Celtics to sign Vitor Faverani...

[elcotte]

Likely one of Humprhies, Bass gone. Or who knows both.

Olynyk, Sullinger and maybe Iverson. Melo gone to the D league, Shav is just a cheerleader.

Danny starting to build a team for Stevens. He wants players that value teamwork, defense and have high bbiq.

Shav has some skills that Stevens can use.....more than a cheerleader.

[clover]

If this has been said already...my apologies in advance.

This guy will be a back-up to the developing Colton.
Bringing in a guy to help tank is ridiculous when Colton can help with that though I doubt that's the goal. Fab has shown a ceiling. He has hit his head on it in front of Danny a year after Danny saw a kid who needed a lot of work. A year later...the kid still needs a lot of work and we need a back up for our starting young center.

If...IF the role of the 5 is to be setting hard screens, boxing out and giving pause to small people who wanna drive and wrestle with the oppositions 5 then we already got that and with Perk doing not much more than what I just listed we won a title and didn't win one when he was lost for a game 7.

If the offense is some new unseen thing then I have no idea but if they keep it simple (defensive rotations aside...since THAT is the learning curve and would be on the Spanish guys shoulders as much as Coltons)....then this guy is the back-up they imagined Colton would be for Fab but that has been ditched since Fab should back Colton but I think Danny cuts bait in some way with Fab

I'm not sure about Fab, I could see the C's giving him another year to develop--especially if they are tanking for the draft.

But I agree with you on Iverson.  I don't think you could describe a more apt role-player starting center type to team with KO.  That is really extraordinary when you think that Danny landed him at #53--in the same draft in which he bagged Olynyk.

Still, he's a second rounder and I don't think he has any chance of starting at the start of, and probably at all, this season.  More likely he is the first big off the bench behind KO and Sully by midyear.

[paidthecost2betheboss]

If this has been said already...my apologies in advance.

This guy will be a back-up to the developing Colton.
Bringing in a guy to help tank is ridiculous when Colton can help with that though I doubt that's the goal. Fab has shown a ceiling. He has hit his head on it in front of Danny a year after Danny saw a kid who needed a lot of work. A year later...the kid still needs a lot of work and we need a back up for our starting young center.

If...IF the role of the 5 is to be setting hard screens, boxing out and giving pause to small people who wanna drive and wrestle with the oppositions 5 then we already got that and with Perk doing not much more than what I just listed we won a title and didn't win one when he was lost for a game 7.

If the offense is some new unseen thing then I have no idea but if they keep it simple (defensive rotations aside...since THAT is the learning curve and would be on the Spanish guys shoulders as much as Coltons)....then this guy is the back-up they imagined Colton would be for Fab but that has been ditched since Fab should back Colton but I think Danny cuts bait in some way with Fab

I'm not sure about Fab, I could see the C's giving him another year to develop--especially if they are tanking for the draft.

But I agree with you on Iverson.  I don't think you could describe a more apt role-player starting center type to team with KO.  That is really extraordinary when you think that Danny landed him at #53--in the same draft in which he bagged Olynyk.

Still, he's a second rounder and I don't think he has any chance of starting at the start of, and probably at all, this season.  More likely he is the first big off the bench behind KO and Sully by midyear.

I worry a bit about Sully as it seems his game could be impacted the most without K.G. I know the entire defense nosedived with K.G. off the floor but Sully really fell into a position where it was easy to play to his strengths. His height and lack of lift at the 5 is gonna be something to watch. Everybody talks about Rondo but Sully has a "tude". Seeing him handle adversity is going to be telling. Olynyk will thrive at the 4 so it's a short Sully or creative rotations at the 5 which is like a welcome mat for Colton who...like you said was bought at the 53rd. Danny really needed to do good this draft. It seems on 1st looks he did spectacular.

Sully.
This guy could be getting more posts aimed at him by mid year than Rondo.

[CFAN38]

If he is signed I like it,

He looks to have good size and mobility at center. I also like the fact that he seems to play above the rim.

His stats are good. He is only 25 playing in the top Euro league and averaging 9pt 5rb in 17 min. In comparison Tiago Splitter averaged 15pt 6.5rb in 28min in the same league at the same age. This stat comparison leads me to at least project Vitor as an average to above average rebounding center.

[LGC88]

Does it mean Shav is likely out? I would be disappointed in that case. Shav is good and he only want to work hard and be better. Give him minutes and he WILL get better. But he never get a chance to prove it. Sad...

[kozlodoev]

you gotta get your list updated eugen, most of those guys agreed to contracts already. You also conveniently skipped quoting my statement that most of those big men are not worth the money they are asking.

you also don't know if a number of those guys are better than Faverani. Jermaine Oneal? Seriously? Johan Petro? Ryan Hollins? I'd much rather pay a small salary to a younger guy with some potential and see what he's got.

Yes, but the list has Timofey Mozgov!!!

[eugen]

you gotta get your list updated eugen, most of those guys agreed to contracts already. You also conveniently skipped quoting my statement that most of those big men are not worth the money they are asking.

you also don't know if a number of those guys are better than Faverani. Jermaine Oneal? Seriously? Johan Petro? Ryan Hollins? I'd much rather pay a small salary to a younger guy with some potential and see what he's got.

I do not know what to say more. Your "passion" to defend DA in any way possible makes you to find yourself in trouble using your words. If this players like

Aldrich, Cole

Biedrins, Andris

Blair, DeJuan

Brown, Kwame

Bynum, Andrew

Collins, Jason


Dalembert, Samuel


Diop, DeSagana

Gray, Aaron

Hollins, Ryan

Mohammed, Nazr

Mozgov, Timofey

O'Neal, Jermaine

Okafor, Emeka

Pekovic, Nikola

Petro, Johan

Przybilla, Joel

Sacre, Robert

Splitter, Tiago

Stiemsma, Greg

Turiaf, Ronny
 
are not better than Faverani, a normal center of Euroleague, thats mean that Eurolegue is much stronger league than NBA...

[hpantazo]

you gotta get your list updated eugen, most of those guys agreed to contracts already. You also conveniently skipped quoting my statement that most of those big men are not worth the money they are asking.

you also don't know if a number of those guys are better than Faverani. Jermaine Oneal? Seriously? Johan Petro? Ryan Hollins? I'd much rather pay a small salary to a younger guy with some potential and see what he's got.

I do not know what to say more. Your "passion" to defend DA in any way possible makes you to find yourself in trouble using your words. If this players like

Aldrich, Cole

Biedrins, Andris

Blair, DeJuan

Brown, Kwame

Bynum, Andrew

Collins, Jason


Dalembert, Samuel


Diop, DeSagana

Gray, Aaron

Hollins, Ryan

Mohammed, Nazr

Mozgov, Timofey

O'Neal, Jermaine

Okafor, Emeka

Pekovic, Nikola

Petro, Johan

Przybilla, Joel

Sacre, Robert

Splitter, Tiago

Stiemsma, Greg

Turiaf, Ronny
 
are not better than Faverani, a normal center of Euroleague, thats mean that Eurolegue is much stronger league than NBA...

once again:

#1 half the guys you listed are no longer available

#2 they all want more money than they are worth

It's a matter of getting value. Would you rather pay a mediocre NBA vet the MLE so that your team can lose, or would you rather pay a very small amount of money to a young player who has potential to improve while your team still loses?

[steefp2]

you gotta get your list updated eugen, most of those guys agreed to contracts already. You also conveniently skipped quoting my statement that most of those big men are not worth the money they are asking.

you also don't know if a number of those guys are better than Faverani. Jermaine Oneal? Seriously? Johan Petro? Ryan Hollins? I'd much rather pay a small salary to a younger guy with some potential and see what he's got.

I do not know what to say more. Your "passion" to defend DA in any way possible makes you to find yourself in trouble using your words. If this players like

Aldrich, Cole

Biedrins, Andris

Blair, DeJuan

Brown, Kwame

Bynum, Andrew

Collins, Jason


Dalembert, Samuel


Diop, DeSagana

Gray, Aaron

Hollins, Ryan

Mohammed, Nazr

Mozgov, Timofey

O'Neal, Jermaine

Okafor, Emeka

Pekovic, Nikola

Petro, Johan

Przybilla, Joel

Sacre, Robert

Splitter, Tiago

Stiemsma, Greg

Turiaf, Ronny
 
are not better than Faverani, a normal center of Euroleague, thats mean that Eurolegue is much stronger league than NBA...

That is not a good argument. Half of the players on that list are too expensive. We have to remember that we're not aiming for the finals next year. Adding players (if even possible) like Okafor, Pekovic or Turiaf does not help us.

Yes we might win a few games more but those wins would be meaningless. I want to win as much games as we can, but only while developing talent that can be useful in the future. The other players on that list are more or less known quantities. What do we benefit from bringing those in? We're going through a rebuild now.

Doesn't matter if you like it or not, that's what is happening. And it's in times like these that we should take risks. See if this guy can play.

[steefp2]

TP hpantazo. You said the same thing much more succintly.

[hpantazo]

TP hpantazo. You said the same thing much more succintly.

thanks, TP to you as well  for your response

[bfrombleacher]

Updates (courtesy realgm Celtics's Faverani thread):

http://www.marca.com/2013/07/10/baloncesto/nba/noticias/1373433358.html

They say two Euro teams may have lost the tug of war for Faverani to the Celtics.

http://www.masslive.com/celtics/index.ssf/2013/07/boston_celtics_free_agency_rum_5.html

Ainge, however, wants to "make deals" first.

Ainge and his silver tongue.

[EvilEmpire]

Found this yahoo article about the Celtics the likely hood he will sign. Says there is a buyout but quotes an unnamed source stating there is a 90% chance he will sign with Beantown.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/boston-celtics-likely-sign-brazilian-center-vitor-faverani-232600612.html

[LooseCannon]

Ainge, however, wants to "make deals" first.

Since the Celtics will be hard-capped due to acquiring Bogans in a S&T as part of the big deal, it makes sense that Ainge would want to try and clear some space under the luxury tax threshold to give Faverani a decent-sized contract with the MLE.  Humphries for Biedrins would clear $3 million from payroll.  Brooks and Crawford have modest contracts that can be moved.

[vjcsmoke]

So Danny keeps adding 7 footers.  LOL.  I think we got a theme here - go BIG or go home!  ^_^

I don't mind this signing.  You never know how those international players work out.  Some turn into decent guys like Brian Shaw or Sabonis.  Others will bust.  But it cost us no draft picks to try em out and hopefully no guaranteed $$.