What it means to be a Celtic now?

[feckless]

nothing..



Paul Pierce -the Captain, Kevin Garnett the symbol..traded for

kris humphries, reggie evans, gerald wallace....

Lets GO Nets...after 50 + years as a Celtic diehard Danny Ainge has made being a member of this gloried team meaningless..way to go danny..I was wrong all those times I defended you.


Bring back integrity, honor, loyalty, tradition--fire danny ainge!

[bfrombleacher]

KG and Pierce get their last hurrah. We get a bunch of picks. The Nets get a chance to complete.

Where's the counterbalance? The Nets mortgage a lot of their future.

I don't get all the hate.

[Sketch5]

nothing..



Paul Pierce -the Captain, Kevin Garnett the symbol..traded for

kris humphries, reggie evans, gerald wallace....

Lets GO Nets...after 50 + years as a Celtic diehard Danny Ainge has made being a member of this gloried team meaningless..way to go danny..I was wrong all those times I defended you.


Bring back integrity, honor, loyalty, tradition--fire danny ainge!

Actually the trade was really for the extra pics. And if you let PP and Kg stay and get kicked out of the first round the next year or two, we only get one pic the next three drafts instead of two. Makes for a quicker rebuild if you can get a franchise player, and support player that is near good, or trade the pics for a established player.

And DA does right by sending both to a team that has a shot now at a title and beating the CHeat. Its not like he sent them to the Bobcats or bucks, or Kings...

[vinnie]

I posted this in another thread, but it fits here too.

Here is the real problem -- at least the way I see it. There really is no "Celtics Pride" anymore. There really is no loyalty anymore -- from either the players' or owners' side. Pro sports is nothing but another big business and that to me is why it sucks. As someone closing in on 60, I really do not enjoy having to go to my lineup card every year so I can figure out who is on my team. I am realistic and understand that things are never going to go back to the way they were, but I miss cheering for the same players year in and year out and watching them for their entire career. I know that this cannot happen anymore because it is a big business. So, Wyc and the other owners will take their big loss next year (because attendance will be woeful) and hope that Danny can draft right or package the picks and assets and again find lightning in a bottle the way he did with Ray and KG.

That said, I really have lost a lot of interest in all pro sports. I guess I am just a sentimental old fool, but pro sports interest me less and less every day.

The one thing I do not understand is how people seem to be able to come here and be thrilled and happy about what happened tonight and really show no sorrow at all for the fact that two of the best guys to ever play for this team will soon be gone. I guess I am just sentimental old fool.

[guava_wrench]

Loyalty? Ainge showed loyalty to Pierce and KG by sending them to a team where they have a decent chance for a ring instead of making them suffer here through a rebuild.

"Glorified team"? It is just a team. It is meaningless apart from the meaning we as individuals bring to it. It isn't Ainge's fault if you applied unrealistic meaning to the team.

If you look at who we got, they may lack in talent, but they are high effort guys. We got guys who at least work hard, and that might help make the games a bit more bearable as we lose.

Hopefully, we lose a lot this season and get a good pick next year. Whatever happens, we should at least get a lot of rebounds.

[guava_wrench]

"Celtics Pride" is nothing more than remembering that we won a lot early on. When we have a good team, people will exalt the phrase, but when we are bad, as we have often been since the 90s, the reality was there to see that we are just another team.

People like to talk mystical about sports but it is just a bunch of guys getting paid to entertain us.

[feckless]

Loyalty? Ainge showed loyalty to Pierce and KG by sending them to a team where they have a decent chance for a ring instead of making them suffer here through a rebuild.

"Glorified team"? It is just a team. It is meaningless apart from the meaning we as individuals bring to it. It isn't Ainge's fault if you applied unrealistic meaning to the team.

If you look at who we got, they may lack in talent, but they are high effort guys. We got guys who at least work hard, and that might help make the games a bit more bearable as we lose.

Hopefully, we lose a lot this season and get a good pick next year. Whatever happens, we should at least get a lot of rebounds.

I said gloried and I was referring to the history, style of play ,  what the Celtics accomplished and how they accomplished it.  Not sure with your attitude why you are a Celtic fan but it sure isn't because you understand what Red, Russ, Couz, Tommy, KC, Dave, John, Larry, Kevin and DJ stand for.


Tommy Point for Vinnie he gets it!

[TheTruthFot18]

KG and Pierce get their last hurrah. We get a bunch of picks. The Nets get a chance to complete.

Where's the counterbalance? The Nets mortgage a lot of their future.

I don't get all the hate.

This.

Our big three had a three year window that we really extended to 5-6. The Nets are literally in a win this year or bust. KG and Pierce can really only give them one more season of what they're expected to contribute.

Plus their payroll is beyond crazy.

[greg_kite]

Not sure if I should cry or throw up.  Perhaps the worst night in Celtics history.

Pick a guy named Kelly with long hair and T-Rex arms, then trade the two best Celtics since Larry Bird, talent wise and heart wise, to a New York team for a guy best known as Kim Kardashian's husband at $12 million, a guy making $30 million for 3 more years that will come off the bench and shoot around 40% and 3 draft picks that will probably be in the 20s. 

The only redeeming part about this trade is that I can watch KG and PP play on a great team again, just in New York. 

So long Celtics basketball, it was nice knowing you.

Is there anyone that likes this trade?  Is there any way this Euro guy is the next Pau Gasol?  How did we not get Marshon Brooks or Mason Plumlee in this deal?  Or both?  God I'm going to vomit.

I've always been an optimist and believer in Ainge but I see absolutely nothing here.  I think the Russian mob threatened Ainge's family.  There is no other explanation.

[KG Living Legend]

 It means you better swallow your pride for a while. And pick up a number two team like the Nets or Pacers.

[D.o.s.]

"Celtics Pride" is nothing more than remembering that we won a lot early on. When we have a good team, people will exalt the phrase, but when we are bad, as we have often been since the 90s, the reality was there to see that we are just another team.

People like to talk mystical about sports but it is just a bunch of guys getting paid to entertain us.

Sort of. I think your way of thinking, which is not wrong, misses a lot of the community surrounding the Celtics fanbase, and a lot of what goes in to making people lifelong sports fans of our team.

"Celtic Pride" is a way to transcend the more base ways of choosing a team to support--an alma mater, say, or a hometown team. We are fans of the winningest team in basketball history. We have more numbers hanging in our rafters than any other team in the league. We are the franchise that birthed the first dynasty, the first player's union (thanks Tommy!), the first all-black starting five, the best white dudes that have ever played baske, ball in their own eras; we revolutionized the fast break; we were the first team that proved to the most media centric quarter of the country at large that basketball was worth following, worth supporting, and wasn't going to crumble at the feet of an athletic masterpiece like Wilt Chamberlain.

The Boston Celtics are important for more reasons than ttheir market or that they're a sports team for a popular sport.

We directly contributed to making the NBA what it is today. And the NBA today is awesome. That separates us from being just another sports team, and it always will.

[guava_wrench]

Loyalty? Ainge showed loyalty to Pierce and KG by sending them to a team where they have a decent chance for a ring instead of making them suffer here through a rebuild.

"Glorified team"? It is just a team. It is meaningless apart from the meaning we as individuals bring to it. It isn't Ainge's fault if you applied unrealistic meaning to the team.

If you look at who we got, they may lack in talent, but they are high effort guys. We got guys who at least work hard, and that might help make the games a bit more bearable as we lose.

Hopefully, we lose a lot this season and get a good pick next year. Whatever happens, we should at least get a lot of rebounds.

I said gloried and I was referring to the history, style of play ,  what the Celtics accomplished and how they accomplished it.  Not sure with your attitude why you are a Celtic fan but it sure isn't because you understand what Red, Russ, Couz, Tommy, KC, Dave, John, Larry, Kevin and DJ stand for.


Tommy Point for Vinnie he gets it!

If style of play is what matters to you, why do you only mention hall of famers on winning teams? Sounds to me like a sense of entitlement.

They won the same way other franchises have won -- by having talent and executing.

I understand that there is no magic going on. The Celtics are playing by the same rules as all teams and they have to make difficult decisions like they did today. As a true fan, I root for them as they are, not based on some mythicism. I rooted for them when they were winning in the past, and I rooted for them no less in 2006-07 when they were horrible and I cheered them on live as they ended their all-time longest losing streak that season.

[guava_wrench]

"Celtics Pride" is nothing more than remembering that we won a lot early on. When we have a good team, people will exalt the phrase, but when we are bad, as we have often been since the 90s, the reality was there to see that we are just another team.

People like to talk mystical about sports but it is just a bunch of guys getting paid to entertain us.

Sort of. I think your way of thinking, which is not wrong, misses a lot of the community surrounding the Celtics fanbase, and a lot of what goes in to making people lifelong sports fans of our team.

"Celtic Pride" is a way to transcend the more base ways of choosing a team to support--an alma mater, say, or a hometown team. We are fans of the winningest team in basketball history. We have more numbers hanging in our rafters than any other team in the league. We are the franchise that birthed the first dynasty, the first player's union (thanks Tommy!), the first all-black starting five, the best white dudes that have ever played baske, ball in their own eras; we revolutionized the fast break; we were the first team that proved to the most media centric quarter of the country at large that basketball was worth following, worth supporting, and wasn't going to crumble at the feet of an athletic masterpiece like Wilt Chamberlain.

The Boston Celtics are important for more reasons than ttheir market or that they're a sports team for a popular sport.

We directly contributed to making the NBA what it is today. And the NBA today is awesome. That separates us from being just another sports team, and it always will.

Sadly, almost all you mention above that makes the Celtics special happened over 40 years ago. Many fans do not seek out transcendent myths to justify their being a fan. The reality is that people here were fans first, believers in "Celtic Pride" second. Buying into the fancy talk is a product of being a fan and fans do that everywhere.

I consider it nonsense when Red Sox fans do it because their team is insignificant compared to the Yankees. Yet, so many Red Sox fans will rant about how evil the Yankees are--the Yankees are the Celtics of MLB (except more so now that the Lakers have pretty much caught up to us on success measures)!

I am all for appreciating a teams tradition, but I shake my head when people start forming exalted narratives about their sports teams.

[tenn_smoothie]

I posted this in another thread, but it fits here too.

Here is the real problem -- at least the way I see it. There really is no "Celtics Pride" anymore. There really is no loyalty anymore -- from either the players' or owners' side. Pro sports is nothing but another big business and that to me is why it sucks. As someone closing in on 60, I really do not enjoy having to go to my lineup card every year so I can figure out who is on my team. I am realistic and understand that things are never going to go back to the way they were, but I miss cheering for the same players year in and year out and watching them for their entire career. I know that this cannot happen anymore because it is a big business. So, Wyc and the other owners will take their big loss next year (because attendance will be woeful) and hope that Danny can draft right or package the picks and assets and again find lightning in a bottle the way he did with Ray and KG.

That said, I really have lost a lot of interest in all pro sports. I guess I am just a sentimental old fool, but pro sports interest me less and less every day.

The one thing I do not understand is how people seem to be able to come here and be thrilled and happy about what happened tonight and really show no sorrow at all for the fact that two of the best guys to ever play for this team will soon be gone. I guess I am just sentimental old fool.

but you and I both know, Vin, that Celtic Pride had been resurrected with this group - they had pride, toughness, togetherness, that perfect touch of arrogance and they sincerely cared about each other and were on their way to another banner .......................... until Feb. 24, 2011.

Thanks Danny

[rocknrollforyoursoul]

KG and Pierce get their last hurrah. We get a bunch of picks. The Nets get a chance to complete.

Where's the counterbalance? The Nets mortgage a lot of their future.

I don't get all the hate.

I don't, either. Danny got some pieces to work with, ones that could help directly with their play or indirectly as part of another trade.

I understand people's disappointment—I, too, am bummed that we've seen that last of Pierce and KG in Green—but it's rare (and difficult to make happen) to see legends go out "in style," and if Danny kept them next season, their Celtic careers would likely have ended with another first-round defeat, which is nearly as unceremonious as this trade. He got several assets for them, which is about as much as can be reasonably expected.

Maybe we should ease up a bit on the hyperbole; this year's team isn't likely to be the worst team in Celtics history, and let's not forget that it was a mere 7 years ago that the Cs were downright awful, including an 18-GAME losing streak. I'm sure we'll be back in the thick of things in less than 7 years.