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Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #45 on: June 30, 2013, 04:05:13 PM »

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Brooks can play SF. Wallace PF. Bogans looks like a nice trade chip at the deadline or next year if he is fully Non-guaranteed after this year, but that doesn't mean he has to play. If we land Evans it's hard for me to see rondo staying bc I don't see the fit.

Trading rondo could mean packaging the likes of Courtney lee and Gerald Wallace with him.
Brooks can't play SF. In the little bit he has in his career he has been abysmal at it.

Also, I doubt Evans would be a Rondo replacement. Evans is just not a PG, no matter how much someone tries to stick him in that role. He's a combo guard.

Wouldn't Tyreke work great handling the ball when Rondo is on the bench for about 12 to 15 minutes a game? During that time He would be getting the ball full time running the offense when Rondo is on the bench and Tyreke is paired with Avery Bradley.  At those points of the game he would know he has the green light to try and take over the game if he has an advantage.  I think in an uptempo offense they can learn to work well together the rest of the time that they are out there together. 

Rondo, Evans, Bradley and Lee would be a very good guard rotation to have for the next three to four years.  Lee could be even moved if Marshon Brooks or one of those upcoming draft picks ends up being a rotation caliber PG or SG.

The only question for me is if Evans is worth the full mid level exemption for three or four years(if he would accept it)or the $7.3 million trade exemption the Celtics are rumored to be receiving out of the Pierce/Garnett/Terry deal?  Even though he has some weaknesses in his game and personality, Tyreke is definitely a steal at that price and really good value to add to the team if they can get him at around $5 to $7 million a year.

Best part of all you get him without giving up Rajon Rondo in the process. 
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Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #46 on: June 30, 2013, 04:08:34 PM »

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guess he is 6'5" but he doesn't have great ups

Here are Evans' draft measurements....

Height 6' 5.25"
Weight 221
Wingspan 6' 11.25"
Standing Reach 8' 8"
Max Vert 34.0

For comparison's sake here are Harden's

Height 6' 5.25"
Weight 222
Wingspan 6' 10.75"
Standing Reach 8' 7.5"
Max Vert 37.0

As you see, he stacks up very well Harden, who is also a big 2 guard.

Also, Harden's best season was his rookie year and that's when he was playing a majority of his minutes as a pg/facilitator. I see a lot of people here say that he can't play the point, when I think his biggest issue is learning how to play off the ball.

Let's not forget that he's also just 23. The guy will continue to improve. It's very reasonable to believe that in 3 years, and just the around the time we're ready to make that playoff push, he'll be superior to Rondo.

Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #47 on: June 30, 2013, 04:11:09 PM »

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Brooks can play SF. Wallace PF. Bogans looks like a nice trade chip at the deadline or next year if he is fully Non-guaranteed after this year, but that doesn't mean he has to play. If we land Evans it's hard for me to see rondo staying bc I don't see the fit.

Trading rondo could mean packaging the likes of Courtney lee and Gerald Wallace with him.
Brooks can't play SF. In the little bit he has in his career he has been abysmal at it.

Also, I doubt Evans would be a Rondo replacement. Evans is just not a PG, no matter how much someone tries to stick him in that role. He's a combo guard.

Wouldn't Tyreke work great handling the ball when Rondo is on the bench for about 12 to 15 minutes a game? He would be getting the ball full time running the offense when Rondo is on the bench and he is paired with Avery Bradley.  Between Evans and Bradley it doesn't evenAt those points of the games he would know he has the green light to try and take over the game if he has an advantage.  I think in an uptempo offense they can learn to work well together the rest of the time that they are out there together. 

Rondo, Evans, Bradley and Lee would be a very guard rotation to have for the next three to four years.  Lee could be even moved for someone cheaper or if Marshon Brooks or one of those upcoming draft picks ends up being a rotation caliber PG or SG.

The only question for me is if Evans is worth the full mid level exemption for three or four years(if he would accept it)or the $7.3 million trade exemption the Celtics are rumored to be receiving out of the Pierce/Garnett/Terry deal?  Even though he has some weaknesses in his game and personality, Tyreke is definitely a steal and really good value to add to the team if they can get him at around $5 to $7 million a year.

Best part of all you get him without giving up Rajon Rondo in the process.

yikes! That is a great way to miss out on this 2014 draft still be very mediocre over the long term. And you still have a tiny back court. Not liking continuing the "6'5" and under" back court combos. We got killed with that this year.

Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #48 on: June 30, 2013, 04:14:50 PM »

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Tyreke will get close to $10mill per imo
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Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #49 on: June 30, 2013, 04:15:59 PM »

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Tyreke will get close to $10mill per imo

Wow, I don't think there is any way he gets anything close to that. 

Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #50 on: June 30, 2013, 04:17:46 PM »

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Tyreke will get close to $10mill per imo

Wow, I don't think there is any way he gets anything close to that.

I think he is closer to 10 than he is to the mid level...

Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #51 on: June 30, 2013, 04:21:50 PM »

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guess he is 6'5" but he doesn't have great ups

Here are Evans' draft measurements....

Height 6' 5.25"
Weight 221
Wingspan 6' 11.25"
Standing Reach 8' 8"
Max Vert 34.0

For comparison's sake here are Harden's

Height 6' 5.25"
Weight 222
Wingspan 6' 10.75"
Standing Reach 8' 7.5"
Max Vert 37.0

As you see, he stacks up very well Harden, who is also a big 2 guard.

Also, Harden's best season was his rookie year and that's when he was playing a majority of his minutes as a pg/facilitator. I see a lot of people here say that he can't play the point, when I think his biggest issue is learning how to play off the ball.

Let's not forget that he's also just 23. The guy will continue to improve. It's very reasonable to believe that in 3 years, and just the around the time we're ready to make that playoff push, he'll be superior to Rondo.

yeah, but Harden is WAY more talented. I mean, he is similar in size to DWade too, but that's not going to make me feel better about having Tyreke as my two guard...there's a huge talent gap.

look, I would have loved Tyreke on this team if we still had Paul and KG, but if we are rebuilding, without any cornerstone players to fall back on (like PP and KG) I want my starting SG of the future to have more pluses than Tyreke has. I'd love it if he could be a starting PG, but not for a starting SG...

Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #52 on: June 30, 2013, 04:21:53 PM »

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guess he is 6'5" but he doesn't have great ups

Here are Evans' draft measurements....

Height 6' 5.25"
Weight 221
Wingspan 6' 11.25"
Standing Reach 8' 8"
Max Vert 34.0

For comparison's sake here are Harden's

Height 6' 5.25"
Weight 222
Wingspan 6' 10.75"
Standing Reach 8' 7.5"
Max Vert 37.0

As you see, he stacks up very well Harden, who is also a big 2 guard.

Also, Harden's best season was his rookie year and that's when he was playing a majority of his minutes as a pg/facilitator. I see a lot of people here say that he can't play the point, when I think his biggest issue is learning how to play off the ball.

Let's not forget that he's also just 23. The guy will continue to improve. It's very reasonable to believe that in 3 years, and just the around the time we're ready to make that playoff push, he'll be superior to Rondo.

Tyreke is no where close to the shooter Harden is .

Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #53 on: June 30, 2013, 04:24:13 PM »

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guess he is 6'5" but he doesn't have great ups

Here are Evans' draft measurements....

Height 6' 5.25"
Weight 221
Wingspan 6' 11.25"
Standing Reach 8' 8"
Max Vert 34.0

For comparison's sake here are Harden's

Height 6' 5.25"
Weight 222
Wingspan 6' 10.75"
Standing Reach 8' 7.5"
Max Vert 37.0

As you see, he stacks up very well Harden, who is also a big 2 guard.

Also, Harden's best season was his rookie year and that's when he was playing a majority of his minutes as a pg/facilitator. I see a lot of people here say that he can't play the point, when I think his biggest issue is learning how to play off the ball.

Let's not forget that he's also just 23. The guy will continue to improve. It's very reasonable to believe that in 3 years, and just the around the time we're ready to make that playoff push, he'll be superior to Rondo.

Stacks up to Harden? Superior to Rondo in 3 years?

Lol.

Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #54 on: June 30, 2013, 04:28:06 PM »

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guess he is 6'5" but he doesn't have great ups

Here are Evans' draft measurements....

Height 6' 5.25"
Weight 221
Wingspan 6' 11.25"
Standing Reach 8' 8"
Max Vert 34.0

For comparison's sake here are Harden's

Height 6' 5.25"
Weight 222
Wingspan 6' 10.75"
Standing Reach 8' 7.5"
Max Vert 37.0

As you see, he stacks up very well Harden, who is also a big 2 guard.

Also, Harden's best season was his rookie year and that's when he was playing a majority of his minutes as a pg/facilitator. I see a lot of people here say that he can't play the point, when I think his biggest issue is learning how to play off the ball.

Let's not forget that he's also just 23. The guy will continue to improve. It's very reasonable to believe that in 3 years, and just the around the time we're ready to make that playoff push, he'll be superior to Rondo.

Tyreke is no where close to the shooter Harden is .

Harden is a way better shooter, no doubt. I'm making the comparison to the size "issue" and the misconception that Evans is small.

As a senior in HS...




Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #55 on: June 30, 2013, 04:33:46 PM »

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guess he is 6'5" but he doesn't have great ups

Here are Evans' draft measurements....

Height 6' 5.25"
Weight 221
Wingspan 6' 11.25"
Standing Reach 8' 8"
Max Vert 34.0

For comparison's sake here are Harden's

Height 6' 5.25"
Weight 222
Wingspan 6' 10.75"
Standing Reach 8' 7.5"
Max Vert 37.0

As you see, he stacks up very well Harden, who is also a big 2 guard.

Also, Harden's best season was his rookie year and that's when he was playing a majority of his minutes as a pg/facilitator. I see a lot of people here say that he can't play the point, when I think his biggest issue is learning how to play off the ball.

Let's not forget that he's also just 23. The guy will continue to improve. It's very reasonable to believe that in 3 years, and just the around the time we're ready to make that playoff push, he'll be superior to Rondo.

Stacks up to Harden? Superior to Rondo in 3 years?

Lol.

Again, I think Harden is the better player, but their games are very similar. He's a poor man's Harden if you will.

Yes, it's reasonable to believe that Evans, currently 23, could be better than Rondo, currently 27, in 3 years. Let's not forget that Evans is no scrub, but stuck in the wasteland that is Sacramento. We're taking about a guy that as a rookie averaged 20-5-5.

Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #56 on: June 30, 2013, 04:37:49 PM »

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I'd be cool with Tyreke coming here. Guy can score and get to the rim. He has played for a loser franchise his career so he could come here and really blossom. He is only 23 year old as well.

Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #57 on: June 30, 2013, 04:41:48 PM »

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guess he is 6'5" but he doesn't have great ups

Here are Evans' draft measurements....

Height 6' 5.25"
Weight 221
Wingspan 6' 11.25"
Standing Reach 8' 8"
Max Vert 34.0

For comparison's sake here are Harden's

Height 6' 5.25"
Weight 222
Wingspan 6' 10.75"
Standing Reach 8' 7.5"
Max Vert 37.0

As you see, he stacks up very well Harden, who is also a big 2 guard.

Also, Harden's best season was his rookie year and that's when he was playing a majority of his minutes as a pg/facilitator. I see a lot of people here say that he can't play the point, when I think his biggest issue is learning how to play off the ball.

Let's not forget that he's also just 23. The guy will continue to improve. It's very reasonable to believe that in 3 years, and just the around the time we're ready to make that playoff push, he'll be superior to Rondo.

Stacks up to Harden? Superior to Rondo in 3 years?

Lol.

Again, I think Harden is the better player, but their games are very similar. He's a poor man's Harden if you will.

Yes, it's reasonable to believe that Evans, currently 23, could be better than Rondo, currently 27, in 3 years. Let's not forget that Evans is no scrub, but stuck in the wasteland that is Sacramento. We're taking about a guy that as a rookie averaged 20-5-5.
And we are talking about Rondo, a 4 time All-Star, a 4 time All-Defense team member, a one time All-NBA team member, a guy who has had over 11 APG for three straight years, led the league in assists per game twice and steals per game once, and once average 17/9.8/9.7 for two playoff series.

It is not reasonable to believe that Evans will be better than Rondo in 3 years when Rondo will still be in his prime and Evans has had a steady decline in performance from that rookie year.

Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #58 on: June 30, 2013, 04:48:11 PM »

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guess he is 6'5" but he doesn't have great ups

Here are Evans' draft measurements....

Height 6' 5.25"
Weight 221
Wingspan 6' 11.25"
Standing Reach 8' 8"
Max Vert 34.0

For comparison's sake here are Harden's

Height 6' 5.25"
Weight 222
Wingspan 6' 10.75"
Standing Reach 8' 7.5"
Max Vert 37.0

As you see, he stacks up very well Harden, who is also a big 2 guard.

Also, Harden's best season was his rookie year and that's when he was playing a majority of his minutes as a pg/facilitator. I see a lot of people here say that he can't play the point, when I think his biggest issue is learning how to play off the ball.

Let's not forget that he's also just 23. The guy will continue to improve. It's very reasonable to believe that in 3 years, and just the around the time we're ready to make that playoff push, he'll be superior to Rondo.

Stacks up to Harden? Superior to Rondo in 3 years?

Lol.

Again, I think Harden is the better player, but their games are very similar. He's a poor man's Harden if you will.

Yes, it's reasonable to believe that Evans, currently 23, could be better than Rondo, currently 27, in 3 years. Let's not forget that Evans is no scrub, but stuck in the wasteland that is Sacramento. We're taking about a guy that as a rookie averaged 20-5-5.
And we are talking about Rondo, a 4 time All-Star, a 4 time All-Defense team member, a one time All-NBA team member, a guy who has had over 11 APG for three straight years, led the league in assists per game twice and steals per game once, and once average 17/9.8/9.7 for two playoff series.

It is not reasonable to believe that Evans will be better than Rondo in 3 years when Rondo will still be in his prime and Evans has had a steady decline in performance from that rookie year.


Is that also the same guy that is coming off a season in which he led the C's to a 500 record before tearing his ACL? Don't you think that if Ainge and company really felt Rondo were so great, our plan would be to "win now" instead of stockpiling assets for the future? Think about that.

Re: Personal Source: Tyreke Evans meeting with Boston July 1
« Reply #59 on: June 30, 2013, 04:50:05 PM »

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I could see DA bringing in Evans and keeping Rondo for at least half the year. Evans is a solid back up to if Rondo can't come back soon and or at all.

If Rondo and he can play together thats great. But if he can't knowing how much DA likes Evans, and Rondo is playing well, I could see DA moving Rondo.

People have complained about Evans shooting. But he has improved that part of it. About 10% up this season from his average. It would also be nice to have a guy out side of Green that could get his own shot too.

If DA can get him for between 5 and 7 a year that would be nice.