Danny might have stolen 2 or 3 lottery picks

[popcontest]

I will miss PP and KG like no others - but we all knew this was coming and because of that, this wasn't an emotional blow like the Perk trade.

In fact, setting the sadness aside, I'm downright ecstatic about the possibilities moving forward. Danny might have engineered his greatest heist since the 2007 Ray/KG swaps and I believe at least two of the three draft picks will be lottery picks -- and possibly all three of them. Here's why:

- No guarantee the Jason Kidd experiment will work; and it could be a disaster

- One or two injuries and the Nets as currently constituted are a marginal 2014 lottery team - same goes for the Hawks

- DWill is declining, fast

-Nets have no assets left to trade, will be very hard to put together a contender anytime soon after PP and KG are gone (or injured)

-Only upside is the owner is willing to spend and pay lux tax, but free agency is no guaranteed way to put together a winning team.

[rondohondo]

yup , I don't get how people don't see this , and just keeping responding by saying we are only getting picks in the 20's . Just trying to kill the trade before they even see how it pans out . A lot of the same people who were saying we threw away a title in 2011 by trading Perk for Green. How did that work out ?

In Danny we trust!

[RyNye]

Danny might have engineered his greatest heist since the 2007 Ray/KG swaps

Okay, seriously, that is beyond hyperbolic.

What is with people on these forums being so excited about this trade? I can understand if you think the trade is a good long-term move, and you can certainly make this argument, but I don't understand the people who are coming out and claiming this is some brilliant heist by Danny. It isn't. There is a possibility that this trade, when combined with future moves, will help our rebuild, but there is an equally strong possibility that it does NOTHING to help us.

It is still WAY to early to say something as ridiculous as "greatest heist since the 2007 Ray/KG swaps."

When will you people learn? How many years must there be supposedly strong drafts with "can't miss" prospects like Wiggins that don't pan out? You DO realize the odds are stacked extremely against the Celtics, right?

What Danny did is a high risk/high reward scenario. It might pay off, it might be a disaster. Way too early to tell. Anyone who thinks that this was a SAFE and can't-miss trade doesn't understand how the NBA works, plain and simple.

[Sketch5]

I think the 2016 and 2018 picks are huge and the swap option in '17 is big two.

We should be on the up swing of the rebuild by 2016 by that point and then to get a potential top 10 in two of the next 3 years to replace any of the aging players that are one their way out.

[rondohondo]

What is with people on these forums being so excited about this trade? I can understand if you think the trade is a good long-term move, and you can certainly make this argument, but I don't understand the people who are coming out and claiming this is some brilliant heist by Danny. It isn't. There is a possibility that this trade, when combined with future moves, will help our rebuild, but there is an equally strong possibility that it does NOTHING to help us.

At what does keeping an aging PP and KG do to help us ?

It is still WAY to early to say something as ridiculous as "greatest heist since the 2007 Ray/KG swaps."

When will you people learn? How many years must there be supposedly strong drafts with "can't miss" prospects like Wiggins that don't pan out? You DO realize the odds are stacked extremely against the Celtics, right?

Good thing we have like 8 picks in the next 4 years, with probably 3 or 4 of them being likely lottery picks .

What Danny did is a high risk/high reward scenario. It might pay off, it might be a disaster. Way too early to tell. Anyone who thinks that this was a SAFE and can't-miss trade doesn't understand how the NBA works, plain and simple.

No risk at all, the team was going nowhere with KG and PP as main guys.

[Snakehead]

Another positive: the future Nets picks we are getting.  Because the Nets have like two years here (maybe just one) and then they have no assets.  They don't really have a bench.  Who knows what Kidd will be like as a coach too.

Then those picks get lower and lower in the draft order.  If lower than us, we can swap in 2017 too.  Pretty awesome.

[paidthecost2betheboss]

Good thing we have like 8 picks in the next 4 years, with probably 3 or 4 of them being likely lottery picks .

I'm sorry...what?
3 or 4 of them. Can you elaborate?

[slamtheking]

Good thing we have like 8 picks in the next 4 years, with probably 3 or 4 of them being likely lottery picks .

I'm sorry...what?
3 or 4 of them. Can you elaborate?

Over the next 5 years, the C's will have 9 first round picks.  (5 of their own, 1 from the Clips and 3 from the Nets)

I'm not sure what we have for second rounders but if we stink, they'll be high seconds and either give us a shot at a decent talent in the draft or be a good trade chip since the talent at that point is about the same as a late first rounder but the contracts aren't guaranteed.

The 5 picks for the C's figure to lottery picks unless we strike gold and get that superstar we're hoping for.  I just don't see the current roster making the playoffs, at least not in 2014.  Too many things would have to go 'right' for the C's to make the playoffs
- Healthy Rondo playing like an MVP
- Healthy Sully averaging a double-double
- 2 of AB/Lee/Crawford/Brooks finding their outside shots and averaging double digits in points.
- Olynyk stepping in and averaging better than 10/5 as a starter.
- one of Iverson or Melo stepping up as a competent backup C.
- Wallace playing like he did 3 years ago.
- Green playing like he did the second half of the season.
- Bass finding his shot again.
-->in short, too much has to go right for them to make the playoffs, even in the East.

The 2 later Nets picks could very well be lottery picks since KG and PP figure to be gone by then and the Nets will have a tough time adding talent with their salary issues (as they stand now).  They have limited picks in which to improve with cheap talent so they're likely to go into decline  after next year. 

To add optimism, the picks from the Clips and Nets next year could also be lottery picks.  Their teams are relying on key players that either have injury histories or are old players or both.  Any health issues and their seasons could go south quickly.  Clips are in the West so if CP3 or Blake go down for any length of time they could very well miss the playoffs.  The Nets would probably need lengthy injuries to 3 of their proposed starters to miss the playoffs in the East but considering KG's and PP's age, that's not out of the realm of possibility.

[kozlodoev]

Good thing we have like 8 picks in the next 4 years, with probably 3 or 4 of them being likely lottery picks .

I'm sorry...what?
3 or 4 of them. Can you elaborate?

Over the next four years, we have our own four picks, the LA first rounder, and three first rounders from the Brooklyn deal. That makes eight. It's not a leap to say that most of our picks may be in the lottery, and perhaps one of the ones we got through trade. So the 3-4 seems like a conservative estimate, yes.

[LilRip]

i wouldn't say this was a heist but i think this is a pretty solid move from DA to help the franchise move forward. i still hate to see Pierce and KG go (for sentimental reasons. not practical ones).

[Chris]

This is my feeling.  This Brooklyn team is built like the mid 2000's Knicks...except now it is even harder for teams in the luxury tax to get better because of the new CBA.

Unless Lopez makes the leap to being a superstar, or Williams turns back the clock (and leaves it turned back) a few years, this team could really fall apart in a couple years.

Once KG and Pierce are gone (or too worn down), they just don't have much of a means to replace them, or upgrade anything.  They have no draft picks.  No young players.  Will only have the tax payers MLE, and their bad contracts to trade to get better.

Obviously future draft picks are always a risk.  But these ones have potential to really pay off.

[Donoghus]

I just hate the uncertainty of these picks and none are guaranteed to be in the lottery.  Really has the possiblity to be boom or bust.  If its bust, this team is looking at a decade of futility which scares the heck out of me.

[rondohondo]

I just hate the uncertainty of these picks and none are guaranteed to be in the lottery.  Really has the possiblity to be boom or bust.  If its bust, this team is looking at a decade of futility which scares the heck out of me.

what were we looking at if we kept PP and KG for another year? I don't see this as a risk at all....

[Celtics Insider]

Another positive: the future Nets picks we are getting.  Because the Nets have like two years here (maybe just one) and then they have no assets.  They don't really have a bench.  Who knows what Kidd will be like as a coach too.

Then those picks get lower and lower in the draft order.  If lower than us, we can swap in 2017 too.  Pretty awesome.

This is EXACTLY why I like this trade and why I DON'T get the hate against it. This isn't about the 2014 pick at all. If we really want a 2014 pick, I wouldn't mind trading Rondo for like a top 3 pick and other assets.

[Chris]

I just hate the uncertainty of these picks and none are guaranteed to be in the lottery.  Really has the possiblity to be boom or bust.  If its bust, this team is looking at a decade of futility which scares the heck out of me.

Well, I would be shocked if the goal is to use all, or even most of them.

They are assets, which Danny likely hopes to swap for quality players.