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If not now, when? If not this, what?
« Reply #420 on: June 27, 2013, 06:12:44 PM »

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Win, win, win.
Paul and Kevin get to play for another championship run in their twilight.
Rich Russian Nets get to make splash in Knicks’ faces and bring instant credibility (and marketability) to “new” franchise.
Boston jump starts rebuild, gets picks beyond the Nets’ window, and absorb bad contracts at a time when they will be having half the team on rookie/cheap contracts and have to meet the NBA minimum salary threshold. Cap room? Do you really think premium free agents will be banging at the door of a Boston team during its down cycle?

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« Reply #421 on: June 27, 2013, 06:13:23 PM »

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2014 pick is protected? That is bs

They figure to be good at least next year so it probably won't matter.

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« Reply #422 on: June 27, 2013, 06:13:45 PM »

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2014 = slight protection

16 and 18 NO PROTECTION!!!!

Slight protection in that Atlanta has the right to switch picks due to the Joe Johnson Trade.

So hypothetically, if the Nets pick was 4 and Atlanta's was 7, they could swap.

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« Reply #423 on: June 27, 2013, 06:14:08 PM »

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2014 = slight protection

16 and 18 NO PROTECTION!!!!

WOW, If it flips to 2015, that may change as well, since Atlanta has 1st dibs.

We could have 3 in 2015 unprotected as well as 2 in 2016 and 2 in 2018 unprotected.

I am rooting for injuries to the Nets and Clippers in those years  ;D

Which Nets picks do the Hawks have first dibs on?

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« Reply #424 on: June 27, 2013, 06:14:17 PM »

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Do people want this??

I don't want this.

This is going to make me barf. KG and Pierce, the heart and soul of our team, for the Kardashian, the shell of Gerald Wallace, and 3 picks in the 25-30 range.

Please don't let this happen.

Yeah, I know. It's almost as if ainge wants the celtics to suck for the next few years, or something.

I'm staggered that people are still in denial about this. Any doubt at all should have gone out the window when they let Doc walk for a 1st 2 years from now.

How can one not read the writing on the wall?

Agreed. We are going into rebuild. No doubt about it. The question is whether we can get more for PP and KG. we will see.
In any case if this deal goes thru BKN will be awesome next year.
Celtics fan for life.

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« Reply #425 on: June 27, 2013, 06:14:23 PM »

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Earlier i said thsi team would win 20 games next season, now im saying 15  :'(....this is how u ruin ur fanbase and going to be bad for years to come and for WHAT??? Draft picks?? Those picks may turn out to be duds
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

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« Reply #426 on: June 27, 2013, 06:14:34 PM »

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PG - Some Rookie
SG - Bradly/Lee
SF - Green
PF - Sullinger
C- Some Rookie

Benchwarmers - Wallace, Bass and other vets.

Keep Rondo out until December then showcase him for the deadline.

Wa-la - A bottom five team.

I admit. That is one boatload of suck there. Great plan!  Aaaaaaaaalllllllllll aboard for the wiggins express.
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« Reply #427 on: June 27, 2013, 06:14:51 PM »

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2014 = slight protection

16 and 18 NO PROTECTION!!!!

WOW, If it flips to 2015, that may change as well, since Atlanta has 1st dibs.

We could have 3 in 2015 unprotected as well as 2 in 2016 and 2 in 2018 unprotected.

I am rooting for injuries to the Nets and Clippers in those years  ;D

Which Nets picks do the Hawks have first dibs on?

They can swap in '14 or '15.  Not both, though.

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« Reply #428 on: June 27, 2013, 06:15:28 PM »

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2014 = slight protection

16 and 18 NO PROTECTION!!!!

...in awe and disbelief...
In the summer of 2017, I predicted this team would not win a championship for the next 10 years.

3 down, 7 to go.

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« Reply #429 on: June 27, 2013, 06:15:57 PM »

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Why are people so shocked? You had to know this was coming eventually. Time to pay the piper.

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« Reply #430 on: June 27, 2013, 06:16:11 PM »

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Who makes this team?
Rondo
Lee
Sully
Green
Bass
Bradley
Wallace
Humphries
Bogans
Evans
Crawford
Draft pick this year
Melo
Williams
Randolph

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« Reply #431 on: June 27, 2013, 06:16:21 PM »

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My thoughts:

1) Gerald Wallace will either be a collar around our necks or a valuable player.  He'd been a very good player for several years prior to completely stinking last year.  He was an all-star in 2010, and it was deserved, and he probably could have been one for several years prior.  In the following two seasons he was still a solid an valuable player.  He completely hit the wall this last year, and I don't know why.  He admitted as much that he had no confidence.  But he's only one year removed from seven years of good-to-great basketball, and is certainly not over the hill.

2) It's almost certain that at least one other team will be involved.  This team (or teams) will serve one of two purposes.  They will either have additional contracts to dump to clear salary in pursuit of some free agent, and will give us additional picks and/or young players for the service of taking on these obligations (for instance, Dallas), or they will instead take most of what we get from the Nets in exchange for players we actually want (for instance, Atlanta).  This deal, even if the Nets and Celtics agree on what their giving each other, is far from done.  They're getting their negotiations out of the way so that the Celtics can find other teams to fill one of the other two roles, but in a way that makes it less complicated that a three-or-four-way negotiation.  Also they want to clear it with KG, so that there isn't the risk of him nixing it at the last minute, but rather he nixes it now or never.  If you're a third team looking to dump salaries, you don't want to be hung up on the whims of KG.

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« Reply #432 on: June 27, 2013, 06:16:43 PM »

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Pierce and Terry to NETS
KG to LAKERS

NETS
G Wallace to LAKERS
Humphries to CELTICS

LAKERS
Gasol to CELTICS

2014 and 2018 NETS pick to Celtics
2016 NETS Pick to LAKERS

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« Reply #433 on: June 27, 2013, 06:16:57 PM »

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2014 = slight protection

16 and 18 NO PROTECTION!!!!

WOW, If it flips to 2015, that may change as well, since Atlanta has 1st dibs.

We could have 3 in 2015 unprotected as well as 2 in 2016 and 2 in 2018 unprotected.

I am rooting for injuries to the Nets and Clippers in those years  ;D

Which Nets picks do the Hawks have first dibs on?

They can swap in '14 or '15.  Not both, though.

thanks, TP. Sounds great for us. A swap on one of those two years really is minor protection

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« Reply #434 on: June 27, 2013, 06:18:50 PM »

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I don't like the Wallace contract, but we do have the stretch (right?), and he's an expiring in two years anyway.
Mmm ... $30 million over three years so that is $30 over 7 years if use stretch provision. About $4.3 million per annum.

That would create enough wiggle room cap wise to make major free agent additions if available. Good idea.

Don't think there's be any reason to use it this year, so $20 million over 5 perhaps.

No no, you don't get it. Ainge should force Wallace to play 48 minutes a game every game. We WANT the celtics to suck for the next 2 years.

Wiggins or bust!   ;D
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