrant him 1st defense All Team? Then he's going to at least ask for more than 5 million per year, and even though we'll have some cap space to move around it'll hurt us more once Rondo's contract expires.

I think we should lock him up for cheap, since he won't ask for a higher contract. Then once we do, look to maybe convince Rondo not to ask for a max deal.

He's still young to a point even if we didn't want him next year after the contract, then he's easily movable for at least a decent draft pick, or a younger prospect with potential. Every team needs a defensive stalwart.

[Fan from VT]

The problem is what if Bradley does perform past said expectations? What if he scores 12-16 PPG, 1.8 SPG, 2.3 APG, and has solid defense enough to warrant him 1st defense All Team? Then he's going to at least ask for more than 5 million per year, and even though we'll have some cap space to move around it'll hurt us more once Rondo's contract expires.

I think we should lock him up for cheap, since he won't ask for a higher contract. Then once we do, look to maybe convince Rondo not to ask for a max deal.

He's still young to a point even if we didn't want him next year after the contract, then he's easily movable for at least a decent draft pick, or a younger prospect with potential. Every team needs a defensive stalwart.

We also don't know what he's asking. What if his agent is coming from the standpoint that Bradley is essentially an Afflalo type? Afflalo had 3 uninspiring years before scoring 12.8, >.400 from three, and being a very good defender (with better size than Bradley). He then signed 5 years 43. Is that what Bradley is asking for? Is Afflalo worth more than 8 million per year? Is Bradley?

[Fafnir]

If you're rebuilding you don't sign role players to long term deals earlier than you have to.

[kozlodoev]

The problem is what if Bradley does perform past said expectations? What if he scores 12-16 PPG, 1.8 SPG, 2.3 APG, and has solid defense enough to warrant him 1st defense All Team? Then he's going to at least ask for more than 5 million per year, and even though we'll have some cap space to move around it'll hurt us more once Rondo's contract expires.

I think we should lock him up for cheap, since he won't ask for a higher contract. Then once we do, look to maybe convince Rondo not to ask for a max deal.

He's still young to a point even if we didn't want him next year after the contract, then he's easily movable for at least a decent draft pick, or a younger prospect with potential. Every team needs a defensive stalwart.

I don't think paying him $5 million over 4 years is, in any form, locking him up for "cheap".