A few points on the possibility of getting Howard

[Hemingway]

Ok, I've been reading a lot of nonsense on this topic on various forums and I wanted to add a bit of reality to it.


First, its not such an outlandish idea not to consider it. Ainge clearly wants Howard like he wanted KG years ago. When there is a top big guy on the move or unhappy where he is, you need to pay attention. Howards friendship with Smith and his with Rondo gives this legs.

Second, we need to agree that for this to happen, everyone has to be on board and want it to happen.

3rd we need to look at LAs position. They are in cap hell. So they are not going to want to do a sign and trade and take back money they will have to pay more than 2 fold on. So to get Howard we need to create a TPE by trading either Wallace or Hump to another team with picks.


Basically we could just trade Wallace or Humpries and picks for Smith (or possibly some combination of our other guys if they wanted them) (or possibly create another TPE and sign him)


The end result is if Rondo can talk Smith and Howard into wanting to come here it can happen. We have 9 1st round picks over 5 years and 7 of them we could trade. There will be teams that are under the minimum cap and might not mind absorbing Wallace if they get 3 or 4 1st round picks. If you can'r get anyone with the money anyways, and you need to spend it, and your cheap so you'll like the picks more.



Sorry for the rant but Ive just read so much nonsense on this subject I felt the need to clear things up. It all comes down to if they want to come here or not.

[sunnyd656]

TL;DR

What I did read was the title, and thought it was the best joke I've heard all year. Thank you.

[jdub1660]

It's a long shot by far but a possibility at least
Considering we might be getting a 7 mil trade exception from Nets
Package Humphries and Bradley for Josh Smith
Send Wallace and a 2 picks to (ex. Bobcats)
Trade exceptions and 3 first round picks for Dwight

Rondo, Brooks, Green, Smith, Dwight

Again though. Hard to see this happening without losing Green or Rondo, defeating the purpose

[jdub1660]

Without looking at the salaries now, could it be possible to amnesty Wallace, trade Bass and or Lee with picks to a team with cap space , sign Dwight , then flip Humprhies and Bradley for JSmoove?

[paidthecost2betheboss]

Without looking at the salaries now, could it be possible to amnesty Wallace, trade Bass and or Lee with picks to a team with cap space , sign Dwight , then flip Humprhies and Bradley for JSmoove?

Wallace cannot be amnestied. He can be stretched but many have pointed out that it's kinda counter productive.

[Hemingway]

why does there always have to be a jerk comment on this board? I didn't say we are defiantly getting howard, I just wanted to talk about the possibility. Is there an age limit around here?

[paidthecost2betheboss]

why does there always have to be a jerk comment on this board? I didn't say we are defiantly getting howard, I just wanted to talk about the possibility. Is there an age limit around here?

He's got 3 posts and it could be one of Doc's relatives so don't sweat it 

[fitzhickey]

TL;DR

What I did read was the title, and thought it was the best joke I've heard all year. Thank you.

that was slightly uncalled for, as their is a possibility, slim, but a possibility nonetheless. I know it may sound childish but if you dont have anything to say dont say it.

Hard to see this trade happening without losing Green or Rondo, but if we get both Smoove and D12 and only lose one of them then it would be another big 3.

[Roy H.]

It's a long shot by far but a possibility at least
Considering we might be getting a 7 mil trade exception from Nets
Package Humphries and Bradley for Josh Smith
Send Wallace and a 2 picks to (ex. Bobcats)
Trade exceptions and 3 first round picks for Dwight

Rondo, Brooks, Green, Smith, Dwight

Again though. Hard to see this happening without losing Green or Rondo, defeating the purpose

You can't combine trade exceptions - whether it be with other exceptions or salary - to make salaries match.

[letsgoblue86]

I can't believe anyone would want Howard after the circus that has occurred the last few years.

That along with his declining athleticism and play.

[clover]

Ok, I've been reading a lot of nonsense on this topic on various forums and I wanted to add a bit of reality to it.


First, its not such an outlandish idea not to consider it. Ainge clearly wants Howard like he wanted KG years ago. When there is a top big guy on the move or unhappy where he is, you need to pay attention. Howards friendship with Smith and his with Rondo gives this legs.

Second, we need to agree that for this to happen, everyone has to be on board and want it to happen.

3rd we need to look at LAs position. They are in cap hell. So they are not going to want to do a sign and trade and take back money they will have to pay more than 2 fold on. So to get Howard we need to create a TPE by trading either Wallace or Hump to another team with picks.


Basically we could just trade Wallace or Humpries and picks for Smith (or possibly some combination of our other guys if they wanted them) (or possibly create another TPE and sign him)


The end result is if Rondo can talk Smith and Howard into wanting to come here it can happen. We have 9 1st round picks over 5 years and 7 of them we could trade. There will be teams that are under the minimum cap and might not mind absorbing Wallace if they get 3 or 4 1st round picks. If you can'r get anyone with the money anyways, and you need to spend it, and your cheap so you'll like the picks more.



Sorry for the rant but Ive just read so much nonsense on this subject I felt the need to clear things up. It all comes down to if they want to come here or not.

Wallace or Humphries wouldn't get them a big enough TE for Howard.

[Onslaught]

I can't believe anyone would want Howard after the circus that has occurred the last few years.

That along with his declining athleticism and play.

I'm still in shock that anyone would want that guy as a Celtic. He's not a winner and never will be. He's got the body, but not the mind.

A part of me wants him to bolt from LA just to make them look bad. And the rest of me wants him to stay so he can drag them down.

[Celtics4ever]

why does there always have to be a jerk comment on this board? I didn't say we are defiantly getting howard, I just wanted to talk about the possibility. Is there an age limit around here?

Why would LA do it, face it is a pipe dream at best.

[BudweiserCeltic]

why does there always have to be a jerk comment on this board? I didn't say we are defiantly getting howard, I just wanted to talk about the possibility. Is there an age limit around here?

Why would LA do it, face it is a pipe dream at best.

Why wouldn't they? Lakers are in a terrible situation with a depleted roster, no assets going forward, and a very high payroll with little means to improve their roster.

So, either they blow it up (if this is the case they'll be interested in picks we would offer) or they still need talent to surround Kobe for his last hurrah.

More importantly, they risk losing Howard for nothing if they don't play ball.

[Hemingway]

The question is, could we clear enough money or create a large enough TPE to get howard if he wanted to sign here outright?

I don't think LA cares about us enough to not do a sign and trade, I think they don't do a sign and trade because they are in cap hell right now. Rondo would be the only player that they might consider worth the etra hit. With the new CBA rules they are getting hit more than just dollar for dollar over the cap. I don't completely understand it but I have read that they are going to pay a ton. So any idea of Bass + Lee + blah blah blah will never work.

Can we trade 2 guys together to create one TPE? Say Humpries and Lee and 2 firsts for a big TPE? Or wallace and Bass and 3 1sts for a huge TPE?