Terrence Jones arrested for stomping on a homeless man

[Yogi]

I would take it they'd have the homeless guys' version of the incident as well.

You don't think a homeless guy who's about to land a huge settlement has an incentive to lie?

[GreenNote]

Can ANYONE on here please give me ONE possible reason that the policeman would have to make up this story?

Terrence Jones is black.

So what if he's black? What does that have to with it?

[Yogi]

Can ANYONE on here please give me ONE possible reason that the policeman would have to make up this story?

Terrence Jones is black.

So what if he's black? What does that have to with it?

In a theoretical sense or in the real world?

[esel1000]

Can ANYONE on here please give me ONE possible reason that the policeman would have to make up this story?

Terrence Jones is black.

So what if he's black? What does that have to with it?

In a theoretical sense or in the real world?

That's just speculation though. Besides even if the cop is racist Jones is also high profile, making something like this up puts the officer in a potentially bad situation. Jones isn't just your average black guy.

Also, if the cop wanted to frame Jones, how did he think up this story out of thin air? A little random dont you think?

[EJPLAYA]

I would take it they'd have the homeless guys' version of the incident as well.

You don't think a homeless guy who's about to land a huge settlement has an incentive to lie?

So now everyone is a liar except for the NBA player. And that is obviously according to you because of his skin color. THIS is why race relations are deteriorating once again in this country. How about some responsibility for ones actions instead of claiming race victimization. The homeless man would have been in a better position to land a huge settlement if he had NOT said anything about it publicly. Otherwise what's the point? The damage to his reputation has already been done.

Sad that the homeless guy now is the criminal and the cop is the racist liar and the NBA player who is clearly a worthless piece of trash is the victim...

[Emmette Bryant]

I heard that the boys are looking for a new droog.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWLByMshYIU

[Yogi]

I would take it they'd have the homeless guys' version of the incident as well.

You don't think a homeless guy who's about to land a huge settlement has an incentive to lie?

So now everyone is a liar except for the NBA player.

I never that the NBA player is not a liar.  The fact is most people have an incentive for lying.  You shouldn't accept everything you read at face value. 

As for race, you asked for one POSSIBLE reason a cop might lie.  I never stated that was in fact the case here. 

[EJPLAYA]

I would take it they'd have the homeless guys' version of the incident as well.

You don't think a homeless guy who's about to land a huge settlement has an incentive to lie?

So now everyone is a liar except for the NBA player.

I never that the NBA player is not a liar.  The fact is most people have an incentive for lying.  You shouldn't accept everything you read at face value. 

As for race, you asked for one POSSIBLE reason a cop might lie.  I never stated that was in fact the case here.

What a horrible world you must believe you live in. Most people actually are GOOD people who want to do the right thing and help others. Most cops are GOOD people who chose that profession because they want to help protect and serve others. I do not accept everything I read at face value, but when a cop who witnessed the event and the homeless man tell the exact same story I err on the side of believing they are telling the truth. Man I hope you have a better life experience going forward than you've clearly had so far.

[Yogi]

So now everyone is a liar except for the NBA player. And that is obviously according to you because of his skin color. THIS is why race relations are deteriorating once again in this country. How about some responsibility for ones actions instead of claiming race victimization. The homeless man would have been in a better position to land a huge settlement if he had NOT said anything about it publicly. Otherwise what's the point? The damage to his reputation has already been done.

Sad that the homeless guy now is the criminal and the cop is the racist liar and the NBA player who is clearly a worthless piece of trash is the victim...

I've highlighted the parts that are completely wrong, or bear no resemblance to anything I said. 

"THIS is why race relations are deteriorating once again in this country."  Here is an example of an outrageous claim that has no basis in reality.

Based on an unverified sentence you read online you made the conclusion "the NBA player who is clearly a worthless piece of trash," but according to you, the equivalent unverified claims that "the cop is racist" or "the homeless man is a liar" are so outrageous that it makes you "sad."

[KGs Knee]

Well, before we all go casting this guy as some sort of "scum of the earth", just remember he is a young man, who was likely rather impaired at the time.

I don't mean to excuse his actions, or diminish the dastardly nature of them, but they should be taken in context.  Fact is, immature, drunk persons do stupid things every day.

Should Jones be punished, absolutely.  Should he be excoriated, and made out to be the biggest of loser ever, no.  Quite frankly, I'm more interested in how he handles the situation from here.

If Jones owns up to this, apologizes, and shows he's taking steps to learn from this and become a better person, I'd be willing to chalk this up to youthful indiscretion.  Absent that, sure, his character probably needs to be seriously called into question.

[EJPLAYA]

So now everyone is a liar except for the NBA player. And that is obviously according to you because of his skin color. THIS is why race relations are deteriorating once again in this country. How about some responsibility for ones actions instead of claiming race victimization. The homeless man would have been in a better position to land a huge settlement if he had NOT said anything about it publicly. Otherwise what's the point? The damage to his reputation has already been done.

Sad that the homeless guy now is the criminal and the cop is the racist liar and the NBA player who is clearly a worthless piece of trash is the victim...

I've highlighted the parts that are completely wrong, or bear no resemblance to anything I said. 

"THIS is why race relations are deteriorating once again in this country."  Here is an example of an outrageous claim that has no basis in reality.

Based on an unverified sentence you read online you made the conclusion "the NBA player who is clearly a worthless piece of trash," but according to you, the equivalent unverified claims that "the cop is racist" or "the homeless man is a liar" are so outrageous that it makes you "sad."

Try and back away from it all you want, but your reaction was to disbelieve them and say you needed more "proof" because cops were known to be liars and the reason YOU threw out there was because the guy was black. That the homeless man was wanting to score a big payday so that is why HE would lie... Come on. You don't like the way you look in the discussion so now you're trying to turn it around. If the first thing thrown out there wasn't race, then we wouldn't have as big of an issue surrounding it. YOU threw it out there. Own it.

[KGs Knee]

Also, why do things like this always have to devolve into a "race relations" debate?  It's nonsense, and shouldn't have anything to do with the topic.

Come on guys.

[EJPLAYA]

Well, before we all go casting this guy as some sort of "scum of the earth", just remember he is a young man, who was likely rather impaired at the time.

I don't mean to excuse his actions, or diminish the dastardly nature of them, but they should be taken in context.  Fact is, immature, drunk persons do stupid things every day.

Should Jones be punished, absolutely.  Should he be excoriated, and made out to be the biggest of loser ever, no.  Quite frankly, I'm more interested in how he handles the situation from here.

If Jones owns up to this, apologizes, and shows he's taking steps to learn from this and become a better person, I'd be willing to chalk this up to youthful indiscretion.  Absent that, sure, his character probably needs to be seriously called into question.

Alcohol makes you less inhibited from doing the things you would like to do, it doesn't make you a completely different person. Sorry. The guy is scum. Drunks don't just get a wild hair to stomp down a homeless guy.

[Yogi]

Try and back away from it all you want, but your reaction was to disbelieve them and say you needed more "proof" because cops were known to be liars and the reason YOU threw out there was because the guy was black. That the homeless man was wanting to score a big payday so that is why HE would lie... Come on. You don't like the way you look in the discussion so now you're trying to turn it around. If the first thing thrown out there wasn't race, then we wouldn't have as big of an issue surrounding it. YOU threw it out there. Own it.

1. I cannot back away from your incorrect assumptions.
2. Terrence Jones plead not guilty.  Someone is lying here.  Chances are two or three people are lying.
3. All three parties might have a reason to lie.
4. Racism is a very real part of our existence, whether you choose to acknowledge it or not.  It may or may not have been at play in this particular incident.
5. 13.7% of the U.S. population is black.  39.4% of the prison population is black, and that is excluding hispanic blacks.  Hispanics make up another 20.6%.  Obviously it is not irrational to suspect that race played a part.

[danglertx]

I'm just going to throw this out there, but how do we know the homeless guy wasn't black, or the cop for that matter?

I also don't buy the point of view that he was drinking and if he apologizes it is OK.  What?  Drinking doesn't make you a different person, it reveals the person you are.  And to attack a homeless man just because you "think you can" is pretty revealing about a person's character.