Report: Pistons Interested In Rondo If He Becomes Available

[JSD]

Funny thought. If we trade Rondo we might be the only team in the league without a very good to elite PG or a super young prospect PG in the whole league.

The difference is Rondo doesn't buckle when the spotlight on. In fact, he shines. It puts him above the fray.

If they took Lee, Bass, Wallace and Rondo and threw in a few unprotected 1st rounders and Monroe or Drummond, I would be all over it.

[Celtics Insider]

Fun fact: if we got back Drummond in a potential trade, we'd recover about 90% of our losses in  passing ability.

[PhoSita]

Speaking of Rondo, Felger and Mazz are talking about trading Rondo ad nauseam. Felger actually said the following, paraphrasing here...

My sources, and I'm not one to claim to have sources, but they've been pretty [dang] right lately, tell me the reason why Rondo wasn't on the bench for game 6 on the playoffs against the Knicks was because he was basically undercutting Doc. He was calling out plays from the bench and it was interfering with Doc's coaching. It was so bad that Doc told him to get out of here.

Felger delights in a negative situation for the Celtics the way that pigs root and roll around in crap.

[Eddie20]

Speaking of Rondo, Felger and Mazz are talking about trading Rondo ad nauseam. Felger actually said the following, paraphrasing here...

My sources, and I'm not one to claim to have sources, but they've been pretty [dang] right lately, tell me the reason why Rondo wasn't on the bench for game 6 on the playoffs against the Knicks was because he was basically undercutting Doc. He was calling out plays from the bench and it was interfering with Doc's coaching. It was so bad that Doc told him to get out of here.

Felger delights in a negative situation for the Celtics the way that pigs root and roll around in crap.

Agreed. Just hadn't heard that reported before.

[ejk3489]

Reading through the comments of that Pistons blog article is a great eye-opener.  People outside of the Boston / New England bubble definitely don't have as nearly high an opinion of Rondo as the vast majority of people around here.

Even Rondo "haters" on here, I think, would disagree with the general attitude about Rondo displayed in those comments.

I mean, a lot of them apparently feel that Calderon is a better option than Rondo.

Then again, you have a thread made by Lakers fans just one week ago (from lakernation.com), openly wanting Rondo on their team:

Well we aren't getting Lebron and I'd take rondo over anyone else in the 2014 or 2015 class

Rondo is one of my favorite players to watch, sucks he got hurt this year. Doubt he is gonna come here

Rondo is a triple double machine in the playoffs. Would love to have him handle the ball, play d, and bring the energy he does to every game for us

I'd be happy if Lakers somehow got him, but I doubt it.

Kobe knows when a player has fire it can easily be channeled into their game and not off the court. There is a difference between being an edgy player and one that is just flat out not caring. Rondo is the first one, and bynum is the second.

Despite having no jump shot he's a triple double machine and one of the best PGs in the league as well as one of the most clutch, that jump shot seems to show up when his team needs it most.

I became a Rondo fan when he dislocated his elbow against Miami, and came back in the 4th to play with one hand. Just seems like something Kobe would do.

Only CP3 I can think of who gives you the best of both tables overall aka the total/complete package.

I'm sure you could find more opinions like the ones above on various team sites, just as easily as you could find negative comments. I don't think you can really conclude either way how Rondo is gauged by fans outside of New England, but I would say that being in the top 10 in NBA jersey sales for three years in a row now constitutes him as one of the most popular players in the NBA right now.

Just sayin', I think it's Celtics fans who underrate Rondo, not the other way around....

[syfy9]

Reading through the comments of that Pistons blog article is a great eye-opener.  People outside of the Boston / New England bubble definitely don't have as nearly high an opinion of Rondo as the vast majority of people around here.

Even Rondo "haters" on here, I think, would disagree with the general attitude about Rondo displayed in those comments.

I mean, a lot of them apparently feel that Calderon is a better option than Rondo.

Then again, you have a thread made by Lakers fans just one week ago (from lakernation.com), openly wanting Rondo on their team:

Well we aren't getting Lebron and I'd take rondo over anyone else in the 2014 or 2015 class

Rondo is one of my favorite players to watch, sucks he got hurt this year. Doubt he is gonna come here

Rondo is a triple double machine in the playoffs. Would love to have him handle the ball, play d, and bring the energy he does to every game for us

I'd be happy if Lakers somehow got him, but I doubt it.

Kobe knows when a player has fire it can easily be channeled into their game and not off the court. There is a difference between being an edgy player and one that is just flat out not caring. Rondo is the first one, and bynum is the second.

Despite having no jump shot he's a triple double machine and one of the best PGs in the league as well as one of the most clutch, that jump shot seems to show up when his team needs it most.

I became a Rondo fan when he dislocated his elbow against Miami, and came back in the 4th to play with one hand. Just seems like something Kobe would do.

Only CP3 I can think of who gives you the best of both tables overall aka the total/complete package.

I'm sure you could find more opinions like the ones above on various team sites, just as easily as you could find negative comments. I don't think you can really conclude either way how Rondo is gauged by fans outside of New England, but I would say that being in the top 10 in NBA jersey sales for three years in a row now constitutes him as one of the most popular players in the NBA right now.

Just sayin', I think it's Celtics fans who underrate Rondo, not the other way around....

TP

[PhoSita]

Reading through the comments of that Pistons blog article is a great eye-opener.  People outside of the Boston / New England bubble definitely don't have as nearly high an opinion of Rondo as the vast majority of people around here.

Even Rondo "haters" on here, I think, would disagree with the general attitude about Rondo displayed in those comments.

I mean, a lot of them apparently feel that Calderon is a better option than Rondo.

Then again, you have a thread made by Lakers fans just one week ago (from lakernation.com), openly wanting Rondo on their team:

Well we aren't getting Lebron and I'd take rondo over anyone else in the 2014 or 2015 class

Rondo is one of my favorite players to watch, sucks he got hurt this year. Doubt he is gonna come here

Rondo is a triple double machine in the playoffs. Would love to have him handle the ball, play d, and bring the energy he does to every game for us

I'd be happy if Lakers somehow got him, but I doubt it.

Kobe knows when a player has fire it can easily be channeled into their game and not off the court. There is a difference between being an edgy player and one that is just flat out not caring. Rondo is the first one, and bynum is the second.

Despite having no jump shot he's a triple double machine and one of the best PGs in the league as well as one of the most clutch, that jump shot seems to show up when his team needs it most.

I became a Rondo fan when he dislocated his elbow against Miami, and came back in the 4th to play with one hand. Just seems like something Kobe would do.

Only CP3 I can think of who gives you the best of both tables overall aka the total/complete package.

I'm sure you could find more opinions like the ones above on various team sites, just as easily as you could find negative comments. I don't think you can really conclude either way how Rondo is gauged by fans outside of New England, but I would say that being in the top 10 in NBA jersey sales for three years in a row now constitutes him as one of the most popular players in the NBA right now.

Just sayin', I think it's Celtics fans who underrate Rondo, not the other way around....

You raise a good point.

Fans of the Bulls, Lakers, Heat, Cavs etc probably appreciate Rondo, because they watched him do well against their teams in the playoffs.

Still, I think in general Rondo is not seen as having similar value to the top point guards in the league -- Paul, D-Will, Curry, Parker, Rose, Westbrook, Irving in particular -- whereas I think a lot of Celtics fans would be incensed to be told as much.

[Eddie20]

Reading through the comments of that Pistons blog article is a great eye-opener.  People outside of the Boston / New England bubble definitely don't have as nearly high an opinion of Rondo as the vast majority of people around here.

Even Rondo "haters" on here, I think, would disagree with the general attitude about Rondo displayed in those comments.

I mean, a lot of them apparently feel that Calderon is a better option than Rondo.

Then again, you have a thread made by Lakers fans just one week ago (from lakernation.com), openly wanting Rondo on their team:

Well we aren't getting Lebron and I'd take rondo over anyone else in the 2014 or 2015 class

Rondo is one of my favorite players to watch, sucks he got hurt this year. Doubt he is gonna come here

Rondo is a triple double machine in the playoffs. Would love to have him handle the ball, play d, and bring the energy he does to every game for us

I'd be happy if Lakers somehow got him, but I doubt it.

Kobe knows when a player has fire it can easily be channeled into their game and not off the court. There is a difference between being an edgy player and one that is just flat out not caring. Rondo is the first one, and bynum is the second.

Despite having no jump shot he's a triple double machine and one of the best PGs in the league as well as one of the most clutch, that jump shot seems to show up when his team needs it most.

I became a Rondo fan when he dislocated his elbow against Miami, and came back in the 4th to play with one hand. Just seems like something Kobe would do.

Only CP3 I can think of who gives you the best of both tables overall aka the total/complete package.

I'm sure you could find more opinions like the ones above on various team sites, just as easily as you could find negative comments. I don't think you can really conclude either way how Rondo is gauged by fans outside of New England, but I would say that being in the top 10 in NBA jersey sales for three years in a row now constitutes him as one of the most popular players in the NBA right now.

Just sayin', I think it's Celtics fans who underrate Rondo, not the other way around....

I'm sure the Lakers would love him because none of their PG's can stop anybody. However, and this is the big thing, what would they be willing to trade? It's easy to say you would want something, but without many assets we would want in return, they don't have much to realistically give up.

[Eddie20]

Still, I think in general Rondo is not seen as having similar value to the top point guards in the league -- Paul, D-Will, Curry, Parker, Rose, Westbrook, Irving in particular -- whereas I think a lot of Celtics fans would be incensed to be told as much.

That's exactly where I think Rondo ranks with a couple of other PG's quickly gaining ground (Wall, Rubio, Holiday).

[kozlodoev]

http://www.detroitbadboys.com/2013/6/29/4477970/rajon-rondo-trade-pistons-rajon-rondo-gerald-wallace-brandon-knight-rodney-stuckey

They seem to be under the impression that taking back Gerald Wallace's contract and sending back expiring deals and Brandon Knight would be enough to get Rondo.

I wouldn't consider any trade idea that wasn't headlined by Monroe or Drummond. No exceptions.

We are in no rush to move Rondo, there will be a team out there willing to overpay for him if we do move him. Drummond or Monroe or we just keep playing the waiting game.

It's funny that one of the commenters found including Monroe a comic proposition. I don't think any deal will get done without including either Monroe or Drummond. I'd take Stuckey with either of the two (not sure whether they're looking to unload him or not), and I'd be happy to give them Melo or Bradley back.

I don't think we're in fire sale mode.

[PhoSita]

Still, I think in general Rondo is not seen as having similar value to the top point guards in the league -- Paul, D-Will, Curry, Parker, Rose, Westbrook, Irving in particular -- whereas I think a lot of Celtics fans would be incensed to be told as much.

That's exactly where I think Rondo ranks with a couple of other PG's quickly gaining ground (Wall, Rubio, Holiday).

I think at his best Rondo is at or near the level (of on-court impact) of those players, but his unique skillset means it's harder to find a good fit for him on a team.  Rondo is also at his best less consistently than those other players. 

Couple that with the fact that he's older than most of those guys and is coming off a major knee injury and I don't think it's surprising that his trade value isn't on the same level.

[ejk3489]

You raise a good point.

Fans of the Bulls, Lakers, Heat, Cavs etc probably appreciate Rondo, because they watched him do well against their teams in the playoffs.

Still, I think in general Rondo is not seen as having similar value to the top point guards in the league -- Paul, D-Will, Curry, Parker, Rose, Westbrook, Irving in particular -- whereas I think a lot of Celtics fans would be incensed to be told as much.

That's true, although I still disagree that Rondo's value is lower than D-Will (b/c of his contract) and possibly Parker (age).

I'm sure the Lakers would love him because none of their PG's can stop anybody. However, and this is the big thing, what would they be willing to trade? It's easy to say you would want something, but without many assets we would want in return, they don't have much to realistically give up.

Fair enough. Most of the trade proposals on that thread included Pau in some way, although a few mentioned Howard as well. Other than that though, they don't have much to trade that the C's would want.

[SHAQATTACK]

Frankly DH12 ..isn't really thinking ( as usual)  ...probally the best point guard for him would be Rondo...

If Howard really wanted NOTHING but rings ....he would be awesome with ROndo , as ROndo would do nothing but make a scoring machine out of Dwight in the low post.

Kinda stupid , this  frantic "NEED"  too play in LA or to be "COOL" ..guys grow up ,  for Movie stars and weather ,  can't they do all that AFTER the basketball career is over.

If he would have not been so childish wanting to be WARM and mobbed and loved by Californians ,  he could have came to Boston and already had a couple championships with KG and PP and RONDO..

[Celtics18]

Reading through the comments of that Pistons blog article is a great eye-opener.  People outside of the Boston / New England bubble definitely don't have as nearly high an opinion of Rondo as the vast majority of people around here.

Even Rondo "haters" on here, I think, would disagree with the general attitude about Rondo displayed in those comments.

I mean, a lot of them apparently feel that Calderon is a better option than Rondo.

Then again, you have a thread made by Lakers fans just one week ago (from lakernation.com), openly wanting Rondo on their team:

Well we aren't getting Lebron and I'd take rondo over anyone else in the 2014 or 2015 class

Rondo is one of my favorite players to watch, sucks he got hurt this year. Doubt he is gonna come here

Rondo is a triple double machine in the playoffs. Would love to have him handle the ball, play d, and bring the energy he does to every game for us

I'd be happy if Lakers somehow got him, but I doubt it.

Kobe knows when a player has fire it can easily be channeled into their game and not off the court. There is a difference between being an edgy player and one that is just flat out not caring. Rondo is the first one, and bynum is the second.

Despite having no jump shot he's a triple double machine and one of the best PGs in the league as well as one of the most clutch, that jump shot seems to show up when his team needs it most.

I became a Rondo fan when he dislocated his elbow against Miami, and came back in the 4th to play with one hand. Just seems like something Kobe would do.

Only CP3 I can think of who gives you the best of both tables overall aka the total/complete package.

I'm sure you could find more opinions like the ones above on various team sites, just as easily as you could find negative comments. I don't think you can really conclude either way how Rondo is gauged by fans outside of New England, but I would say that being in the top 10 in NBA jersey sales for three years in a row now constitutes him as one of the most popular players in the NBA right now.

Just sayin', I think it's Celtics fans who underrate Rondo, not the other way around....

You raise a good point.

Fans of the Bulls, Lakers, Heat, Cavs etc probably appreciate Rondo, because they watched him do well against their teams in the playoffs.

Still, I think in general Rondo is not seen as having similar value to the top point guards in the league -- Paul, D-Will, Curry, Parker, Rose, Westbrook, Irving in particular -- whereas I think a lot of Celtics fans would be incensed to be told as much.

His value has most assuredly dropped since he's been recovering from knee surgery, but I don't think you would have found many objective observers who would have put him outside the top three point guards in the league during the 2012 off-season.

It's a big if, but the hope is that he can recover fully from his surgery, and get back to being the player that he was during the 2011-2012 season. 

[ssspence]

Still, I think in general Rondo is not seen as having similar value to the top point guards in the league -- Paul, D-Will, Curry, Parker, Rose, Westbrook, Irving in particular -- whereas I think a lot of Celtics fans would be incensed to be told as much.

That's exactly where I think Rondo ranks with a couple of other PG's quickly gaining ground (Wall, Rubio, Holiday).

Agreed. His trade value is certainly not at the same level as that first list (with the possible exception of D-Will, whose value would be volatile at best these days). From there, there's a number of debatables (Minny for example would not trade Rubio for Rondo). So the specific situations where Rondo makes sense is limited. Practically speaking it's about 6-8 teams max.