Should the ownership looking for new GM?

[D.o.s.]

You have a very strange definition of what "lost" means.

From time when he traded Perk, left the team without e big man to help KG. This years almost swept by NYK. Some people like miserable status...poor you

  You're really kidding yourself if you think the Celts would have done better against the Knicks with Perk instead of Green.

Absolutely.

If you want to pin anything on the Perk trade, pin it on the fact that we had a locker room that couldn't handle losing one of its guys half a season early.

[tyrone biggums]

After losing Perk, Ray and now Doc, keeping in consideration delicate situation with KG and PP after Doc is gone, the assets of great Cs team are reduced in minimum. Is clear now a terrible future mostly if DA, actual GM, does not seem to be in condition to give optimism about the future that I see dark. So, starting a new zero point, rebuilding the team, should the ownership looking for new GM?

Jesus are people still on the Perk thing? I get it. The dude was a hard worker. But enough. Fab Melo and Jeff Green were more than enough for Perk. Perk has done nothing in OKC

People need to stop acting like Danny traded Bill Russell for Adam Morrison.

[paidthecost2betheboss]

From time when he traded Perk, left the team without e big man to help KG. This years almost swept by NYK. Some people like miserable status...poor you

If I remember correctly it was Doc 100% behind their "Take down Miami" Plan which was small ball and lotta folks 6ft8 and down not big men. They even said as much In Europe that this season (last season) was ALL about Miami. Doc berated and sat Darko who was bigger and badder than Perk was and woulda punished Lebron and Wade if they drove. Dude said he'd kill for the team.

Crazy stuff but he woulda given pause to anyone and his 4 fouls woulda been...HARD or whatever he was asked to do. He could pass the ball over everyones head while standing...did it pretty good.

Blaming Danny for the 1st round exit is ignoring everything that was said and by who'm in the pre-season.

This is hilarious.

Really?
In what way?
Darko was/is nuts which isn't bad if you need an enforcer. He headbutted Perk who proceeded to flop.

You are easily amused.

In multiple ways.

First, I don't recall Doc "berating" Darko. As a matter of fact, I don't really recall Doc ever berating anyone.

Second, he didn't "sit" Darko -- who was never supposed to be starting anyhow. Because, sadly, the guy isn't going nearly as hard in games as he is in postgame press conferences.

Third, if the departure of a player who didn't have the mental makeup to accept sitting on the bench for a bit(and this is a situation can really turn around quickly) is what makes or breaks your team, then you have bigger problems than said departure.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwtkOylQo88

This is going off topic so I'm done. Added a link to vid that had me exited. Considering how we used our bigs and who we used and how they produced maybe a little more time could been given to a guy they KNEW needed tuning. It wasn't a revelation that the guy had issues but he had a great amount of potential and we were too [dang]ed busy going small. I am certain if the plan hadn't been small ball a little more patience would have been given.

[eugen]

I'm sure that Danny's course of action has ownership's blessing.

Danny has made some mistakes, but he also delivered us a championship and five years of high-level basketball out of nowhere.  That earns a lot of good will.

Don’t enjoy still with glory of 2007-08. Now is 2013. Look at MIAMI HEAT the way of building the team and keeping a great roster level very season. Did they trade Bosh, Wade or key palyers? DID MIAMI sign anonymous players fro China league? See how Pat Riley built the team. The catastrophic work done by DA started in 2010-11. Most important I see a dark future. Similar to Detroit Piston if you assume that KG and PP will go after Doc.

And how exactly did Pat Riley "build" the team after Bosh, Wade and and Lebron?

Let me guess, he signed a couple of good, older players in support roles. Hmmm, who does that remind me of?

Also, in case you missed the memo, Bosh and Wade are not 37 years old, and are definitely not on their last legs.

Why you faking not understanding at all? Riley offered contract to Miller, Ray, and Battier? DA picked up anonymous players form China...You see the difference. Plus.He never tried to trade Wade, Bosh, Haslem, and Chalmers...Constructive and not destructive...

It seems you're faking not understanding. Offering contracts to Miller, Ray, and Battier is exactly the same as offering contracts to Posey, Shaq, the other O'Neal, and even Sam Cassell. With the small difference that Pierce and Garnett weren't 35+ years old when those moves happened -- and now they are(and we did try the same approach by signing Terry and Lee last season; how do you like the way that worked out?)

If you think "building" around stars in his prime is the same as building around stars who are scraping the bottom of the barrel, you're sorely mistaken.

Cassell???You are living in 2007-2008 I guess. Now is 2013. So, face the reality.

[tarheelsxxiii]

Yeah, he was handed a championship. Then he threw one away in 2011. He reminds me of a trust fund baby that was handed him everything in life and does just well enough to maintain most of it.

He also openly dangled everyone at every trade deadline. That, along with the Perkins trade, ruined the culture here. Our window ended with that trade, not last year.

[rondohondo]

I'm sure that Danny's course of action has ownership's blessing.

Danny has made some mistakes, but he also delivered us a championship and five years of high-level basketball out of nowhere.  That earns a lot of good will.

Don’t enjoy still with glory of 2007-08. Now is 2013. Look at MIAMI HEAT the way of building the team and keeping a great roster level very season. Did they trade Bosh, Wade or key palyers? DID MIAMI sign anonymous players fro China league? See how Pat Riley built the team. The catastrophic work done by DA started in 2010-11. Most important I see a dark future. Similar to Detroit Piston if you assume that KG and PP will go after Doc.

The faith expressed here in a guy whose drafting legend on this blog is a pure fabrication, and whose active player selections are about like his drafting - 50/50 - will provide the humor as this franchise slides into the abyss.

2004-#15 Al Jefferson, best player picked after was Josh Smith at #17. Also drafted an NBA 1st team defender Tony Allen, and Lebrons step dad

2005-#18 Gerlad Green, best players picked after were David Lee (#30)Monta Ellis(2nd rd). The whole league passed on them in the first round.

2006- Got Rondo, probably the best player in the draft(aldridge was also in this draft)

2007-traded Green for Ray Allen, drafted Big baby in 2nd round

2008-#31 pick JR Giddens, best players picked after Pekovic,Chalmers, DeAndre Jordan, Asik. He definitely had a bad draft here .

2009- Didn't have a 1st rd pick, took Lester Hudson with almost the last pick of the draft

2010-#19 Avery Bradley, best player picked after was Lance Stevenson at #40 who had character issues

2011-#25 Drafted JuJuan Johnson. Missed out on Jimmy Butler#30 and Chandler Parsons #38

2012- #20 Sully, probably no better player was selected after Sully

Besides 2008 and 2011, Danny has had very strong draft picking a top 5 PG in the league , a first team all defender(Allen), a 2nd team all defender(Bradley), a 20/10 guy(Jefferson). I give him a pass on the Gerald Green pick because every celtic fan wanted Green at that time and he had huge upside .

[kozlodoev]

I'm sure that Danny's course of action has ownership's blessing.

Danny has made some mistakes, but he also delivered us a championship and five years of high-level basketball out of nowhere.  That earns a lot of good will.

Don’t enjoy still with glory of 2007-08. Now is 2013. Look at MIAMI HEAT the way of building the team and keeping a great roster level very season. Did they trade Bosh, Wade or key palyers? DID MIAMI sign anonymous players fro China league? See how Pat Riley built the team. The catastrophic work done by DA started in 2010-11. Most important I see a dark future. Similar to Detroit Piston if you assume that KG and PP will go after Doc.

And how exactly did Pat Riley "build" the team after Bosh, Wade and and Lebron?

Let me guess, he signed a couple of good, older players in support roles. Hmmm, who does that remind me of?

Also, in case you missed the memo, Bosh and Wade are not 37 years old, and are definitely not on their last legs.

Why you faking not understanding at all? Riley offered contract to Miller, Ray, and Battier? DA picked up anonymous players form China...You see the difference. Plus.He never tried to trade Wade, Bosh, Haslem, and Chalmers...Constructive and not destructive...

It seems you're faking not understanding. Offering contracts to Miller, Ray, and Battier is exactly the same as offering contracts to Posey, Shaq, the other O'Neal, and even Sam Cassell. With the small difference that Pierce and Garnett weren't 35+ years old when those moves happened -- and now they are(and we did try the same approach by signing Terry and Lee last season; how do you like the way that worked out?)

If you think "building" around stars in his prime is the same as building around stars who are scraping the bottom of the barrel, you're sorely mistaken.

Cassell???You are living in 2007-2008 I guess. Now is 2013. So, face the reality.

That's the only comment you have on what I wrote? It seems you're really _not_ faking not understanding

[tyrone biggums]

I'm sure that Danny's course of action has ownership's blessing.

Danny has made some mistakes, but he also delivered us a championship and five years of high-level basketball out of nowhere.  That earns a lot of good will.

Don’t enjoy still with glory of 2007-08. Now is 2013. Look at MIAMI HEAT the way of building the team and keeping a great roster level very season. Did they trade Bosh, Wade or key palyers? DID MIAMI sign anonymous players fro China league? See how Pat Riley built the team. The catastrophic work done by DA started in 2010-11. Most important I see a dark future. Similar to Detroit Piston if you assume that KG and PP will go after Doc.

And how exactly did Pat Riley "build" the team after Bosh, Wade and and Lebron?

Let me guess, he signed a couple of good, older players in support roles. Hmmm, who does that remind me of?

Also, in case you missed the memo, Bosh and Wade are not 37 years old, and are definitely not on their last legs.

Why you faking not understanding at all? Riley offered contract to Miller, Ray, and Battier? DA picked up anonymous players form China...You see the difference. Plus.He never tried to trade Wade, Bosh, Haslem, and Chalmers...Constructive and not destructive...

It seems you're faking not understanding. Offering contracts to Miller, Ray, and Battier is exactly the same as offering contracts to Posey, Shaq, the other O'Neal, and even Sam Cassell. With the small difference that Pierce and Garnett weren't 35+ years old when those moves happened -- and now they are(and we did try the same approach by signing Terry and Lee last season; how do you like the way that worked out?)

If you think "building" around stars in his prime is the same as building around stars who are scraping the bottom of the barrel, you're sorely mistaken.

Cassell???You are living in 2007-2008 I guess. Now is 2013. So, face the reality.

After mentioning that you would want Chalmers over Rondo (I believe that was you, if not my apologies) I'm not taking anything you say seriously. The fact is Ainge also grabbed Avery Bradley (lockdown defender) in the middle of the first round. Hes had a great draft record better than your boy Pat Riley had with the Heat overall. Since he drafted Wade who else has exactly panned out?

[D.o.s.]

I'm sure that Danny's course of action has ownership's blessing.

Danny has made some mistakes, but he also delivered us a championship and five years of high-level basketball out of nowhere.  That earns a lot of good will.

Don’t enjoy still with glory of 2007-08. Now is 2013. Look at MIAMI HEAT the way of building the team and keeping a great roster level very season. Did they trade Bosh, Wade or key palyers? DID MIAMI sign anonymous players fro China league? See how Pat Riley built the team. The catastrophic work done by DA started in 2010-11. Most important I see a dark future. Similar to Detroit Piston if you assume that KG and PP will go after Doc.

And how exactly did Pat Riley "build" the team after Bosh, Wade and and Lebron?

Let me guess, he signed a couple of good, older players in support roles. Hmmm, who does that remind me of?

Also, in case you missed the memo, Bosh and Wade are not 37 years old, and are definitely not on their last legs.

Why you faking not understanding at all? Riley offered contract to Miller, Ray, and Battier? DA picked up anonymous players form China...You see the difference. Plus.He never tried to trade Wade, Bosh, Haslem, and Chalmers...Constructive and not destructive...

It seems you're faking not understanding. Offering contracts to Miller, Ray, and Battier is exactly the same as offering contracts to Posey, Shaq, the other O'Neal, and even Sam Cassell. With the small difference that Pierce and Garnett weren't 35+ years old when those moves happened -- and now they are(and we did try the same approach by signing Terry and Lee last season; how do you like the way that worked out?)

If you think "building" around stars in his prime is the same as building around stars who are scraping the bottom of the barrel, you're sorely mistaken.

Cassell???You are living in 2007-2008 I guess. Now is 2013. So, face the reality.

After mentioning that you would want Chalmers over Rondo (I believe that was you, if not my apologies) I'm not taking anything you say seriously. The fact is Ainge also grabbed Avery Bradley (lockdown defender) in the middle of the first round. Hes had a great draft record better than your boy Pat Riley had with the Heat overall. Since he drafted Wade who else has exactly panned out?

Not trying to add fuel to the fire, but Haslem has been a great player/personality for the Heat.

Cole was a decent pick. As was Chalmers.

Eddie House was all right. So was Caron Butler.

[eugen]

I'm sure that Danny's course of action has ownership's blessing.

Danny has made some mistakes, but he also delivered us a championship and five years of high-level basketball out of nowhere.  That earns a lot of good will.

Don’t enjoy still with glory of 2007-08. Now is 2013. Look at MIAMI HEAT the way of building the team and keeping a great roster level very season. Did they trade Bosh, Wade or key palyers? DID MIAMI sign anonymous players fro China league? See how Pat Riley built the team. The catastrophic work done by DA started in 2010-11. Most important I see a dark future. Similar to Detroit Piston if you assume that KG and PP will go after Doc.

And how exactly did Pat Riley "build" the team after Bosh, Wade and and Lebron?

Let me guess, he signed a couple of good, older players in support roles. Hmmm, who does that remind me of?

Also, in case you missed the memo, Bosh and Wade are not 37 years old, and are definitely not on their last legs.

Why you faking not understanding at all? Riley offered contract to Miller, Ray, and Battier? DA picked up anonymous players form China...You see the difference. Plus.He never tried to trade Wade, Bosh, Haslem, and Chalmers...Constructive and not destructive...

It seems you're faking not understanding. Offering contracts to Miller, Ray, and Battier is exactly the same as offering contracts to Posey, Shaq, the other O'Neal, and even Sam Cassell. With the small difference that Pierce and Garnett weren't 35+ years old when those moves happened -- and now they are(and we did try the same approach by signing Terry and Lee last season; how do you like the way that worked out?)

If you think "building" around stars in his prime is the same as building around stars who are scraping the bottom of the barrel, you're sorely mistaken.

Cassell???You are living in 2007-2008 I guess. Now is 2013. So, face the reality.

After mentioning that you would want Chalmers over Rondo (I believe that was you, if not my apologies) I'm not taking anything you say seriously.

No. Is not true

[More Banners]

Why find a new GM?

Danny just got a pick for a coach, and probably saved owners $4-5M per year for the next 3 yrs.  That's found money right there.

He's doing his "due diligence" to find how the team can be improved.  He just does it more and better than everyone else.

[PhoSita]

  Meaning get rid of the guy who rebuilt a team into a title winner and bringing in a guy who never has (and probably never will)? Because he traded Perk for Green and let a washed-up Ray leave?

This.

Show me the GMs in this league with a better track record than Danny.  Then tell me how many of them are available.

[eugen]

  Meaning get rid of the guy who rebuilt a team into a title winner and bringing in a guy who never has (and probably never will)? Because he traded Perk for Green and let a washed-up Ray leave?

This.

Show me the GMs in this league with a better track record than Danny.  Then tell me how many of them are available.

Pat Riley.

[kozlodoev]

  Meaning get rid of the guy who rebuilt a team into a title winner and bringing in a guy who never has (and probably never will)? Because he traded Perk for Green and let a washed-up Ray leave?

This.

Show me the GMs in this league with a better track record than Danny.  Then tell me how many of them are available.

Pat Riley.

Conveniently ignoring the second part of the question, yet again?

[PhoSita]

I'm sure that Danny's course of action has ownership's blessing.

Danny has made some mistakes, but he also delivered us a championship and five years of high-level basketball out of nowhere.  That earns a lot of good will.

Don’t enjoy still with glory of 2007-08. Now is 2013. Look at MIAMI HEAT the way of building the team and keeping a great roster level very season. Did they trade Bosh, Wade or key palyers? DID MIAMI sign anonymous players fro China league? See how Pat Riley built the team. The catastrophic work done by DA started in 2010-11. Most important I see a dark future. Similar to Detroit Piston if you assume that KG and PP will go after Doc.

The faith expressed here in a guy whose drafting legend on this blog is a pure fabrication, and whose active player selections are about like his drafting - 50/50 - will provide the humor as this franchise slides into the abyss.

2004-#15 Al Jefferson, best player picked after was Josh Smith at #17. Also drafted an NBA 1st team defender Tony Allen, and Lebrons step dad

2005-#18 Gerlad Green, best players picked after were David Lee (#30)Monta Ellis(2nd rd). The whole league passed on them in the first round.

2006- Got Rondo, probably the best player in the draft(aldridge was also in this draft)

2007-traded Green for Ray Allen, drafted Big baby in 2nd round

2008-#31 pick JR Giddens, best players picked after Pekovic,Chalmers, DeAndre Jordan, Asik. He definitely had a bad draft here .

2009- Didn't have a 1st rd pick, took Lester Hudson with almost the last pick of the draft

2010-#19 Avery Bradley, best player picked after was Lance Stevenson at #40 who had character issues

2011-#25 Drafted JuJuan Johnson. Missed out on Jimmy Butler#30 and Chandler Parsons #38

2012- #20 Sully, probably no better player was selected after Sully

Besides 2008 and 2011, Danny has had very strong draft picking a top 5 PG in the league , a first team all defender(Allen), a 2nd team all defender(Bradley), a 20/10 guy(Jefferson). I give him a pass on the Gerald Green pick because every celtic fan wanted Green at that time and he had huge upside .

Yeah, I don't understand people who want to argue Danny is not a good drafter.  Very little evidence to support that assertion.