Shav Gone. Is Wilcox next?

[2short]

I think it mainly means ainge couldn't move one of the power forwards making more money.  I doubt he has a secret handshake with shav saying don't sign with anyone else I'll be moving a few players soon and want to resign you.  Shav should be picked up by another team, he's a good 3rd big off the bench at either position and is affordable.
sorry to see him go, liked his work effort and price

[nickagneta]

Funny, I almost always forget about Cox. I like him. I doubt he stays anyway.

There's a really good joke in here, but I'm not going to touch it.

[nickagneta]

I really think what we see is what we will get for most of this year. once things start sorting themselves out during the season and the Celtics see if Wallace, Humphries and Bass are playing well enough to attract a possible contender looking to beef up due to injuries or lack of player performance, then I think trades will happen. Until then,

Ladies and Gentlemen, your 2013-14 Boston Celtics

Rondo/Pressey
Bradley/Lee/Bogans/Crawford/Brooks
Green/Wallace
Bass/Sullinger/Humphries/Olynyk
Faverani/Melo

[gar]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MtEmVsjp8V4

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NVzXtN-Pw0g

i liked shav and wilcox 

TP

Wilcox and Rondo had a nice chemistry. He took longer than Green to come back from the surgery; but if he can get back to 100% we need someone like him who can run the floor. Sully is not a fleet footed high flyer - Wilcox is.

I think Danny is letting him see if he can find a better deal(with more playing time). If not I hope he is back.

[Cman]

I really think what we see is what we will get for most of this year. once things start sorting themselves out during the season and the Celtics see if Wallace, Humphries and Bass are playing well enough to attract a possible contender looking to beef up due to injuries or lack of player performance, then I think trades will happen. Until then,

Ladies and Gentlemen, your 2013-14 Boston Celtics

Rondo/Pressey
Bradley/Lee/Bogans/Crawford/Brooks
Green/Wallace
Bass/Sullinger/Humphries/Olynyk
Faverani/Melo

Pretty much.
The only question is whether the Cs need to shed a bit more salary to get under. Not sure if the Shav cut got them far enough...

[Mazingerz]

I really think what we see is what we will get for most of this year. once things start sorting themselves out during the season and the Celtics see if Wallace, Humphries and Bass are playing well enough to attract a possible contender looking to beef up due to injuries or lack of player performance, then I think trades will happen. Until then,

Ladies and Gentlemen, your 2013-14 Boston Celtics

Rondo/Pressey
Bradley/Lee/Bogans/Crawford/Brooks
Green/Wallace
Bass/Sullinger/Humphries/Olynyk
Faverani/Melo

Pretty much.
The only question is whether the Cs need to shed a bit more salary to get under. Not sure if the Shav cut got them far enough...

So how much does the Celtics cap look now with shav gone? Are we under the cap?

[nickagneta]

I really think what we see is what we will get for most of this year. once things start sorting themselves out during the season and the Celtics see if Wallace, Humphries and Bass are playing well enough to attract a possible contender looking to beef up due to injuries or lack of player performance, then I think trades will happen. Until then,

Ladies and Gentlemen, your 2013-14 Boston Celtics

Rondo/Pressey
Bradley/Lee/Bogans/Crawford/Brooks
Green/Wallace
Bass/Sullinger/Humphries/Olynyk
Faverani/Melo

Pretty much.
The only question is whether the Cs need to shed a bit more salary to get under. Not sure if the Shav cut got them far enough...

They do need to cut a bit more but could do that mid season. I think a likely scenario would be a contender having an injury and needing a PF or SG and the C's moving Bass and/or Lee.

For instance, if Boozer went down in Chicago and Rose was completely healthy, a Bass and Pressey for Hinrich and Teague trade works. C's save $2 million this year and dump Bass' $6.9 million owed next year.

Another possibility is perhaps Mike Miller is so hurt he can't play for Memphis and so a very good Memphis team decides it needs a SG who can hit the three. A Lee/Pressey for Bayless/Wroten trade works and the C's cut more salary to get under the tax and again save some long term money.

Not saying these things will happen but something like this is what I see playing out.

[bfrombleacher]

I really think what we see is what we will get for most of this year. once things start sorting themselves out during the season and the Celtics see if Wallace, Humphries and Bass are playing well enough to attract a possible contender looking to beef up due to injuries or lack of player performance, then I think trades will happen. Until then,

Ladies and Gentlemen, your 2013-14 Boston Celtics

Rondo/Pressey
Bradley/Lee/Bogans/Crawford/Brooks
Green/Wallace
Bass/Sullinger/Humphries/Olynyk
Faverani/Melo

Pretty much.
The only question is whether the Cs need to shed a bit more salary to get under. Not sure if the Shav cut got them far enough...

They do need to cut a bit more but could do that mid season. I think a likely scenario would be a contender having an injury and needing a PF or SG and the C's moving Bass and/or Lee.

For instance, if Boozer went down in Chicago and Rose was completely healthy, a Bass and Pressey for Hinrich and Teague trade works. C's save $2 million this year and dump Bass' $6.9 million owed next year.

Another possibility is perhaps Mike Miller is so hurt he can't play for Memphis and so a very good Memphis team decides it needs a SG who can hit the three. A Lee/Pressey for Bayless/Wroten trade works and the C's cut more salary to get under the tax and again save some long term money.

Not saying these things will happen but something like this is what I see playing out.

A simple Jordan Crawfish for a late 2nd rounder works too.

Cutting Shav was sensible.

[nickagneta]

I really think what we see is what we will get for most of this year. once things start sorting themselves out during the season and the Celtics see if Wallace, Humphries and Bass are playing well enough to attract a possible contender looking to beef up due to injuries or lack of player performance, then I think trades will happen. Until then,

Ladies and Gentlemen, your 2013-14 Boston Celtics

Rondo/Pressey
Bradley/Lee/Bogans/Crawford/Brooks
Green/Wallace
Bass/Sullinger/Humphries/Olynyk
Faverani/Melo

Pretty much.
The only question is whether the Cs need to shed a bit more salary to get under. Not sure if the Shav cut got them far enough...

They do need to cut a bit more but could do that mid season. I think a likely scenario would be a contender having an injury and needing a PF or SG and the C's moving Bass and/or Lee.

For instance, if Boozer went down in Chicago and Rose was completely healthy, a Bass and Pressey for Hinrich and Teague trade works. C's save $2 million this year and dump Bass' $6.9 million owed next year.

Another possibility is perhaps Mike Miller is so hurt he can't play for Memphis and so a very good Memphis team decides it needs a SG who can hit the three. A Lee/Pressey for Bayless/Wroten trade works and the C's cut more salary to get under the tax and again save some long term money.

Not saying these things will happen but something like this is what I see playing out.

A simple Jordan Crawfish for a late 2nd rounder works too.

Cutting Shav was sensible.

I am sure if danny could have found a team with cap space to move Crawford's $2 million contract, he would have done so already. The more likely scenario is a mid season trade where a contender needs a piece and is willing to take on salary and maybe pay some tax money for a chance at a deep playoff run.

It all comes down to the other team having a need. No team that is currently under the cap needs Jordan Crawford, that is for sure.

[Yogi]

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MtEmVsjp8V4

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NVzXtN-Pw0g

i liked shav and wilcox 

TP

Wilcox and Rondo had a nice chemistry. He took longer than Green to come back from the surgery; but if he can get back to 100% we need someone like him who can run the floor. Sully is not a fleet footed high flyer - Wilcox is.

I think Danny is letting him see if he can find a better deal(with more playing time). If not I hope he is back.

Faverani and Humphries are better than Wilcox.

[bfrombleacher]

I really think what we see is what we will get for most of this year. once things start sorting themselves out during the season and the Celtics see if Wallace, Humphries and Bass are playing well enough to attract a possible contender looking to beef up due to injuries or lack of player performance, then I think trades will happen. Until then,

Ladies and Gentlemen, your 2013-14 Boston Celtics

Rondo/Pressey
Bradley/Lee/Bogans/Crawford/Brooks
Green/Wallace
Bass/Sullinger/Humphries/Olynyk
Faverani/Melo

Pretty much.
The only question is whether the Cs need to shed a bit more salary to get under. Not sure if the Shav cut got them far enough...

They do need to cut a bit more but could do that mid season. I think a likely scenario would be a contender having an injury and needing a PF or SG and the C's moving Bass and/or Lee.

For instance, if Boozer went down in Chicago and Rose was completely healthy, a Bass and Pressey for Hinrich and Teague trade works. C's save $2 million this year and dump Bass' $6.9 million owed next year.

Another possibility is perhaps Mike Miller is so hurt he can't play for Memphis and so a very good Memphis team decides it needs a SG who can hit the three. A Lee/Pressey for Bayless/Wroten trade works and the C's cut more salary to get under the tax and again save some long term money.

Not saying these things will happen but something like this is what I see playing out.

A simple Jordan Crawfish for a late 2nd rounder works too.

Cutting Shav was sensible.

I am sure if danny could have found a team with cap space to move Crawford's $2 million contract, he would have done so already. The more likely scenario is a mid season trade where a contender needs a piece and is willing to take on salary and maybe pay some tax money for a chance at a deep playoff run.

It all comes down to the other team having a need. No team that is currently under the cap needs Jordan Crawford, that is for sure.

What I mean is come deadline, Jordan Crawford could probably be moved quite easily.

[nickagneta]

I really think what we see is what we will get for most of this year. once things start sorting themselves out during the season and the Celtics see if Wallace, Humphries and Bass are playing well enough to attract a possible contender looking to beef up due to injuries or lack of player performance, then I think trades will happen. Until then,

Ladies and Gentlemen, your 2013-14 Boston Celtics

Rondo/Pressey
Bradley/Lee/Bogans/Crawford/Brooks
Green/Wallace
Bass/Sullinger/Humphries/Olynyk
Faverani/Melo

Pretty much.
The only question is whether the Cs need to shed a bit more salary to get under. Not sure if the Shav cut got them far enough...

They do need to cut a bit more but could do that mid season. I think a likely scenario would be a contender having an injury and needing a PF or SG and the C's moving Bass and/or Lee.

For instance, if Boozer went down in Chicago and Rose was completely healthy, a Bass and Pressey for Hinrich and Teague trade works. C's save $2 million this year and dump Bass' $6.9 million owed next year.

Another possibility is perhaps Mike Miller is so hurt he can't play for Memphis and so a very good Memphis team decides it needs a SG who can hit the three. A Lee/Pressey for Bayless/Wroten trade works and the C's cut more salary to get under the tax and again save some long term money.

Not saying these things will happen but something like this is what I see playing out.

A simple Jordan Crawfish for a late 2nd rounder works too.

Cutting Shav was sensible.

I am sure if danny could have found a team with cap space to move Crawford's $2 million contract, he would have done so already. The more likely scenario is a mid season trade where a contender needs a piece and is willing to take on salary and maybe pay some tax money for a chance at a deep playoff run.

It all comes down to the other team having a need. No team that is currently under the cap needs Jordan Crawford, that is for sure.

What I mean is come deadline, Jordan Crawford could probably be moved quite easily.

Only to teams under the cap. Team over the cap have to send back a tax exception Crawford fits into or salary within 25% of Crawford's. That isn't going to be enough savings to get under the tax level. And the team is going to have to have a need at SG. If they have a need at SG my guess is almost every GM in the league would prefer Lee. And since Lee's salary is over $5 million, a trade him of Lee, for a player that would save the Celtics the over million dollars the C's need to lower their salary to get under the tax level, is doable and much more likely

[gar]

Given the salary cap discussions, I am assuming those numbers don't include Wilcox's Salary (Vet. min.). If so would make it hard to bring him back.

From who we started with last year:
Rondo, Bradley, Lee, Green, Bass, Sully

Mid Season addition / D League:
Crawford, Melo

New this year:
Olynyk, Faverani, Wallace, Brooks, Humphries, Bogan, Pressey


Finally sinking in - First step in rebuilding is gutting.

[bfrombleacher]

I really think what we see is what we will get for most of this year. once things start sorting themselves out during the season and the Celtics see if Wallace, Humphries and Bass are playing well enough to attract a possible contender looking to beef up due to injuries or lack of player performance, then I think trades will happen. Until then,

Ladies and Gentlemen, your 2013-14 Boston Celtics

Rondo/Pressey
Bradley/Lee/Bogans/Crawford/Brooks
Green/Wallace
Bass/Sullinger/Humphries/Olynyk
Faverani/Melo

Pretty much.
The only question is whether the Cs need to shed a bit more salary to get under. Not sure if the Shav cut got them far enough...

They do need to cut a bit more but could do that mid season. I think a likely scenario would be a contender having an injury and needing a PF or SG and the C's moving Bass and/or Lee.

For instance, if Boozer went down in Chicago and Rose was completely healthy, a Bass and Pressey for Hinrich and Teague trade works. C's save $2 million this year and dump Bass' $6.9 million owed next year.

Another possibility is perhaps Mike Miller is so hurt he can't play for Memphis and so a very good Memphis team decides it needs a SG who can hit the three. A Lee/Pressey for Bayless/Wroten trade works and the C's cut more salary to get under the tax and again save some long term money.

Not saying these things will happen but something like this is what I see playing out.

A simple Jordan Crawfish for a late 2nd rounder works too.

Cutting Shav was sensible.

I am sure if danny could have found a team with cap space to move Crawford's $2 million contract, he would have done so already. The more likely scenario is a mid season trade where a contender needs a piece and is willing to take on salary and maybe pay some tax money for a chance at a deep playoff run.

It all comes down to the other team having a need. No team that is currently under the cap needs Jordan Crawford, that is for sure.

What I mean is come deadline, Jordan Crawford could probably be moved quite easily.

Only to teams under the cap. Team over the cap have to send back a tax exception Crawford fits into or salary within 25% of Crawford's. That isn't going to be enough savings to get under the tax level. And the team is going to have to have a need at SG. If they have a need at SG my guess is almost every GM in the league would prefer Lee. And since Lee's salary is over $5 million, a trade him of Lee, for a player that would save the Celtics the over million dollars the C's need to lower their salary to get under the tax level, is doable and much more likely

My bad.

They could still trade for less salary right?

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

I really think what we see is what we will get for most of this year. once things start sorting themselves out during the season and the Celtics see if Wallace, Humphries and Bass are playing well enough to attract a possible contender looking to beef up due to injuries or lack of player performance, then I think trades will happen. Until then,

Ladies and Gentlemen, your 2013-14 Boston Celtics

Rondo/Pressey
Bradley/Lee/Bogans/Crawford/Brooks
Green/Wallace
Bass/Sullinger/Humphries/Olynyk
Faverani/Melo

My guess is we'll be seeing a lot of Bass and Humphries at C. Woohoo, smallball!!!