Anybody else think we're too good to "tank"?

[PhoSita]

The team as currently constructed has no true centers worthy of rotation minutes, does not have a single rim protector, lacks adequate floor spacing, still has no true, proven backup ball handler, lacks a guy who can be a legitimate #2 offensive option let alone a #1 option, and generally does not fit together very well.

I would heavily expect the team to play worse than the sum of its parts, which is why I'm pretty confident this team will be one of the worst in the Eastern Conference even if there's still some solid talent there.

[cb8883]

I see no reason why Rondo won't do one of the two of:

Being traded.

Sit out the year to be completely safe.

I really don't see Rondo just sitting out to improve our draft position.

Neither do I.  I can't imagine somebody that competitive being implicit on a tanking.

Any team with Rondo on it is going to the playoffs.  He's too good.

Danny needs to package anyone and anything but Rondo and Green to bring in a 3rd superstar big man. We'd have our own young big three. Could you imagine a core of :

Rondo
Green
Howard or Aldridge or Love


I'd take my chances.

Wiggins > Than all of those options. Howard is not the same player. They need to trade Rondo for the first 2014 pick they are offered. The ultimate goal is to tank for 3-4 years then become like the Thunder.

[Chief]

I see no reason why Rondo won't do one of the two of:

Being traded.

Sit out the year to be completely safe.

I really don't see Rondo just sitting out to improve our draft position.

Neither do I.  I can't imagine somebody that competitive being implicit on a tanking.

Any team with Rondo on it is going to the playoffs.  He's too good.

Danny needs to package anyone and anything but Rondo and Green to bring in a 3rd superstar big man. We'd have our own young big three. Could you imagine a core of :

Rondo
Green
Howard or Aldridge or Love


I'd take my chances.

Wiggins > Than all of those options. Howard is not the same player. They need to trade Rondo for the first 2014 pick they are offered. The ultimate goal is to tank for 3-4 years then become like the Thunder.

There is Wiggins and Randle but 12 teams tanking for them. I don't like the odds. Especially with our past. Danny should take advantage of the other teams tanking. He has already acquired some nice assets. It may be enough to land some nice all-stars in their prime to go around Green and Rondo. 

[D.o.s.]

Some of the more low-lying cities that have tanking teams might want to take flood precautions if Wiggins suffers a serious injury during his one-year unpaid apprenticeship in the NCAA.

[gar]

Don't think we are tanking. The Draft picks and expiring contracts can be used to move up in the draft and to package in trade. We are not Cleveland post LeBron (yet) or Orlando. To rely solely on the draft takes too long too risky. We can build quicker with Trades and in FA market once we have the cap space.

[BleedGreen1989]

The team as currently constructed has no true centers worthy of rotation minutes, does not have a single rim protector, lacks adequate floor spacing, still has no true, proven backup ball handler, lacks a guy who can be a legitimate #2 offensive option let alone a #1 option, and generally does not fit together very well.

I would heavily expect the team to play worse than the sum of its parts, which is why I'm pretty confident this team will be one of the worst in the Eastern Conference even if there's still some solid talent there.

And yet we will still probably not get a top 5 pick.

There is like an exact opposite of an arms race going on right now in the NBA lol

[BASS_THUMPER]

tanking..

giving up
throw in the towel
we cant win anyway

i became a fan because we didnt have this mentality
im sure "tank" is not in Ainge vocabulary. 

Red looking down on us with that cigar sayiin





"u betta not"

[wahz]

I'm baffled that the majority of posters seem to think we will be good and Rondo will play early. We won 41 games with PP and KG, and now they aren't here. While Rondo stays out, the team will be on a 20-30 win trajectory at best, imho.

[BballTim]

I see no reason why Rondo won't do one of the two of:

Being traded.

Sit out the year to be completely safe.

I really don't see Rondo just sitting out to improve our draft position.

Neither do I.  I can't imagine somebody that competitive being implicit on a tanking.

Any team with Rondo on it is going to the playoffs.  He's too good.

Danny needs to package anyone and anything but Rondo and Green to bring in a 3rd superstar big man. We'd have our own young big three. Could you imagine a core of :

Rondo
Green
Howard or Aldridge or Love


I'd take my chances.

Wiggins > Than all of those options. Howard is not the same player. They need to trade Rondo for the first 2014 pick they are offered. The ultimate goal is to tank for 3-4 years then become like the Thunder.

  That's the goal of every bad team. How's it worked out for every other team that's tried it?

[LooseCannon]

I'm baffled that the majority of posters seem to think we will be good and Rondo will play early. We won 41 games with PP and KG, and now they aren't here. While Rondo stays out, the team will be on a 20-30 win trajectory at best, imho.

I'm not saying the team will win 40 games, I'm just saying that the Celtics could find themselves in more of a 25-40 win trajectory rather than 20-30.

[gpap]

I see no reason why Rondo won't do one of the two of:

Being traded.

Sit out the year to be completely safe.

I really don't see Rondo just sitting out to improve our draft position.

Neither do I.  I can't imagine somebody that competitive being implicit on a tanking.

Any team with Rondo on it is going to the playoffs.  He's too good.

Danny needs to package anyone and anything but Rondo and Green to bring in a 3rd superstar big man. We'd have our own young big three. Could you imagine a core of :

Rondo
Green
Howard or Aldridge or Love


I'd take my chances.

Wiggins > Than all of those options. Howard is not the same player. They need to trade Rondo for the first 2014 pick they are offered. The ultimate goal is to tank for 3-4 years then become like the Thunder.

No thanks. I'd like to know how and why everyone is so certain that Wiggins will be the savior of this team and if the Celts will even land Wiggins in the first place.

Alot of unnecessary Wiggins love

[hwangjini_1]

Don't think we are tanking. The Draft picks and expiring contracts can be used to move up in the draft and to package in trade. We are not Cleveland post LeBron (yet) or Orlando. To rely solely on the draft takes too long too risky. We can build quicker with Trades and in FA market once we have the cap space.

ainge totally agrees with you i think. but also remember that even without another move, the celtics have 9 FIRST ROUND PICKS in the next 5 years and the option to switch with brooklyn in 2017.

i agree a top 5 pick in 2014 is a long shot, a long long shot. but brooklyn potentially will have real trouble in 3 years from now, and the celtics will have their picks.

also, it is not just using the draft for ainge. please recall how he used picks, players, and assets he got through the draft to get KG and ray.

the picks are not in isolation here. the chances of 1, 2, or maybe 3 of them being great picks in not insignificant. but even if none of them are top 5, they mean assets and good players who are keepers.

ainge is preparing for a quick and i believe effective rebuild. nothing is guaranteed, but look what he did with far far far less resources last time.

ainge is setting up the team to have a plethora of expiring contracts, young assets, and cap space, in the near future....and he is not done dealing yet.

[Birdman]

Orlando, Charlotte, Phoenix, Toronto, Milwaukee, Washington, are going to be worse than we are...if Dallas, Cleveland, Saramento, still have same team and are injured, we better than them...so i say RIGHT NOW, we be drafting around 10-15

[gpap]

I'm baffled that the majority of posters seem to think we will be good and Rondo will play early. We won 41 games with PP and KG, and now they aren't here. While Rondo stays out, the team will be on a 20-30 win trajectory at best, imho.

First off, why is everyone saying Rondo will be out for part of the season???

Has there been a report released stating the exact date Rondo will return from his injury?

And didn't Danny say a while back that Rondo should be ready for training camp?

Also, not quite sure why you are baffled.

If Ainge plays his cards right, our team this year could be even better than last year.

I already think that adding Wallace, Humph, Brooks and Bogans to Rondo, Green and Bradley is possibly already a 40 win team.

And that's not counting any other moves Danny might make

[rondoallaturca]

I'm baffled that the majority of posters seem to think we will be good and Rondo will play early. We won 41 games with PP and KG, and now they aren't here. While Rondo stays out, the team will be on a 20-30 win trajectory at best, imho.

First off, why is everyone saying Rondo will be out for part of the season???

Is there been a report released stating the exact date Rondo will return from his injury?

And didn't Danny say a while back that Rondo should be ready for training camp?

Also, not quite sure why you are baffled.

If Ainge plays his cards right, our team this year could be even better than last year.

I already think that adding Wallace, Humph, Brooks and Bogans to Rondo, Green and Bradley is possibly already a 40 win team.

And that's not counting any other moves Danny might make

I agree with you. Rondo is a competitor. Why in the world do people think he might play just half a season, or even not at all? He's not pulling a Rose. He's going to try and get back as quickly as possible, and he's stated that he's targeting opening day.

However, I don't agree with the 40 win assessment. That's literally impossible, even with Rondo. We're going to be winning around 30 games, which is bad, but not bad enough to beat out someone like Philly or Charlotte for a serious chance at a top 5 lottery pick.