What's your depth chart this year?

[ScoobyDoo]

For argument's sake, assuming the team stays as it is for this season, what is your depth chart based on current knowledge of the players on our roster?

Mine would have to be:

Olynyk / Fab / Faverani
Sullinger / Bass / Humphries
Green / Wallace / Bogans
Bradley / Lee / Brooks
Rondo / Pressey / Crawford

Olynyk is the best 7 footer we have according to what I've seen of Fab and all of nothing I've seen from Faverani. I put Bogans at the 3rd string SF just because we have to many off guards. Same for Crawford at the ;point position and also because he can handle the ball half decently even if he looks alike a complete spaz -which i kind of like about his game, you never know what's going to happen...which is interesting, if often times painful...

That starting five above could be lightning quick with Olynyk's end to end speed at the Center spot, Sully would be the plodding trailer in that lineup. Rebounding would be weak, and defense in the front court suspect, though Green and Sully are both decent defenders.

Thoughts?   

[Vermont Green]

I like that you slotted Bogans as the #3 SF.  That makes sense.  Otherwise (and I know this will not be conventional opinion) I think they start the veterans.  Maybe Sullinger starts for Bass but I see them showcasing Wallace and Hump.  Bradley starts if Rondo isn't ready for start of season but I like Bradley off the bench as a combo guard.  I also don't mind Green off the bench although he is certainly capable of starting.

I put Melo as a PF but it doesn't matter where you play him (or more likely don't play him).

Rondo        Bradley     Pressey
Lee            Brooks      Crawford
Wallace      Green       Bogans
Bass           Sullinger   Melo
Humphries  Olynyk      Faverani

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So far as I'm concerned, players 11-15 are in the "pool" rather than backing up a particular position, since they're probably not going to play anyhow.

I hope and think that this year will see quite a bit of time to develop the young (hopefully) core of the team.

Rondo/Pressey
Bradley (by default)/Lee
Green/Wallace
Sully (starter before injury)/Bass (earned it)

And then we have the problem position...

Humphries is probably the most experience and (gulp) best option...but I might not pair him with Sully.  It might work okay if Sully has that 16ft jumper going, but it would probably just be a mess.  Hump would be better paired with Bass, but I'm starting Sully.

I hope the new guy is ready to play, I guess.

New Guy/Hump at center.

BUT THAT DOESN'T WORK!  OLYNYK HAS TO PLAY!

So he either plays C (next to who?  Sully?  Can he start as a rookie?)

Screw it...  I'm starting the rookie, reminding everyone he's a lottery pick, and getting right to developing chemistry with our Green/Sully/Olynyk front line.

Do - over:

Rondo/Pressey
Bradley/Lee (though I might like Bogans better)
Green/Crash
Sully/Bass
Olynyk/Hump

These lineups put Rondo with young guys Sully and KO, and to help develop Green as a primary scorer.

Pressey, the undrafted rookie PG, would play with veteran lineups of Lee, Crash, Bass, and Hump.

The rest of the players are just in the "pool."

Pool:

Crawford
Brooks
Bogans (first wing replacement)

[mmmmm]

For argument's sake, assuming the team stays as it is for this season, what is your depth chart based on current knowledge of the players on our roster?

Mine would have to be:

Olynyk / Fab / Faverani
Sullinger / Bass / Humphries
Green / Wallace / Bogans
Bradley / Lee / Brooks
Rondo / Pressey / Crawford

Olynyk is the best 7 footer we have according to what I've seen of Fab and all of nothing I've seen from Faverani. I put Bogans at the 3rd string SF just because we have to many off guards. Same for Crawford at the ;point position and also because he can handle the ball half decently even if he looks alike a complete spaz -which i kind of like about his game, you never know what's going to happen...which is interesting, if often times painful...

That starting five above could be lightning quick with Olynyk's end to end speed at the Center spot, Sully would be the plodding trailer in that lineup. Rebounding would be weak, and defense in the front court suspect, though Green and Sully are both decent defenders.

Thoughts?

I think that's reasonable, though I think the up front pairings may not quite lineup that way.

I.E. - if you rest Sully out from 'PF', while leaving Olynyk still in, I don't think it makes sense to put Bass in next to Olynyk.   I think up front, you want to use complementary pairings that have one guy who can work the low post and one guy who can start his offense from outside, in order to stretch the defense.

That's why I don't think conventional 'C' and 'PF' distinctions really are all that useful.

Of our bigs, I think that Sully, Hump, Olynyk & Faverani are all going to be capable of playing in the post while Olynyk, Sully & Bass are likely the best candidates to play as a 'stretch big'.   I'm still not sure about Faverani's jump shot game.

Also on the bigs:  While I agree with your sentiment that Sully & KO are, in the long term, probably the most talented two bigs, seem to have very complementary offensive games and may end up starting, I'm not sure they'll get the nod over the veterans to start the season.   Humphries is a legit big man and a veteran and I can see him getting the starting nod, if he puts his mind into it.

I also feel Bogans is definitely not an SF, but I agree there is a real pinch for minutes at SG.

[ScoobyDoo]

Interesting point regarding the veterans and I think you're probably right Vermont Green.

So maybe showcase Wallace, Humphries and Lee (Bass should be fairly easy to move next season as an expiring if we want - or even this year if someone is looking for some veteran help in the front court for a playoff run. 

So maybe:

Humphries / Fab / Faverani
Sullinger / Olynyk / Bass
Green / Wallace / Bogans
Lee / Brooks / Crawford
Bradley / Pressey / Crawford

* Wallce gets a lot of burn as our sixth man?
* Shelve Rondo through the trade deadline?

Love the stream of consciousness More Banners, enjoyed that.

[ScoobyDoo]

I do like the inside out possibilities of Olynyk and Sullinger. If Faverani can run the floor and play at all in the post, he could also pair well with Olynyk or Sully.

Good point regarding Humphries. I have to say I'm excited about the season and one of the reasons is I'm interested to see what Stevens and Rondo can do with guys like Humphries, Brooks, Olynyk, Faverani and Fab for that matter.

Guys get new life in new situations sometimes. If we are truly moving towards being an uptempo team, Faverani, Hump and Olynyk can definitely fly up and down the court. That could make for some easy buckets with Rondo and Pressey at the helm

Though I know I'll get hammered, I wouldn't be opposed to the following either:

Fab
Sully
Green
Bradley
Rondo

[sofutomygaha]

Though I know I'll get hammered, I wouldn't be opposed to the following either:

Fab
Sully
Green
Bradley
Rondo

I think you're already hammered. 

[ScoobyDoo]

It is 3pm on a Wednesday...

[BudweiserCeltic]

Going 5 deep by position, this is my preferred rotation to begin the season:

PG - Rondo-Lee-Bradley-Pressey-Crawford
SG - Bradley-Lee-Brooks-Crawford-Bogans
SF - Green-Wallace-Lee-Bogans-Bass
PF - Sullinger-Wallace-Humphries-Green-Olynyk
C -  Humphries-Faverani-Sullinger-Olynyk-Bass

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Going 5 deep by position, this is my preferred rotation to begin the season:

PG - Rondo-Lee-Bradley-Pressey-Crawford
SG - Bradley-Lee-Brooks-Crawford-Bogans
SF - Green-Wallace-Lee-Bogans-Bass
PF - Sullinger-Wallace-Humphries-Green-Olynyk
C -  Humphries-Faverani-Sullinger-Olynyk-Bass

5 deep?  What's the point of that, even if we could play Ultimate Small Ball with an all-guard lineup?

Lee, Bradley, and Crawford are simply not point guards.  We have two PG's, that's it.  That's why I established the "pool" to just stick the insufficiently talented, "extra" players like Crawford and (until he proves himself) Brooks.

At SG, Bogans might be able to beat out Lee, never mind Brooks and Crawford (neither of whom is a 3pt threat).  He's surely not 5th in the rotation behind two marginal NBA players.

At SF, the pointlessness of going 5-deep repeats itself, as Bass has no chance at SF.

And I can't possibly see our lottery pick as 5th and 4th deep in any rotation on this team this year.  Figuring out who sits so Olynyk can play was the hardest part for me in this exercise, but he simply must play.

What a roster mess...

[BudweiserCeltic]

Going 5 deep by position, this is my preferred rotation to begin the season:

PG - Rondo-Lee-Bradley-Pressey-Crawford
SG - Bradley-Lee-Brooks-Crawford-Bogans
SF - Green-Wallace-Lee-Bogans-Bass
PF - Sullinger-Wallace-Humphries-Green-Olynyk
C -  Humphries-Faverani-Sullinger-Olynyk-Bass

5 deep?  What's the point of that, even if we could play Ultimate Small Ball with an all-guard lineup?

Lee, Bradley, and Crawford are simply not point guards.  We have two PG's, that's it.  That's why I established the "pool" to just stick the insufficiently talented, "extra" players like Crawford and (until he proves himself) Brooks.

At SG, Bogans might be able to beat out Lee, never mind Brooks and Crawford (neither of whom is a 3pt threat).  He's surely not 5th in the rotation behind two marginal NBA players.

At SF, the pointlessness of going 5-deep repeats itself, as Bass has no chance at SF.

And I can't possibly see our lottery pick as 5th and 4th deep in any rotation on this team this year.  Figuring out who sits so Olynyk can play was the hardest part for me in this exercise, but he simply must play.

What a roster mess...

Because players do not play solely one position... so depending on the situation and injuries, that's pretty much how I rank the players I want to see on the floor by position. And taking that into consideration, it gave me a better opportunity to list as many players in our roster as I could.

I also considered that rookies will need to prove themselves before jumping up the ranks, and also put into consideration that some may not be even be dressed to get an opportunity to get on the floor... so to that point, why only list Rondo-Pressey as your PGs if Pressey will probably not be in uniform, but in the D-League. So who plays behind Rondo?

I took those situationals into consideration.

[filmexec]

I'm not convinced that we will have all these players come Training Camp? I feel that we will trade Humphries plus another player for a legitimate Center. My choices would be O. Asik (Rockets), M. Gortat (Suns) or K. Perkins (Thunder)?

So my Lineup would be:

      PG- Rajon Rondo - Nolan Smith and/or Phil Pressey
      SG- Avery Bradley - MarShon Brooks -   *
      C - Traded Center* - Vitor Faverani - Fab Melo*
      PF- Jared Sullinger - Kelly Olynck - Brandon Bass
      SF- Jeff Green - Gerald Wallace - Keith Bogans (G)

* Kris Humphries (F) plus one of these possible players: Courtney Lee (G/F), Jordan Crawford (G), Fab Melo (C) and a Draft Choice?
   If you trade Melo they can re-sign Shavik Randolph (F/C) to to a one year contract.

[ScoobyDoo]

That's not bad fimexec. This post was "assuming" we retained our current roster. But I agree, if it's not this year then by next year we will most likely be packaging some arrangement of players and picks for a bit more of a solution at the center position.   

[CelticsFan9]

Rondo/Crawford/Pressey
Bradley/Lee/Brooks/Bogans
Green/Wallace
Sullinger/Bass
Olynyk/Humphries/Faverani/Melo
 
I like the offensive potential of the starting lineup, but the bench needs a lot of work.  It needs more shooting and defense to complement the starters.

Brooks and Crawford are similar players, so one of them needs to go.  Humphries and Bogans are expiring, so there's some value there.  Bass and Lee could be useful to contenders (or even just playoff teams).  Wallace is Wallace.  Faverani and Melo are projects.

Good god, this team needs work.

[billysan]

I think Rondo if healthy is the obvious choice at PG. His backup will likely be Bradley IMO, with Lee as the 3rd string guy.

At SG we have Bogans, Bradley, Brooks, Crawford and Lee. Even though Bogans and Lee are listed as SF backups on the roster, I doubt we keep both of them. I see Lee as the likely starter at the seasons beginning.

Jeff Green is our SF and Wallace is the backup barring injury. I know lots want Wallace gone but he may well surprise some folks this year. I could see him in a James Posey type role defensively in a small lineup. He is my predicted sleeper on our roster.

PF is Bass, Hump and Sullinger. Any could start depending on the system our new coach installs. If healthy I predict Sullinger. I think we keep Hump until the trade deadline to maximize his expiring deal in a trade. Hopefully Bass doesnt last that long.

Center is Faverani, Olynyk and Melo. Tough Choice but Melo isnt ready so D league for him. Olynyk is a rookie and probably better suited to play PF. Faverani is brand new to the NBA and an unknown quantity. If Faverani or Olynyk shine in camp and impress the staff then one will start. If not it is Hump/Bass and Sully together.


Rondo/Bradley
Lee/Bogans
Green/Wallace
Sullinger/Bass
Hump/Olynyk/Faverani


The rest will not start or make the rotation except possibly Brooks if we deal Bogans and/or Lee. He needs to have a good camp as well or he may be gone.