As good? Absolutely not. However, I think they will work together in similar ways that Z-Bo and Gasol do. If our duo turns out to be a poor man's Z-Bo and Gasol I will be ecstatic.

Quote from: triboy16f on July 26, 2013, 11:27:40 AM

Lots of similarities between the two duos. Not really athletic, quick, but high iq, motor, vocal on the court, pushing their own guys around, teamwork, passing,  hi lo game

Also you can make a comparison with sully to zbo and olynyk to gasol in terms of how the team can utilize them in a game and their ind skills.

Can sully/olynyk become as good ?

This is where you forget to mention Z-Bo/Gasol are one of the two best defensive duos.

Sullinger has a good defensive rating but Kelly has always been known for having weak D.

As good zbo and gasol are by themselves without allen and conley they r prob in trouble with pnr etc. Luckily we have rondo and allen in the backcourt also. someone also mentioned b4 oly and sully could be more like milsap/jefferson(which is worse case imo) or more likely case boozer/okur

I don't see either Sully or KO ever being as good defensively as Gasol.  KO might one day be able to score as prolifically (though probably not in quite the same way) as Z-Bo.  That's a pretty lofty goal, though.

Ultimately I think if we hold onto Sully and KO long-term one of them will be the sixth man coming off the bench and the other will be starting next to a bigger, longer, more athletic center who can anchor the defense.

Dude do you watch the NBA? Gasol was DPOY last year and KO is horrible on the defensive end. The KO/Sully experiment is going to be awful, its a lot more like David West and Dirk then Z-Bo and Gasol. David West and Dirk would score a lot of points, but be the least imposing frontcourt in the NBA.

bottom line KO is NO Gasol...maybe he's more comparable to Pau on the defensive end. 

Dude do you watch the NBA? Gasol was DPOY last year and KO is horrible on the defensive end. The KO/Sully experiment is going to be awful, its a lot more like David West and Dirk then Z-Bo and Gasol. David West and Dirk would score a lot of points, but be the least imposing frontcourt in the NBA.

bottom line KO is NO Gasol...maybe he's more comparable to Pau on the defensive end. 

Kelly is so bad he led pf/c defensive duties in gonzaga and the team had the best record in all of college ball during the regular season.

He is so bad that during summer leagues the guys he was guarding shot on avg 40 or less fg per?

Quote from: triboy16f on July 26, 2013, 12:07:30 PM

Quote from: Bosstown on July 26, 2013, 11:58:55 AM

Dude do you watch the NBA? Gasol was DPOY last year and KO is horrible on the defensive end. The KO/Sully experiment is going to be awful, its a lot more like David West and Dirk then Z-Bo and Gasol. David West and Dirk would score a lot of points, but be the least imposing frontcourt in the NBA.

bottom line KO is NO Gasol...maybe he's more comparable to Pau on the defensive end. 

Kelly is so bad he led pf/c defensive duties in gonzaga and the team had the best record in all of college ball during the regular season.

He is so bad that during summer leagues the guys he was guarding shot on avg 40 or less fg per?

When KO wins DPOY, i will be president. Judging his D against Summer League and college is laughable. He's a 4, he's not going to be able to hang with athletic power forwards in the league, at least starters. He's a future sixth man at most.

His skillset is not Gasol, he's more Dirk then anything.

I am not sure about the 6th man part or not (it depeonds on how good his offense ends up being), but you are right about his defense.  I think he can be a solid enough team defender, using his intelligence.  But, he just doesn't have the physical attributes to be an above average overall defender.  He is not quick enough on the perimeter, and he is not long, or strong enough inside. 

Quote from: Bosstown on July 26, 2013, 12:13:20 PM

Quote from: triboy16f on July 26, 2013, 12:07:30 PM

Quote from: Bosstown on July 26, 2013, 11:58:55 AM

Dude do you watch the NBA? Gasol was DPOY last year and KO is horrible on the defensive end. The KO/Sully experiment is going to be awful, its a lot more like David West and Dirk then Z-Bo and Gasol. David West and Dirk would score a lot of points, but be the least imposing frontcourt in the NBA.

bottom line KO is NO Gasol...maybe he's more comparable to Pau on the defensive end. 

Kelly is so bad he led pf/c defensive duties in gonzaga and the team had the best record in all of college ball during the regular season.

He is so bad that during summer leagues the guys he was guarding shot on avg 40 or less fg per?

When KO wins DPOY, i will be president. Judging his D against Summer League and college is laughable. He's a 4, he's not going to be able to hang with athletic power forwards in the league, at least starters. He's a future sixth man at most.

His skillset is not Gasol, he's more Dirk then anything.

Who says olynyk has to win the dpy award to be a good defender?

When marc gasol was out of shape when he first came into the league did anyone imagine he will even be a decent defender?

No one said that, I just think the zbo/gasol comparison is terrible.

Marc was always known as a banger and has the body of a good defender.

He's a strong physical guy who is [dang] near 260-270, with a solid wingspan and pretty good feet on the defensive end.

KO is 235, with t-rex arms and decent mobility. Now if he becomes as good as Gasol, i will be ecstatic, but i'm not holding my breath.