Report: Pistons Interested In Rondo If He Becomes Available

[Fafnir]

Our front line was one of the SOFTER front lines in the NBA last year in terms of age and how they played.  There were very few hard fouls dished out on opponents by the Celtics!!

C's had a much better defense than the Wolves and also fouled more often.

[sunnyd656]

If Rondo, now that the Big Three are gone, comes back to start the season and goes 17/11/6/2 50% FG%, 70% FT%, 30% 3PT%, this year and makes another All-Star game, a lot of you guys are going to need to adjust where you rank Rondo amongst the best PGs in the league.

It was just 2 years ago when people had Tony Parker almost falling out of the Top 10 PGs in the league. The last two years he asserted himself more as Manu and Duncan took smaller roles in the regular season and some are now saying he is the best PG in the league.

Funny how those things work.

That was supposed to happen this past season when everyone was saying it was "Rondo's team" during the preseason. The Big 3 gone, and subsequently losing their spot up ability, will only hurt the pass first style of Rondo and the lack of spacing/teams playing off him will also hurt his ability to penetrate.

I think Parker is a much different case than Rondo because he's a scoring PG. So with Duncan and Ginobili taking a backseat to him it allowed him to be more aggressive with his scoring.

With a young running team any assists Rondo loses in the half court because a loss of KG, Pierce, and Terry will be made up for in transition assists. I think Rondo might break 12 assists a year in an uptempo transition style offense.

But on the flipside, our interior defense is going to be so bad that it's going to make it that much harder to get stops and in turn get the break started. Teams are going to be going inside on us all day, either via the post or just attacking the basket. Our best shotblocker is?

Absolutely marginal effect. If the Celtics play at a higher rate more possession will be created. Also, 25 teams in the league have an eFG% of less than 52%. Which means, no matter how bad the defense, the C's are still going to be getting a bunch of possession they can break on.

Wait, you think the lack of interior defense has a "marginal effect" on our overall ability to break?

I'll gladly bet you that he won't achieve the numbers you mentioned above...as many TP's as you want in fact...

17/11/6/2 50% FG%, 70% FT%, 30% 3PT%


Keep in mind though that his career high in each category is...

13.7/11.7/5.6/2.3  50.8 FG, 64.7 FT, 31.3 3's

Are you really that confident that he could achieve those numbers coming back from a torn ACL and with a much weaker supporting cast?

So what you're saying is he's already there? Lol. He's going to average atleast 4 more ppg just because he's going to be forced to take more shots. He was only shooting about 16-17 per game IIRC.

[TheTruthFot18]

I seriously want to know where these rumors are coming from. Detroit will not move Monroe (best asset) and will likely ask too much for a still growing Drummond.

I don't want anything from that team.

These Rondo trades must be starting outside Boston. No way Rondo brings back anything less than a player of his caliber or better assuming he's traded when healthy.

[Boston Garden Leprechaun]

from rondos REAL facebook page:


Pistons ? Are you kidding me ?

Rodney Stuckey , Charlie Villanueva , Brandon Knight , Greg Monroe to Boston.

Me , Wallace and Lee to Detroit.Please recejt Ainge !

[hpantazo]

from rondos REAL facebook page:


Pistons ? Are you kidding me ?

Rodney Stuckey , Charlie Villanueva , Brandon Knight , Greg Monroe to Boston.

Me , Wallace and Lee to Detroit.Please recejt Ainge !

That's a good trade for us. We unload Wallace and Lee, and we get a young stud center in Monroe, along with Knight and Stuckey to man the guard positions.

I'd prefer Drummond though, and would overpay to get him. He will be better than Dwight Howard, league MVP potential.

[gpap]

from rondos REAL facebook page:


Pistons ? Are you kidding me ?

Rodney Stuckey , Charlie Villanueva , Brandon Knight , Greg Monroe to Boston.

Me , Wallace and Lee to Detroit.Please recejt Ainge !

That's a good trade for us. We unload Wallace and Lee, and we get a young stud center in Monroe, along with Knight and Stuckey to man the guard positions.

I'd prefer Drummond though, and would overpay to get him. He will be better than Dwight Howard, league MVP potential.

I would agree that this would be a good trade for us. We essentially receive expiring contracts and unload our burden contracts (Wallace and Lee.)

I would just respectfully disagree that I'd would actually be happier with Greg Monroe. From what I see, Monroe is a stud while Drummond is still working his way up.

Fyi, regarding this trade, is this something that someone just pulled out of their you know what? (lol.)

[Roy H.]

from rondos REAL facebook page:


Pistons ? Are you kidding me ?

Rodney Stuckey , Charlie Villanueva , Brandon Knight , Greg Monroe to Boston.

Me , Wallace and Lee to Detroit.Please recejt Ainge !

Obviously this isn't a real trade, but I'd do that deal in a second.

We get rid of Wallace's terrible contract and pick up Monroe + Knight?  That's worth Rondo.

[rondoallaturca]

Why is everyone so enamored with Monroe and Knight? Drummond is their only attractive asset IMO.

[Roy H.]

Why is everyone so enamored with Monroe and Knight? Drummond is their only attractive asset IMO.

You don't see Monroe as an "attractive asset"?

23 years old, coming off a 16 point, 10 rebound, 3.5 assist season?  Has only missed three games in his career? 

Knight is more of a question mark, but Monroe is incredibly solid.

[Celtics Insider]

Why is everyone so enamored with Monroe and Knight? Drummond is their only attractive asset IMO.

You don't see Monroe as an "attractive asset"?

23 years old, coming off a 16 point, 10 rebound, 3.5 assist season?  Has only missed three games in his career? 

Knight is more of a question mark, but Monroe is incredibly solid.

Monroe is great, but Drummond, in my homer-esque opinion, has HoF potential, if used in the right offense.

[Roy H.]

Why is everyone so enamored with Monroe and Knight? Drummond is their only attractive asset IMO.

You don't see Monroe as an "attractive asset"?

23 years old, coming off a 16 point, 10 rebound, 3.5 assist season?  Has only missed three games in his career? 

Knight is more of a question mark, but Monroe is incredibly solid.

Monroe is great, but Drummond, in my homer-esque opinion, has HoF potential, if used in the right offense.

He's also in the past shown an Andrew Bynum-esque work ethic.

We're talking about a guy who averaged 7.9 points / 7.6 rebounds last year.  I think it's a bit early for the HOF proclamations.

[bfrombleacher]

Why is everyone so enamored with Monroe and Knight? Drummond is their only attractive asset IMO.

You don't see Monroe as an "attractive asset"?

23 years old, coming off a 16 point, 10 rebound, 3.5 assist season?  Has only missed three games in his career? 

Knight is more of a question mark, but Monroe is incredibly solid.

Monroe is great, but Drummond, in my homer-esque opinion, has HoF potential, if used in the right offense.

Usually I don't say this but...wow that's hella homerism.

He is SUPER raw.

A worse Dwight Howard from my impressions?

Sure there is potential but I think it's too early to tell.

But then again, a lot of players are making the HoF.

[BleedGreen1989]

Why is everyone so enamored with Monroe and Knight? Drummond is their only attractive asset IMO.

You don't see Monroe as an "attractive asset"?

23 years old, coming off a 16 point, 10 rebound, 3.5 assist season?  Has only missed three games in his career? 

Knight is more of a question mark, but Monroe is incredibly solid.

Doesn't Monroe remind you a heck of a lot of Al Jefferson?

[rondoallaturca]

Why is everyone so enamored with Monroe and Knight? Drummond is their only attractive asset IMO.

You don't see Monroe as an "attractive asset"?

23 years old, coming off a 16 point, 10 rebound, 3.5 assist season?  Has only missed three games in his career? 

Knight is more of a question mark, but Monroe is incredibly solid.

Monroe has shown absolutely no sign of development during his entire NBA career. He's definitely a guy who has double-double potential, and is very good with his hands, translating into an above average passer and stealer for his position. However, his focus is incredibly poor, and his contributions can alternate from being a complete non-factor to being the best player on the court.

I'm certainly not going to complain if he was on my team, because at 23, a lot of his issues can be fixed. I may have overblown the statement of Drummond being the ONLY attractive asset, but Drummond is way more appealing than Monroe IMO. Any trade with Detroit for Rondo must require us getting back Drummond to make it worth it.

[hpantazo]

Why is everyone so enamored with Monroe and Knight? Drummond is their only attractive asset IMO.

You don't see Monroe as an "attractive asset"?

23 years old, coming off a 16 point, 10 rebound, 3.5 assist season?  Has only missed three games in his career? 

Knight is more of a question mark, but Monroe is incredibly solid.

Monroe has shown absolutely no sign of development during his entire NBA career. He's definitely a guy who has double-double potential, and is very good with his hands, translating into an above average passer and stealer for his position. However, his focus is incredibly poor, and his contributions can alternate from being a complete non-factor to being the best player on the court.

I'm certainly not going to complain if he was on my team, because at 23, a lot of his issues can be fixed. I may have overblown the statement of Drummond being the ONLY attractive asset, but Drummond is way more appealing than Monroe IMO. Any trade with Detroit for Rondo must require us getting back Drummond to make it worth it.

I agree. I would overpay to get Drummond. Roy quoting his averages for last season is a poor comparison, and I don't know where this "Bynum-esque" work ethic story comes from. All reports say he's a very hard worker and a great kid, very different from Bynum and Howard in that respect. His stats last season are low because the pistons kept him on a minutes restriction. His PER numbers are equal to or better than Dwight Howards rookie season. He has all the tools and the mindset to dominate this league in a few years. He's still extremely raw but already showed flashes of domination.

Monroe on the other hand has peaked imo.