Has Rondo Been Named Captain Yet?

[jakeshaffer]

Rondo is the captain.
I can't see anybody else taking the reign

[GreenEnvy]

I see nothing in his actions (or play, to be honest) that make him worthy of being the next captain.

From everything I have ever read about him, he is very difficult to get along with. He may be the leader to some on the court, but he never did it by himself. He is also clearly not a leader off the court, with reports of clashes with teammates and coaches alike.

I'd be very surprised, shocked even, if they name him captain this season. Let him have a season as the true "leader" of this franchise and see how he responds. Would anyone at all be genuinely surprised if he sulked and acted up if we start the season terribly?


This team needs a better roster, not a captain for the sake of having one.

So do you actually have any concrete evidence that doesn't involve BS rumors by the media? The same media who dislikes Rondo because he blows them off all the time?

I don't see why the media would completely fabricate stories. I believe he had an ongoing rift with Ray. I believe there were problems with Doc (perhaps why he wasn't willing to stick around with KG/PP leaving?). And I believe he orchestrated the clash between younger players and the vets.

You can choose to not believe any of them. I believe where there is smoke there is fire. He is temperamental on the court and no reason to believe he can be even moreso off it.

I see nothing in his actions (or play, to be honest) that make him worthy of being the next captain.

From everything I have ever read about him, he is very difficult to get along with. He may be the leader to some on the court, but he never did it by himself. He is also clearly not a leader off the court, with reports of clashes with teammates and coaches alike.

  Start listing great players in the league that don't ever clash with teammates and coaches. If you end up with more than a few names on your list then you don't follow the nba too closely. Your list of "leaders" would leave out most of the best players in nba history.

This thread is not about whether Rondo is a great player or not. Should every great player automatically be named captain of his respective team? I think the title is earned by what you do off the court just as much as what you do on it.

Every team doesn't have a captain at all times. I see no reason to give him a title he does not deserve. Is the best player on this lottery team? Yes. Is he the longest tenured player immediately after trading away the heart and soul of the team? Yes. Is that a reason to name him captain of the Boston Celtics? No.

[sed522002]

I see nothing in his actions (or play, to be honest) that make him worthy of being the next captain.

From everything I have ever read about him, he is very difficult to get along with. He may be the leader to some on the court, but he never did it by himself. He is also clearly not a leader off the court, with reports of clashes with teammates and coaches alike.

I'd be very surprised, shocked even, if they name him captain this season. Let him have a season as the true "leader" of this franchise and see how he responds. Would anyone at all be genuinely surprised if he sulked and acted up if we start the season terribly?


This team needs a better roster, not a captain for the sake of having one.

So do you actually have any concrete evidence that doesn't involve BS rumors by the media? The same media who dislikes Rondo because he blows them off all the time?

I don't see why the media would completely fabricate stories. I believe he had an ongoing rift with Ray. I believe there were problems with Doc (perhaps why he wasn't willing to stick around with KG/PP leaving?). And I believe he orchestrated the clash between younger players and the vets.

You can choose to not believe any of them. I believe where there is smoke there is fire. He is temperamental on the court and no reason to believe he can be even moreso off it.

I see nothing in his actions (or play, to be honest) that make him worthy of being the next captain.

From everything I have ever read about him, he is very difficult to get along with. He may be the leader to some on the court, but he never did it by himself. He is also clearly not a leader off the court, with reports of clashes with teammates and coaches alike.

  Start listing great players in the league that don't ever clash with teammates and coaches. If you end up with more than a few names on your list then you don't follow the nba too closely. Your list of "leaders" would leave out most of the best players in nba history.

This thread is not about whether Rondo is a great player or not. Should every great player automatically be named captain of his respective team? I think the title is earned by what you do off the court just as much as what you do on it.

Every team doesn't have a captain at all times. I see no reason to give him a title he does not deserve. Is the best player on this lottery team? Yes. Is he the longest tenured player immediately after trading away the heart and soul of the team? Yes. Is that a reason to name him captain of the Boston Celtics? No.

All those things you just said about Rondo was said about Pierce at one point. Pierce didn't get along with Doc when he first came, he ignored him during timeouts and Doc told him he was setting a bad example in front of the younger players. You didn't hear a lot about Pierce off the court (which you don't about Rondo),but he was very immature (i.e  wearing bandage during playoffs to show calls he wasn't getting) and Pierce was almost traded for CP3,but they couldn't get a deal.

Pierce didn't like Pitino. Then he didn't like Doc Rivers. It was obvious. Pierce would stand apart from his teammates and coach during timeouts.

. . .

"Me and Doc definitely bumped heads from the beginning," he said. "There were screaming matches, rebellion. I didn't think it was going to work between me and him. Doc would say, 'Paul, your body language and your attitude says a lot for the guys around you. I know you're not happy not winning games. But you have to know how if affects the rest of the guys. When your body language is low and you're not getting extra shots, it rubs off on the other guys.'

. . .

The Celtics tried to trade Pierce for Chris Paul the night of the 2005 NBA draft, but could not close the deal.

http://www.boston.com/sports/basketball/celtics/articles/2008/06/05/moment_of_truth/?page=full

[bfrombleacher]

I don't see why the media would completely fabricate stories. I believe he had an ongoing rift with Ray. I believe there were problems with Doc (perhaps why he wasn't willing to stick around with KG/PP leaving?). And I believe he orchestrated the clash between younger players and the vets.

You can choose to not believe any of them. I believe where there is smoke there is fire. He is temperamental on the court and no reason to believe he can be even moreso off it.

He doesn't do good interviews, doesn't give them quotes and stories to write about.

[indeedproceed]

I don't see why the media would completely fabricate stories. I believe he had an ongoing rift with Ray. I believe there were problems with Doc (perhaps why he wasn't willing to stick around with KG/PP leaving?). And I believe he orchestrated the clash between younger players and the vets.

You can choose to not believe any of them. I believe where there is smoke there is fire. He is temperamental on the court and no reason to believe he can be even moreso off it.

He doesn't do good interviews, doesn't give them quotes and stories to write about.

Neither does KG. if you're not Jackie Mac or Bill Russell, KG ain't got time for that.

Seems pretty flimsy.

[LooseCannon]

I wouldn't be shocked if this isn't made official until training camp starts.

[billysan]

Neither does KG. if you're not Jackie Mac or Bill Russell, KG ain't got time for that.

Seems pretty flimsy.

KG did this by choice and did not accept the title of Captain in deference to a more deserving (in his opinion) Paul Pierce. Paul Pierce had to grow up a little and decide he wanted to lead the Celtics. He had to earn that title with more than just being an all star player.

I have no problem with Rondo being the new captain of the Celtics. I know he will be given the chance. I just think we should wait to see what kind of leadership if any he provides the team. As previously mentioned, a great player doesnt make a leader.

He may elect to be like KG and not accept the role. I believe that it is a desirable trait of veteran players to show some leadership and set good examples for younger teammates. KG and others have done this regardless of their relationship with the media. This makes a team better and how the Celtics handle it will be largely up to Rondo.

[Amonkey]

Rondo played with a broken arm. Players see that and see leadership. He has earned it.

[Interceptor]

Rondo played with a broken arm. Players see that and see leadership. He has earned it.

Haha, I'd call that stubbornness, but TP for the sentiment.

Rondo is the de-facto Captain until Pierce comes back, naturally.

[dasani]

Isn't the captain usually named around the end of training camp and voted on by the players of the team? So I doubt anything would be known at this time.

[dark_lord]

the best player on a team doesn't mean they are worthy of being a capt.  to be honest, i dont even know who should be capt.  rondo's off the court behaviors are not conducive to being a leader, even though can be a floor general on the floor.  to be a capt, the two (on and off the court) go hand in hand.

You got concrete evidence of that?
All the reports are hear say.

It's just easier to hate on Rondo, easier to blame someone.

Ya'll should be thankful he's still in this team.
He's our only draw, players would love to play with Rondo, and that's a fact.

here is one:
 
http://nesn.com/2011/12/rajon-rondo-erupts-during-heat-playoff-series-throws-bottle-that-breaks-video-screen-says-new-report/

"Rondo's errors were being pointed out when he arose and began discussing the mistakes of his teammates. Loudly. Using harsh language," Bulpett wrote. "Coach Doc Rivers got up and fired back, and Rondo threw a bottle that shattered the video screen. He bolted from the practice facility and was prevented from returning when he tried later."

there are plenty of "hear say" reports.  enough to make you think there is some legitimacy.  even on the court stuff like throwing a ball at a ref, bumping into a ref (and getting suspended in the playoffs), etc.  just not a leader imo.  he is a great player and a great floor general, but i dont think he is a good leader.

[Boris Badenov]

There was just a short article about this on ESPN, for what that's worth. It sounds like captains are named right before the year starts.

http://espn.go.com/boston/nba/story/_/id/9518699/rajon-rondo-next-captain-boston-celtics

[BballTim]

I see nothing in his actions (or play, to be honest) that make him worthy of being the next captain.

From everything I have ever read about him, he is very difficult to get along with. He may be the leader to some on the court, but he never did it by himself. He is also clearly not a leader off the court, with reports of clashes with teammates and coaches alike.

I'd be very surprised, shocked even, if they name him captain this season. Let him have a season as the true "leader" of this franchise and see how he responds. Would anyone at all be genuinely surprised if he sulked and acted up if we start the season terribly?


This team needs a better roster, not a captain for the sake of having one.

So do you actually have any concrete evidence that doesn't involve BS rumors by the media? The same media who dislikes Rondo because he blows them off all the time?

I don't see why the media would completely fabricate stories. I believe he had an ongoing rift with Ray. I believe there were problems with Doc (perhaps why he wasn't willing to stick around with KG/PP leaving?). And I believe he orchestrated the clash between younger players and the vets.

You can choose to not believe any of them. I believe where there is smoke there is fire. He is temperamental on the court and no reason to believe he can be even moreso off it.

I see nothing in his actions (or play, to be honest) that make him worthy of being the next captain.

From everything I have ever read about him, he is very difficult to get along with. He may be the leader to some on the court, but he never did it by himself. He is also clearly not a leader off the court, with reports of clashes with teammates and coaches alike.

  Start listing great players in the league that don't ever clash with teammates and coaches. If you end up with more than a few names on your list then you don't follow the nba too closely. Your list of "leaders" would leave out most of the best players in nba history.

This thread is not about whether Rondo is a great player or not. Should every great player automatically be named captain of his respective team? I think the title is earned by what you do off the court just as much as what you do on it.

  I wasn't really talking about whether he's a great player, more that if you're claiming that occasionally clashing with coaches or other players means you're not a leader then very few of the top players of all time would be seen as leaders. In Rondo's casein particular we've seen plenty of reports from the coaches and the other players on the team about how they consider him to be a leader, I don't think Ray not liking him somehow invalidate how the rest of the team perceive him.

[Boris Badenov]

First, as a practical matter I don't see any scenario in which Rondo is not made captain - outside of him getting traded. There's no other realistic candidate.

Beyond that I also don't see why there would be any fuss about such a move.

Go back and read about Larry Bird, or Michael Jordan, or Kobe Bryant. Those guys all went toe-to-toe with teammates, coaches, refs, other players and anyone else on numerous occasions.

I'm not saying that such a leadership style is the best one in terms of getting the guys around you to play better. I actually think it isn't. But, painting Rondo as unworthy of being a captain seems extreme given that what he's done is not too different from what many other team leaders have done in the past.

[BballTim]

the best player on a team doesn't mean they are worthy of being a capt.  to be honest, i dont even know who should be capt.  rondo's off the court behaviors are not conducive to being a leader, even though can be a floor general on the floor.  to be a capt, the two (on and off the court) go hand in hand.

You got concrete evidence of that?
All the reports are hear say.

It's just easier to hate on Rondo, easier to blame someone.

Ya'll should be thankful he's still in this team.
He's our only draw, players would love to play with Rondo, and that's a fact.

here is one:
 
http://nesn.com/2011/12/rajon-rondo-erupts-during-heat-playoff-series-throws-bottle-that-breaks-video-screen-says-new-report/

"Rondo's errors were being pointed out when he arose and began discussing the mistakes of his teammates. Loudly. Using harsh language," Bulpett wrote. "Coach Doc Rivers got up and fired back, and Rondo threw a bottle that shattered the video screen. He bolted from the practice facility and was prevented from returning when he tried later."

there are plenty of "hear say" reports.  enough to make you think there is some legitimacy.  even on the court stuff like throwing a ball at a ref, bumping into a ref (and getting suspended in the playoffs), etc.  just not a leader imo.  he is a great player and a great floor general, but i dont think he is a good leader.

  I guess this is a sign of the split on Rondo. Some people look at the 2011 Heat series (where he got angry during a meeting after a frustrating loss) as proof that he's not a leader. Other people look at that series (Rondo playing through an incredibly painful injury that should have kept him sidelined for about 2 months) as proof of the opposite.