Schroeder or Muhammad?

[lightspeed5]

if schroader gets drafted, that means we're trading rondo eventually. its the wrong direction to take

[Smutzy#9]

is either one something we really need?

[lightspeed5]

is either one something we really need?

shabazz is a scorer. we need a backup 3 behind green. shabazz is also a scoring option, something we really dont have.

do you know how many games i saw courtney lee score 0 pts?

[LatterDayCelticsfan]

How many? Anyway what`s Shabbazz bringing on a rookie deal that Barbossa ain`t on a vet min contract?

[Celtics4ever]

How many? Anyway what`s Shabbazz bringing on a rookie deal that Barbossa ain`t on a vet min contract?

Selfishness and immaturity

[CFAN38]

Hands down I take Muhammad. If he is a bust so be it he will be on a rookie deal and traded away like every bust before him but the potential is there. To me he is a 3/2 in the mold of Caron Butler or less athletic JR SMith and would be a great 6th man. Coming off the bench his shoot first mentality will be masked by the fact that his role would be to score. He isn't a kid who you draft with the expectation of being a solid role player who does the little things to help you win. He is offense off the bench...

[moiso]

^even if he becomes the next ball hog michael beasley, thats still better than anyone else available at 16.

Nope.  Not having Beasley is better than having Beasley so this statement is false.

[clover]

if schroader gets drafted, that means we're trading rondo eventually. its the wrong direction to take

Agreed, Rondo is headed out if they draft Schroeder (whether or not Schroeder proves to be a suitable replacement).

And trading Rondo will bring back a much better asset than Shabazz on the market.

[Snakehead]

if schroader gets drafted, that means we're trading rondo eventually. its the wrong direction to take

It absolutely doesn't.  Why is this said?

We have no backup PG on this team.  Shroeder could be that.  There are similarities with Rondo, but here's the big difference: he can shoot.

If it is believed he is the best player, take him.  He no only fits a need then, but an asset.  Turns out you can have two long, athletic PGs on your team.  It's allowed.

[boscel33]

if schroader gets drafted, that means we're trading rondo eventually. its the wrong direction to take

It absolutely doesn't.  Why is this said?

We have no backup PG on this team.  Shroeder could be that.  There are similarities with Rondo, but here's the big difference: he can shoot.

If it is believed he is the best player, take him.  He no only fits a need then, but an asset.  Turns out you can have two long, athletic PGs on your team.  It's allowed.

Because you don't step into rebuilding mode by drafting a backup PG in the first round.

[Snakehead]

if schroader gets drafted, that means we're trading rondo eventually. its the wrong direction to take

It absolutely doesn't.  Why is this said?

We have no backup PG on this team.  Shroeder could be that.  There are similarities with Rondo, but here's the big difference: he can shoot.

If it is believed he is the best player, take him.  He no only fits a need then, but an asset.  Turns out you can have two long, athletic PGs on your team.  It's allowed.

Because you don't step into rebuilding mode by drafting a backup PG in the first round.

First of all, in this draft any rotation player is a win.  It's a bad draft.

Second, he's a backup because he's playing behind Rajon Rondo.

Eric Bledsoe is also a backup PG right now.  Doesn't mean he's not a very valuable piece and a quality player.

[BleedGreen1989]

if schroader gets drafted, that means we're trading rondo eventually. its the wrong direction to take

It absolutely doesn't.  Why is this said?

We have no backup PG on this team.  Shroeder could be that.  There are similarities with Rondo, but here's the big difference: he can shoot.

If it is believed he is the best player, take him.  He no only fits a need then, but an asset.  Turns out you can have two long, athletic PGs on your team.  It's allowed.

Because you don't step into rebuilding mode by drafting a backup PG in the first round.

Yea this is just plain wrong.

If you get a solid back up PG with the #16 pick, good draft for you.

[lon3lytoaster]

if schroader gets drafted, that means we're trading rondo eventually. its the wrong direction to take

It absolutely doesn't.  Why is this said?

We have no backup PG on this team.  Shroeder could be that.  There are similarities with Rondo, but here's the big difference: he can shoot.

If it is believed he is the best player, take him.  He no only fits a need then, but an asset.  Turns out you can have two long, athletic PGs on your team.  It's allowed.

Because you don't step into rebuilding mode by drafting a backup PG in the first round.

Yea this is just plain wrong.

If you get a solid back up PG with the #16 pick, good draft for you.

This. The middle of the draft is for drafting backups and rotation players. You can't really ask for anything better outside the lottery. And plus, when was the last time we actually had a backup PG? Rondo is the sole playmaker for this team and has been for a long time. He needs help.

[Sully7]

Muhammad is sliding to the mid-first round because his dad is an idiot not for any behavior he has presented.  Everyone comments on the age issue...his dads report, not his statement....everyone talks about him wanting the ball....isn't that what you want a scorer think at the end of a game...His character issues are so over blown ...  i think a lot of this stems from his diagnoses of Tourette's syndrome and teams being weary of players with any sort of psychological diagnosis. 

If I were to pick apart his game, having actually watched several UCLA games, he looks a little heavy/out of shape for an elite player (Paul Pierce anyone), he does go left a lot (Jeff Green only goes right), he used his body to bully around players who couldn't match up and won't get those probably won't get those chances in the NBA.

Shabazz is a scoring 2 or 3 and the C's have far too many 2's but for what he could bring to the table I would take him in a second and try hard to move Terry/Lee/Crawford.

[lightspeed5]

This team so badly needs a socrer its not even funny. Schroader isnt even that good of a point guard. If he was so good at passing, why did he average only 3 assists per game? Rondo was averaging like 12 just in high school, and was breaking AAU records left and right as well as NCAA records.

I like shabazz because hes a straight up scorer, very quick, and he's a left-handed shooter so thats an x-factor quality that very few players have.

Shabazz: Left handed wing with elite level speed, athleticism and skills ... Great scorer who can fill it up in a variety of ways ... Very smart, intense individual who is highly motivated and driven to be great ... Mature offensive game, already has a strong NBA body, incredible length (appears to have a wingspan in the neighborhood of 7-feet), is a man amongst boys, very athletic and explosive ... Quick first step and handle make him difficult to contain one on one ... Improving jumpshot and handle, wired to score the ball, can physically dominate his opponents, pull up jumper and ability to put the ball on the floor have improved considerably ... Box game is very advanced for his age ... Great on the offensive glass for a 2 guard ... Knows how to work the baseline and score, terrific in transition, hard worker ... Shows signs of having a killer instinct and will assertively get on his teammates when they're not living up to his expectations ... The most prolific scorer in the country ...

Fierce competitor with a scorers mentality ... Displays a killer instinct missing from many other prospect's games ... Uses screens to create catch-and-shoot opportunities well ... Quick lefty release, solid mechanices with range out to three point territory ... Can use his body to create space and get shots off near the basket ... Length (6-11 + wingspan) helps him get his shot off and create post-up opportunities against smaller wings ... Not afraid of contact and has the ability to get to the line at a high rate ... Was very proficient as an offensive rebounder, has a nose for the ball ... Developed a runner that looks very promising and was quite difficult to stop ... Noted for a strong work ethic, plays with a chip on his shoulder ... Wants the ball in the clutch and not shaken in end of game situations ... Length gives him potential as a defender ... Athleticism is quite solid and has an ability to play major minutes at optimum conditioning level ... Makes his move very quickly, does not stop the ball or take a lot of time off of the clock ... Shows a strong passion for the game and a will to improve ...

Shabazz is a terrific long term prospect ... He can score the ball in his sleep and is just scratching the surface of his ability ... Once he improves the consistency on his jumpshot he will almost be impossible to defend, great work ethic and drive to succeed will take him a long way ...