Tank properly + Trade Rondo & Green = 2 top 10 picks in 2014? Would you?

[chambers]

So the aim is probably to get as bad as we can come July 12th. From that day till the NBA draft in 2014 we'll need to lose as many games as possible while trying to increase the value of our assets.
Theres some debate about what we can get back for Wallace and Humphries, picks or Ben Gordon etc...I don't want to worry about who we get back for Wallace and Humphries. The aim is to move them quickly because although they suck, they make us better than we want to be. Take Ben Gordon and put him in the queue of guards. He can't help us if he's the 3rd string SG. We don't want him going off for 35 points and winning a game by 3 points as a result.
We are going to get terrible, If we have 5 shooting guards who cares? We don't want another center, we want one of our youngins to start.

How do we lose as many games as possible while letting key assets look good?
It seems like Ainge has a plan that revolves around  ZERO rim protection and interior defense. This is a way he can keep Rondo and Green and showcase their scoring at least up until February. The showcasing would be for 2014 potential draft trades. In fact he may try this approach the entire season because the later you deal them, the worse the trading partner team is. A threesome of Rondo, Bradley and Green would score well in transition and defend the perimeter well.

Unfortunately(or fortunately) they can't shoot on offense or stop 7 footers inside and almost every NBA team has a 7 footer or starting PF or C that can score. Hell even the bobcats look like they'll have Al Jefferson in a week. Ay kind of big man tandem is going to crush us, and any team with two scoring threats on the wing is going to penetrate and find no resistance at the rim...for easy pickings. I mean can you imagine Durant or ty laws on burning our guards and going to the hole? Not pretty. Zac Randolph and Marc Gasol? Eeeek.

So we are basically 'tanking' our front court, ensuring we lose games.
Our guards look good though and all of them increase their scoring averages with KG, Pierce and Terry gone. Hopefully we move Bass too and lose his 10 ppg.

So come February, I'm assuming Danny floats Green and Bradley hoping for a top 10 pick for both combined.
We can assume he'll attempt the same with Rondo on his own. The asking price will probably be too high for this draft for just Green & Bradley...not sure but it's possible if they both had great seasons. What has a good chance of working is if he'd attempt to get a top 5 pick for Rondo and Green, then hope to land our own top 5 or 10 pick from the tank.
If you're a lottery team that's two pieces away from a playoff contender you'd think long and hard about giving up the 6th pick for Rondo, and what could we get for a combo of Rondo and Green?
If you can't get value around Feb deadline then you can keep both players and ask them to shoot an extra 10-15 3 point shots a game combined with our paint defense to lock in the tank.

That's some lotto dreaming of course but I think the aim is to show off our wing players and Sully so they look good on the offensive end. Put a scrub center out there at all times and make it easy for teams to score on us inside. Start Olnyk and Sully with Green, rondo and Bradley. Bring Melo and Lee in and bump up Lees stats so his deal has worth next offseason.

I've harped on us being overrated with Rondo and ill stress again I really think people are overrating us. We're gonna be so bad with the big man rotation we've got and that's the way Danny wants it. It's sure fire tanking while making your trade assets look good leading up to the big draft.

I mean it's possible that we end up with 2 top 10 picks in the 2014 draft if we tank, and trade Green and Rondo.
I think Danny knows how hard the race to the tank is so either Rondo or Green is going. Whoever gets the biggest return on the dollar.(I hope)
Fingers crossed.
So heres the tough part, would you move Avery and Green for a top 10 pick?
If youre okay with that would you make it Rondo +Green if would land us a top 5 pick?

[JBcat]

I think many people here would consider this.  However the big question would be what teams out there that we could trade Rondo to , and Green and Bradley to that is willing to give up their chances of a lotto pick for them.  I have a hard time seeing bad teams willing to give up their chances of a franchise player for those type of packages.  Maybe Sac town is looking for a big splash with new ownership, and would be willing to give up their pick for Rondo.  I think most bad teams though are willing to roll the dice and keep their pick hoping for a franchise player in the draft.

[tyrone biggums]

How would trading Rondo + Green to a team in the top 5 keep that pick in the top 5?

[Eja117]

2014 is already the most overrated draft of all time

[fitzhickey]

id trade them for 2 top 5 picks in 2014 draft. get wiggins and either randle/smart. but i agree with eja this draft is getting overrated ridiculously 

[Vox_Populi]

2014 is already the most overrated draft of all time

Yep, I think we're all setting ourselves up for disappointment.

[dreamgreen]

Never a good idea to trade young proven NBA talent for potentially getting good NBA talent.

So, NO!

[SHAQATTACK]

not green

or Sully

Rondo.  maybe

[tarheelsxxiii]

Why would another bottom-dwelling team trade their lottery picks in a very strong draft? If you'd prefer one of those prospects to Rondo and/or Green, wouldn't other teams in a similar rebuilding phase?

[Sketch5]

How would trading Rondo + Green to a team in the top 5 keep that pick in the top 5?

Trade it on draft night...

Still not sure about doing it though. Can you replace them as players? Maybe. But what about Rondo's competitiveness? Im hearing Wiggins doesn't have a lot of it. But we'll see once he and the rest get to college and competes against high level talent if that starts their fires...

Oh and I have a good feeling NO ONE is giving up top three pics this year.

[Celtics18]

2014 is already the most overrated draft of all time

Yep, I think we're all setting ourselves up for disappointment.

Agreed.  No disrespect to the youngsters, but the hype machine has gone into hyperdrive.  They can't possibly live up to that. 

Five franchise level superstars?

Another five perennial all stars?

No

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Nope.

I'm not giving away our franchise building blocks for an unproven player, no matter how high they come out in the draft, no matter how NBA scouts project them to be.

There is no uncertainty that these kids would really turn into team carriers, whereas I have that in Rondo and a helping hand in Green.

[danglertx]

The only kind of player I'd be willing to tank a season for is if I had basically no options of getting better and there was a legit C can't miss guy.  Like a Shaq.  Otherwise, you never know. 

I can't believe people are ready to throw away an entire season for a 25%chance of getting a guy who hasn't played a day of College ball yet.

I am a Baylor Alum so I watch all Baylor's games.  I heard they had this awesome guy who was going to be a one and done 7fter with guard skills Isiah Austin.  After watching him for a season, Pierre Jackson was the best player on that team and I have serious doubts as to whether Jackson will be efficient enough to make it in the NBA.  Austin looked like Brad Lohouse, left hand and all.

There is a reason why the same teams are in the lottery year after year after year.  Cleveland got freakin Lebron James and still couldn't win a title.  If we get Wiggins does that make us Cleveland?

So my answer is "no", I wouldn't trade proven players away for the chance at drafting someone who may or may not be good.  I think the answer is hitting on a couple draft picks for really good role players and trading for proven star talent.

[rondoallaturca]

Absolutely not. This suggestion is foolish beyond so many levels.

Green is not a legitimate threat to bettering record, so I'm not even going to touch on him.

Rondo is going to add a few wins, but even with him on the team, we're still looking at being a bottom 6 team, which is still a great position to secure a high lottery pick. Keep in mind that this draft is not a one-trick pony. Even after Wiggins is off the board, there are plenty of other very promising players that have franchise changing potential.

I would much rather keep Rondo so that our roster isn't completely scrapped once we draft our high-potential lottery pick. Not only will it help lure in FAs, it will greatly help the development of that high-potential lottery pick. For all the bad rap Rondo gets about being a "bad teammate", I've consistently heard the young players on Celtics team point to Rondo as being a great mentor. And of course, there's no denying that Rondo instantly makes everyone around him better on the court.

Of course, I'm not saying Rondo should be untouchable. If a right offer comes by, the C's definitely need to consider it. However, I also disagree with your idea of trading Rondo for another potential high lottery pick in 2014. That's basically trading a proven star with superstar potential in the postseason for a guy who MIGHT be a star or superstar. Drafting a duo like Westbrook/Durant is much harder than it's made out to be.

[chambers]

Absolutely not. This suggestion is foolish beyond so many levels.

Green is not a legitimate threat to bettering record, so I'm not even going to touch on him.

Rondo is going to add a few wins, but even with him on the team, we're still looking at being a bottom 6 team, which is still a great position to secure a high lottery pick. Keep in mind that this draft is not a one-trick pony. Even after Wiggins is off the board, there are plenty of other very promising players that have franchise changing potential.

I would much rather keep Rondo so that our roster isn't completely scrapped once we draft our high-potential lottery pick. Not only will it help lure in FAs, it will greatly help the development of that high-potential lottery pick. For all the bad rap Rondo gets about being a "bad teammate", I've consistently heard the young players on Celtics team point to Rondo as being a great mentor. And of course, there's no denying that Rondo instantly makes everyone around him better on the court.

Of course, I'm not saying Rondo should be untouchable. If a right offer comes by, the C's definitely need to consider it. However, I also disagree with your idea of trading Rondo for another potential high lottery pick in 2014. That's basically trading a proven star with superstar potential in the postseason for a guy who MIGHT be a star or superstar. Drafting a duo like Westbrook/Durant is much harder than it's made out to be.

It's not foolish if you land a top 5 pick out of it.
Rondo and Green are not franchise players. They'll be 29 after 2 seasons with our draft picks if we get any. Rondo has had one ACL tear, his rough and tumble style is only going to increase as he carries more of the load. jeff Green is a nice 3rd option but he's probably never becoming an all star.

For a 2014 rookie to have an immediate impact or an all star level impact after 2 years is very rare.
Rondo and green wil be pushing 30 with about 4 seasons of their prime left ...and that's if they don't suffer any more major injuries.

We need scoring, these two are great, but for gods sake some people are saying they wouldn't give up either Rondo or Green on their own?
It's almost laughable how deluded we can be as fans sometimes.
Danny would POUNCE all over a rondo for top 5 pick or a Green for top 10 pick.
They are not franchise players.