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wallace, bass, jcraw, melo odd players out?
« on: July 15, 2013, 05:44:22 PM »

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That would really help settle our lineup.

Could wallace be amnestied/waived? I really doubt anyone will want his contract for his capabilities. Humphries is a decent player and has nice expiring contract. With the signing of vito def means either melo or bass is gone. Melo could just be shunned to the d league. Lastly with bogans, brooks plus lee looking like he is staying, jcraw is the odd man out.

I predict team can somehow keep iverson and pressey should make the team as the backup pg.

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« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2013, 05:52:22 PM »

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.... Melo could just be shunned to the d league....

raises a couple basic rule questions for me:

Doesnt Melo then count against out 15 man roster? Or is there a way to waive Melo, and assign him to D-League, if not picked up, without taking a roster spot?

Similar question about Colton Iverson and the earlier speculation of his playing in Europe...can we retain his rights, have him play in Europe, and not lose a roster spot, at this stage?

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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2013, 05:53:12 PM »

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That would really help settle our lineup.

Could wallace be amnestied/waived? I really doubt anyone will want his contract for his capabilities. Humphries is a decent player and has nice expiring contract. With the signing of vito def means either melo or bass is gone. Melo could just be shunned to the d league. Lastly with bogans, brooks plus lee looking like he is staying, jcraw is the odd man out.

I predict team can somehow keep iverson and pressey should make the team as the backup pg.

Melo will be sent to D-League most likely.

I, too believe Crawford isn't staying. Bradley is a building block, Lee has been at the training camp, Bogans is here to stay for now, and Brooks is someone DA has been fond of.

Wallace cannot be amnestied. Even if we could amnesty him, a team cannot amnesty someone right away, the only team that can amnesty him is the original team that had him. Humphries will be kept till the trade deadline to provide a great looking package, and Bass will also be out probably.

Bass isn't a bad contract, and he can still perform well, especially with solid 1 on 1 defense.

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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2013, 05:56:23 PM »

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a player can only be amnestied by the team that originally signed him, not a later team who receives him in a trade. next, a player can only amnestied if they were signed BEFORE the current cba.

none of the net-to-celtic clan can be amnestied by the celtics.

next, putting melo back in the D league does not remove him from the 15 man roster. he simply plays there. if the celtics keep melo it might make more sense to have him suffer and learn in the nba this year. and if the win-loss record suffers, so what?

this year is a chance to see what, if anything, the youngsters can bring to the table. let's see who can learn to play in the nba and who cant.
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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2013, 05:57:18 PM »

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a player can only be amnestied by the team that originally signed him, not a later team who receives him in a trade. next, a player can only amnestied if they were signed BEFORE the current cba.

none of the net-to-celtic clan can be waived by the celtics.

next, putting melo back in the D league does not remove him from the 15 man roster. he simply plays there. if the celtics keep melo it might make more sense to have him suffer and learn in the nba this year. and if the win-loss record suffers, so what?

this year is a chance to see what, if anything, the youngsters can bring to the table. let's see who can learn to play in the nba and who cant.

Don't get why we signed the Spanish center... Now we have a even worse log jam every where at the entire roster except for back up PG.
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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2013, 05:58:35 PM »

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we're tanking, what does it matter if the roster isnt balanced?

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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2013, 05:59:45 PM »

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we definitely need to trim some of the fat on this roster. would love to see hump, melo, crawford and wallace go, and i think bass and lee are necessary to go. the whole we are a playoff team is ridiculous because we are not winning it with this roster. get some good picks in the draft and start making a better lineup after. i dont want to lose games but i dont want to win enough games to be in no mans land
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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2013, 06:01:35 PM »

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a player can only be amnestied by the team that originally signed him, not a later team who receives him in a trade. next, a player can only amnestied if they were signed BEFORE the current cba.

none of the net-to-celtic clan can be waived by the celtics.

next, putting melo back in the D league does not remove him from the 15 man roster. he simply plays there. if the celtics keep melo it might make more sense to have him suffer and learn in the nba this year. and if the win-loss record suffers, so what?

this year is a chance to see what, if anything, the youngsters can bring to the table. let's see who can learn to play in the nba and who cant.

Don't get why we signed the Spanish center... Now we have a even worse log jam every where at the entire roster except for back up PG.

good question on the faverani signing. maybe ainge actually sees a player he thinks can in the nba. when you see such players why not sign them?

faverani could also be viewed by ainge a couple of ways:

- as an actual young addition to the celtics, a building block for the future.

- as an nba capable player who can be turned into an asset for a future trade.

either way works for me.

p.s. is faveroni spanish or brazilian? it might be good to know seeing as the don't even speak the same language.
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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2013, 06:03:42 PM »

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a player can only be amnestied by the team that originally signed him, not a later team who receives him in a trade. next, a player can only amnestied if they were signed BEFORE the current cba.

none of the net-to-celtic clan can be waived by the celtics.

next, putting melo back in the D league does not remove him from the 15 man roster. he simply plays there. if the celtics keep melo it might make more sense to have him suffer and learn in the nba this year. and if the win-loss record suffers, so what?

this year is a chance to see what, if anything, the youngsters can bring to the table. let's see who can learn to play in the nba and who cant.

Don't get why we signed the Spanish center... Now we have a even worse log jam every where at the entire roster except for back up PG.

I didn't get it at first but he must be good. Spurs were also looking at him and he could of chose the celts just bc he would have no playing time with the spurs

From the scouting reports and clips, he looks promising. Definitely balances our front with a guy with legit center size, wingspan, athleticism, shotblocking and rebounding skills hence a true center.

BTW for the contract experts, can Wallace be then waived?? What is the problem with waiving a player with his contract?/

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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2013, 06:07:02 PM »

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a player can only be amnestied by the team that originally signed him, not a later team who receives him in a trade. next, a player can only amnestied if they were signed BEFORE the current cba.

none of the net-to-celtic clan can be waived by the celtics.

next, putting melo back in the D league does not remove him from the 15 man roster. he simply plays there. if the celtics keep melo it might make more sense to have him suffer and learn in the nba this year. and if the win-loss record suffers, so what?

this year is a chance to see what, if anything, the youngsters can bring to the table. let's see who can learn to play in the nba and who cant.

Don't get why we signed the Spanish center... Now we have a even worse log jam every where at the entire roster except for back up PG.

I didn't get it at first but he must be good. Spurs were also looking at him and he could of chose the celts just bc he would have no playing time there.

From the scouting reports and clips, he looks promising. Definitely balances our front with a guy with legit center size, wingspan, athleticism, block shots, rebound hence a true center.

BTW for the contract experts, can Wallace be then waived?? What is the problem with waiving a player with his contract?/

You can't waive him. Same rules for amnesty.

I mean Faverani looks like he has potential.

we're tanking, what does it matter if the roster isnt balanced?

Because that is completely stupid? You should be looking to develop players with potential. There are 4 players there off the bat that should be traded. And those 4 have absolutely no trade value albeit a couple 2nd rounders or bad contracts in return.
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« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2013, 06:27:53 PM »

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Don't get why we signed the Spanish center... Now we have a even worse log jam every where at the entire roster except for back up PG.

Probably had something to do with Fab Melo being the only actual center under contract, with second-round pick Colton Iverson a maybe.  I really wasn't looking forward to seeing Brandon Bass playing 30 minutes per game as the center.
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« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2013, 06:28:59 PM »

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BTW for the contract experts, can Wallace be then waived?? What is the problem with waiving a player with his contract?/

Wallace can be waived, but his contract is guaranteed and would count against the cap.
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« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2013, 06:33:10 PM »

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Crawford and Brookes are probably both trade bait.

Either of them fill the role of a ball handler who's good for off-the-bench scoring, though, and we kept Barbosa and JET on the squad last year.
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« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2013, 06:42:08 PM »

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Melo is hitting the D-league once again.

Wallace, Bass, & Crawford will all be packaged up & sent to NY for Amare Stoudemire.

The Knicks shed salary and get deeper.

Ainge gets Stoudemires deal, clears up his roster, & Amare plays limited minutes opening up more time for Olynyk & Sullinger.  Once Amare opts in on the final year of the huge contract, Ainge uses the expiring deal as just another trade asset.  He turns Wallaces 3 year deal into Amare's 2 year deal.

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« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2013, 06:52:39 PM »

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Wallace isn't an odd man out...he's a shoe in for the backup SF spot, since the only other SFs we have are Green (who will start) and Joseph.

Unless we can find another replacement SF (I'dbe happy enough with Puetrus or Marquis to be honest) we need him.

If I'm Danny Crawford, Lee, Joseph, Bass are gone.

Depth chart is..

Rondo / free agent PG / Pressey
Bradley/ Brooks / Bogans
Green / Wallace / Bogans
Sully / Olynyk / Wallace
Humphries / Brazillian guy / Iverson