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Have you given up on Fab?
« on: July 03, 2013, 09:53:40 AM »

Offline The One

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Very curious to know what you guys think about this polarizing player - Fab Melo

There seems to be two camps regarding the Brazilian big man.

Camp 1 - They are already proclaiming him a bust.  That camp emphatically stating that he should be traded or dropped, like yesterday.  He’s broken a chair and he ran into a door frame.  If he’s not good now, he never will be.

Camp 2 - They  hold out hope for him.  He’s a former Big East Defensive Player of the Year.  He’s a legit 7 footer and he has had a couple of monster games in the D League.  It’s too early to bury him, he’s still learning the game.

I am in Camp 2.  I think he will be good, eventually.

What camp are you in?

Re: Have you given up on Fab?
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Re: Have you given up on Fab?
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2013, 09:56:58 AM »

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I haven't given up on fab. I learned my lesson after giving up on avery

Re: Have you given up on Fab?
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2013, 10:01:35 AM »

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I'm in camp 1. Players can have all the athletic ability in the world, but if they don't have a grasp on basic spacing and basketball movement especially on defense then it won't matter.

To me it is more troubling that he had a soccer background and still don't understand the use of spacing and angles. In soccer keeping the ball in front of you, seeing the man near you and always keeping your shape is paramount defensively, as it is in basketball. Him not understanding the rudimentary concepts of spacing makes me think he doesn't have the innate intelligence to play basketball at a high level because he never understood spacing despite growing up playing a sport in which spacing is extremely important.

Until I see Fab look like someone who isn't playing basketball for the first time I will have no hope in him whatsoever.
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Re: Have you given up on Fab?
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2013, 10:06:03 AM »

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Is there a camp 3 for the middle of both?

I haven't entirely given up on Fab, and don't see the reason why we should anyways. He's on a low risk high cost reward, and is on a team friendly contract. Its problematic that he's suffering so badly, but the thing about Syracuse is they have terrible defensive systems. It really screws up the mentality of the player, because they consistently use that system to fall back on when nothing works or seems to be going well.

The potential and athleticism is there, but the ability to utilize it is a) not there at all, b) still needs more time c) mixture of both.

Honestly, the only thing I want Fab to do is have at least 1.5 BPG, 8.5 RPG, 2.7 PPG, and solid defense on big men. He needs to bulk up, and really experience the intensity of NBA defense. I think him going to D-League was a good and bad thing. Because KG was no longer there mentoring I feel he'll be completely lost at times, without superior guidance backing him up.

Also think after he suffered the concussion that his mind set went out the door. He got lazy, got fat, and started doing horrible, and reverting to zone defense.

He needs to work on his stamina, shot blocking, and being able to box out. I don't know how a 6'9, and just as 1/4 faster undersized big men like Sullinger can box out and grab twice the rebounds Melo can.

Then again no one though Roy Hibbert would do as well as he is now.

Give Melo some time, and see where he goes with the Summer League. I'm hoping at best he can produce 1.6 BPG, 6.7 RPG, and a couple points in under 25 MPG, then I'll be fine.

I rather have him lock down big men then focus on trying to score.
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Re: Have you given up on Fab?
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2013, 10:06:33 AM »

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I given up on him while he was at Syracuse!!!
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Never believed in him, but he isnt taking up too much room and could help the tanking process this year. I would be surprised if he turned out well, but I would be surprised as well if he was cut soon.  ???

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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2013, 10:27:11 AM »

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I didn't like the pick because I knew he was at least 2 years from contributing.  I had no expectations of him last year nor do I have any for next year.  He belongs back in Maine for another year to work on his game. 

If he can't make the roster as a backup center for 14-15 season, then he's definitely a bust

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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2013, 10:27:20 AM »

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« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2013, 10:28:45 AM »

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Agree with Birdman on his post above....bad basketball IQ....overall IQ

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« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2013, 10:30:13 AM »

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I didn't like the pick because I knew he was at least 2 years from contributing.  I had no expectations of him last year nor do I have any for next year.  He belongs back in Maine for another year to work on his game. 

If he can't make the roster as a backup center for 14-15 season, then he's definitely a bust

i didn't like the pick either and i'm definitely not holding out hope that he'll ever pan out.
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Re: Have you given up on Fab?
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2013, 10:44:16 AM »

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I didn't like the pick because I knew he was at least 2 years from contributing.  I had no expectations of him last year nor do I have any for next year.  He belongs back in Maine for another year to work on his game. 

If he can't make the roster as a backup center for 14-15 season, then he's definitely a bust

i didn't like the pick either and i'm definitely not holding out hope that he'll ever pan out.
I don't have much hope either but I try to keep expectations in perspective relative to his projected talent.  Even if he pans out to be good enough to be a backup Center, I still think it was a bad pick because there were probably 5-7 players I'd have taken at that slot before him (probably more than that actually)

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Very curious to know what you guys think about this polarizing player - Fab Melo

There seems to be two camps regarding the Brazilian big man.

Camp 1 - They are already proclaiming him a bust.  That camp emphatically stating that he should be traded or dropped, like yesterday.  He’s broken a chair and he ran into a door frame.  If he’s not good now, he never will be.

Camp 2 - They  hold out hope for him.  He’s a former Big East Defensive Player of the Year.  He’s a legit 7 footer and he has had a couple of monster games in the D League.  It’s too early to bury him, he’s still learning the game.

I am in Camp 2.  I think he will be good, eventually.

What camp are you in?
I have no expectations, so I can only be pleasantly surprised. Our effort to improve the roster should be spearheaded by acquiring proven talent, anything we can get from Melo is a bonus. Luckily, since he's a cheap asset, no need to worry about what to do with him. He will either pan out, or he won't.
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