Brazilian center agrees to 3 yr deal with C's

[nickagneta]

Never seen him play. Guessing 99% of Celticsblog and people posting here haven't either. So I will reserve judgment on him until he actually is in a Cs uniform playing. He could be good. He could be a total stiff. Guess we will find out.

[Moranis]

3 years, 6 million is apparently the deal.

[nickagneta]

So I was completely wrong about the original foreign reports that discussed the Celtics interest in this guy. I haven't read anything about the contract except what Moranis just posted but if its 3 years guaranteed and he's not a complete stiff, that's pretty good. If the last two years are non-guaranteed. Even better.

[vjcsmoke]

We now have the 3 headed monster in Melo, Iverson, and this Brazilian center...i rather have Mark Blount back

Rofl.  Hands of Stone Mark Blount?  6 years for 41m dollars Mark Blount?  Hell no!  I don't care how bad Fav or Melo are.  At least they are getting paid peanuts and can be let go without consequence if they don't work out.

[crispa1]

dump fab, end of story. the dude is just a stiff. after watching vito's video link, i'd rather have him than fab. that's a wasted 22nd 1st rd pick.

[Galeto]

Don't know much about him but looking at his stats, he is extremely turnover prone. Maybe that's one of the reasons why he hasn't become a starter or averaged more minutes. Unless he ameliorates this problem, his minutes may yo-yo.

[kozlodoev]

Never seen him play. Guessing 99% of Celticsblog and people posting here haven't either. So I will reserve judgment on him until he actually is in a Cs uniform playing. He could be good. He could be a total stiff. Guess we will find out.

I think the fact that he's a 25-year-old who has had little success in a top professional league (one decent year in the Spanish second tier league isn't really much different from dominating the NBDL) makes it fairly safe to dispense judgement. I can't think of anyone who came to the NBA with his age/credentials who went off to have any sort of a career on this side of the pond.

[LooseCannon]

If I had to guess, I'd say that I expect to look about as useful as Semih Erden did as a rookie, although I expect him to be useful in different ways.

[kozlodoev]

If I had to guess, I'd say that I expect to look about as useful as Semih Erden did as a rookie, although I expect him to be useful in different ways.

Well, Erden suddenly didn't look as good when he wasn't playing alongside Garnett, so consider that, too. 

[carlucho]

People ,I need to clarify something about Faverani.The theory that he was a bad rebounder and that he was not a starter because he played only 17 minutes is wrong.In Europe teams can have 10 or more foreign players,but they can use 3 at the same time.That is the reason why he played 17 minutes,in his team Valencia 14 players played 12 minutes or more per game.About the rebounds the leading rebounder in the Spanish league was 6.2 rebounds per game.The system is very controlled an teams usually shoot after 20 seconds and the time of games is 40 minutes not 48 like in the NBA.

[LooseCannon]

If I had to guess, I'd say that I expect to look about as useful as Semih Erden did as a rookie, although I expect him to be useful in different ways.

Well, Erden suddenly didn't look as good when he wasn't playing alongside Garnett, so consider that, too. 

Erden's performance in Cleveland suggested a guy who was an acceptable third-string center with some potential to be an adequate back-up.  He did have problems with injuries that make it difficult to evaluate him.

At this point, all I am hoping for is that he plays well enough that the Celtics aren't tempted to play Humphries or Bass for extended center minutes.  I think he has a decent shot at surpassing that low bar.

[snively]

People ,I need to clarify something about Faverani.The theory that he was a bad rebounder and that he was not a starter because he played only 17 minutes is wrong.In Europe teams can have 10 or more foreign players,but they can use 3 at the same time.That is the reason why he played 17 minutes,in his team Valencia 14 players played 12 minutes or more per game.About the rebounds the leading rebounder in the Spanish league was 6.2 rebounds per game.The system is very controlled an teams usually shoot after 20 seconds and the time of games is 40 minutes not 48 like in the NBA.

Thanks for the insight.

[erisred]

People ,I need to clarify something about Faverani.The theory that he was a bad rebounder and that he was not a starter because he played only 17 minutes is wrong.In Europe teams can have 10 or more foreign players,but they can use 3 at the same time.That is the reason why he played 17 minutes,in his team Valencia 14 players played 12 minutes or more per game.About the rebounds the leading rebounder in the Spanish league was 6.2 rebounds per game.The system is very controlled an teams usually shoot after 20 seconds and the time of games is 40 minutes not 48 like in the NBA.

Thanks for the insight.

Seconded!

Is the low minutes per game / high number of players per game consistent across the entire Spanish League? If so, then 17 mpg wouldn't be bad, nor would his other numbers, except turnovers which *are* high. It does appear that Faverani started for his team, so there *is* that.

Frankly, I have no idea what to really expect from Faverani in the NBA. I'll be shocked if he's really good, but stranger things have happened, and I'd be very happy to be shocked. We'll just have to wait to see how he does when he starts playing here.

[erisred]

I find the following excerpt from the article at http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2013/07/boston_celtics_center_vitor_fa.html incredibly interesting.

One Eastern Conference scout said Faverani "was never considered a defender/rebounder." A Western Conference scout said, "He is pretty athletic and likes to work on the defensive end of the floor. He has good feet and he is good in (pick-and-roll) defense."

The Eastern Conference scout said Faverani should work as the big man in pick and pop sets. The Western Conference scout said Faverani is good as the roll man in pick and rolls.

The Eastern Conference scout said offense is Faverani's greatest strength and the reason he signed in the NBA. The Western Conference scout said Faverani's offensive game remains raw and he's more valued as a banger.

It's like they are describing two entirely different guys. One says it's mostly Offense, the other says mostly Defense. One says he works as a pick and pop guy, while the other says pick and roll guy.

Just imagine if he's both: good at offense and defense, at both the pop and the roll, an athletic banger but still raw and developing his game. Of course, it could go the other way, too...

[carlucho]

A player who had a 59% in field goals cant be a bad offensive player.The situation with the minutes happens with every player in Spain and Europe for example Lucas Nogueira played 13 minutes and Nikola Mirotic who play in the league as a Spaniard because he is nationalized only played 21 minutes.In Rusia Nened Kristic played only 18 minutes.Tiago Spliter had a career 5 rebounds per game in Spain and he never played more than 18 minutes.