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Re: Should the ownership looking for new GM?
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2013, 09:54:35 AM »

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I'm sure that Danny's course of action has ownership's blessing.

Danny has made some mistakes, but he also delivered us a championship and five years of high-level basketball out of nowhere.  That earns a lot of good will.


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Re: Should the ownership looking for new GM?
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2013, 10:04:19 AM »

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From time when he traded Perk, left the team without e big man to help KG. This years almost swept by NYK. Some people like miserable status...poor you

If I remember correctly it was Doc 100% behind their "Take down Miami" Plan which was small ball and lotta folks 6ft8 and down not big men. They even said as much In Europe that this season (last season) was ALL about Miami. Doc berated and sat Darko who was bigger and badder than Perk was and woulda punished Lebron and Wade if they drove. Dude said he'd kill for the team.

Crazy stuff but he woulda given pause to anyone and his 4 fouls woulda been...HARD or whatever he was asked to do. He could pass the ball over everyones head while standing...did it pretty good.

Blaming Danny for the 1st round exit is ignoring everything that was said and by who'm in the pre-season.

Re: Should the ownership looking for new GM?
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2013, 10:06:35 AM »

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I'm sure that Danny's course of action has ownership's blessing.

Danny has made some mistakes, but he also delivered us a championship and five years of high-level basketball out of nowhere.  That earns a lot of good will.

All true. I believe ownership has expressed its undying love of Ainge recently, anyway.

However ... he also failed miserably in the summer of 2008, making a repeat almost impossible.

He added stiffs like Paddy O'Blount that contributed absolutely nothing to the Celtics. His drafting is something less than the legend of his myth on this blog.

And the players he added in the summer of 2012 played a key role in ownership's decision that they don't care about winning anymore, placing the franchise in this bizarre tanking predicament that rarely, if ever, works.

So Ainge hardly deserves a raise, either.

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Re: Should the ownership looking for new GM?
« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2013, 10:10:33 AM »

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From time when he traded Perk, left the team without e big man to help KG. This years almost swept by NYK. Some people like miserable status...poor you

If I remember correctly it was Doc 100% behind their "Take down Miami" Plan which was small ball and lotta folks 6ft8 and down not big men. They even said as much In Europe that this season (last season) was ALL about Miami. Doc berated and sat Darko who was bigger and badder than Perk was and woulda punished Lebron and Wade if they drove. Dude said he'd kill for the team.

Crazy stuff but he woulda given pause to anyone and his 4 fouls woulda been...HARD or whatever he was asked to do. He could pass the ball over everyones head while standing...did it pretty good.

Blaming Danny for the 1st round exit is ignoring everything that was said and by who'm in the pre-season.
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Re: Should the ownership looking for new GM?
« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2013, 10:11:20 AM »

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However ... he also failed miserably in the summer of 2008, making a repeat almost impossible.

Are you saying that Danny broke KG's knees personally? Because that is the only reason we didn't repeat.

Danny has made some mistakes, and I won't defend them, but there's no point in literally making stuff up to criticize him for.

Re: Should the ownership looking for new GM?
« Reply #20 on: June 24, 2013, 10:12:37 AM »

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I'm sure that Danny's course of action has ownership's blessing.

Danny has made some mistakes, but he also delivered us a championship and five years of high-level basketball out of nowhere.  That earns a lot of good will.

Don’t enjoy still with glory of 2007-08. Now is 2013. Look at MIAMI HEAT the way of building the team and keeping a great roster level very season. Did they trade Bosh, Wade or key palyers? DID MIAMI sign anonymous players fro China league? See how Pat Riley built the team. The catastrophic work done by DA started in 2010-11. Most important I see a dark future. Similar to Detroit Piston if you assume that KG and PP will go after Doc.

Re: Should the ownership looking for new GM?
« Reply #21 on: June 24, 2013, 10:16:44 AM »

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I'm sure that Danny's course of action has ownership's blessing.

Danny has made some mistakes, but he also delivered us a championship and five years of high-level basketball out of nowhere.  That earns a lot of good will.

Don’t enjoy still with glory of 2007-08. Now is 2013. Look at MIAMI HEAT the way of building the team and keeping a great roster level very season. Did they trade Bosh, Wade or key palyers? DID MIAMI sign anonymous players fro China league? See how Pat Riley built the team. The catastrophic work done by DA started in 2010-11. Most important I see a dark future. Similar to Detroit Piston if you assume that KG and PP will go after Doc.
And how exactly did Pat Riley "build" the team after Bosh, Wade and and Lebron?

Let me guess, he signed a couple of good, older players in support roles. Hmmm, who does that remind me of?

Also, in case you missed the memo, Bosh and Wade are not 37 years old, and are definitely not on their last legs.
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Re: Should the ownership looking for new GM?
« Reply #22 on: June 24, 2013, 10:22:32 AM »

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However ... he also failed miserably in the summer of 2008, making a repeat almost impossible.

Are you saying that Danny broke KG's knees personally? Because that is the only reason we didn't repeat.

Danny has made some mistakes, and I won't defend them, but there's no point in literally making stuff up to criticize him for.

Obviously, you have a short memory. There was no effort whatsoever to keep the championship team together, and a repeat was doomed before the season started.

And your memory is flawed. Garnett was not injured during the summer.

So you're the one who needs to cease fabricating facts to suit your thesis.
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Re: Should the ownership looking for new GM?
« Reply #23 on: June 24, 2013, 10:24:28 AM »

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I'm sure that Danny's course of action has ownership's blessing.

Danny has made some mistakes, but he also delivered us a championship and five years of high-level basketball out of nowhere.  That earns a lot of good will.

Don’t enjoy still with glory of 2007-08. Now is 2013. Look at MIAMI HEAT the way of building the team and keeping a great roster level very season. Did they trade Bosh, Wade or key palyers? DID MIAMI sign anonymous players fro China league? See how Pat Riley built the team. The catastrophic work done by DA started in 2010-11. Most important I see a dark future. Similar to Detroit Piston if you assume that KG and PP will go after Doc.

The faith expressed here in a guy whose drafting legend on this blog is a pure fabrication, and whose active player selections are about like his drafting - 50/50 - will provide the humor as this franchise slides into the abyss.
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Re: Should the ownership looking for new GM?
« Reply #24 on: June 24, 2013, 10:37:26 AM »

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From time when he traded Perk, left the team without e big man to help KG. This years almost swept by NYK. Some people like miserable status...poor you

If I remember correctly it was Doc 100% behind their "Take down Miami" Plan which was small ball and lotta folks 6ft8 and down not big men. They even said as much In Europe that this season (last season) was ALL about Miami. Doc berated and sat Darko who was bigger and badder than Perk was and woulda punished Lebron and Wade if they drove. Dude said he'd kill for the team.

Crazy stuff but he woulda given pause to anyone and his 4 fouls woulda been...HARD or whatever he was asked to do. He could pass the ball over everyones head while standing...did it pretty good.

Blaming Danny for the 1st round exit is ignoring everything that was said and by who'm in the pre-season.
This is hilarious.

Really?
In what way?
Darko was/is nuts which isn't bad if you need an enforcer. He headbutted Perk who proceeded to flop.
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You are easily amused.

You don't think Darko would have clotheslined lebron/wade in the neck if asked...Doc never would but you ...you should watch vids of him in Europe. Tyson threatened to Eat Lennox's kids..Darko was gonna do that and more to the refs and opposing team players. Dude is a bit off. You think he wouldn't have helped defend the paint? You think Perk was better because? It's hilarious because of reasons I don't get?
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Re: Should the ownership looking for new GM?
« Reply #25 on: June 24, 2013, 10:43:19 AM »

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From time when he traded Perk, left the team without e big man to help KG. This years almost swept by NYK. Some people like miserable status...poor you

If I remember correctly it was Doc 100% behind their "Take down Miami" Plan which was small ball and lotta folks 6ft8 and down not big men. They even said as much In Europe that this season (last season) was ALL about Miami. Doc berated and sat Darko who was bigger and badder than Perk was and woulda punished Lebron and Wade if they drove. Dude said he'd kill for the team.

Crazy stuff but he woulda given pause to anyone and his 4 fouls woulda been...HARD or whatever he was asked to do. He could pass the ball over everyones head while standing...did it pretty good.

Blaming Danny for the 1st round exit is ignoring everything that was said and by who'm in the pre-season.
This is hilarious.

Really?
In what way?
Darko was/is nuts which isn't bad if you need an enforcer. He headbutted Perk who proceeded to flop.

You are easily amused.
In multiple ways.

First, I don't recall Doc "berating" Darko. As a matter of fact, I don't really recall Doc ever berating anyone.

Second, he didn't "sit" Darko -- who was never supposed to be starting anyhow. Because, sadly, the guy isn't going nearly as hard in games as he is in postgame press conferences.

Third, if the departure of a player who didn't have the mental makeup to accept sitting on the bench for a bit(and this is a situation can really turn around quickly) is what makes or breaks your team, then you have bigger problems than said departure.
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Re: Should the ownership looking for new GM?
« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2013, 10:45:10 AM »

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I'm sure that Danny's course of action has ownership's blessing.

Danny has made some mistakes, but he also delivered us a championship and five years of high-level basketball out of nowhere.  That earns a lot of good will.

Don’t enjoy still with glory of 2007-08. Now is 2013. Look at MIAMI HEAT the way of building the team and keeping a great roster level very season. Did they trade Bosh, Wade or key palyers? DID MIAMI sign anonymous players fro China league? See how Pat Riley built the team. The catastrophic work done by DA started in 2010-11. Most important I see a dark future. Similar to Detroit Piston if you assume that KG and PP will go after Doc.
And how exactly did Pat Riley "build" the team after Bosh, Wade and and Lebron?

Let me guess, he signed a couple of good, older players in support roles. Hmmm, who does that remind me of?

Also, in case you missed the memo, Bosh and Wade are not 37 years old, and are definitely not on their last legs.

Why you faking not understanding at all? Riley offered contract to Miller, Ray, and Battier? DA picked up anonymous players form China...You see the difference. Plus.He never tried to trade Wade, Bosh, Haslem, and Chalmers...Constructive and not destructive...

Re: Should the ownership looking for new GM?
« Reply #27 on: June 24, 2013, 10:52:07 AM »

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I'm sure that Danny's course of action has ownership's blessing.

Danny has made some mistakes, but he also delivered us a championship and five years of high-level basketball out of nowhere.  That earns a lot of good will.

Don’t enjoy still with glory of 2007-08. Now is 2013. Look at MIAMI HEAT the way of building the team and keeping a great roster level very season. Did they trade Bosh, Wade or key palyers? DID MIAMI sign anonymous players fro China league? See how Pat Riley built the team. The catastrophic work done by DA started in 2010-11. Most important I see a dark future. Similar to Detroit Piston if you assume that KG and PP will go after Doc.
And how exactly did Pat Riley "build" the team after Bosh, Wade and and Lebron?

Let me guess, he signed a couple of good, older players in support roles. Hmmm, who does that remind me of?

Also, in case you missed the memo, Bosh and Wade are not 37 years old, and are definitely not on their last legs.

Why you faking not understanding at all? Riley offered contract to Miller, Ray, and Battier? DA picked up anonymous players form China...You see the difference. Plus.He never tried to trade Wade, Bosh, Haslem, and Chalmers...Constructive and not destructive...
It seems you're faking not understanding. Offering contracts to Miller, Ray, and Battier is exactly the same as offering contracts to Posey, Shaq, the other O'Neal, and even Sam Cassell. With the small difference that Pierce and Garnett weren't 35+ years old when those moves happened -- and now they are(and we did try the same approach by signing Terry and Lee last season; how do you like the way that worked out?)

If you think "building" around stars in his prime is the same as building around stars who are scraping the bottom of the barrel, you're sorely mistaken.
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Re: Should the ownership looking for new GM?
« Reply #28 on: June 24, 2013, 10:54:14 AM »

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Yeah, he was handed a championship. Then, he threw one away. He reminds me of a trust fund baby that was handed him everything in life and does just well enough to maintain most of it.

He also openly dangled everyone at every trade deadline. That, along with the Perkins trade, ruined the culture here. Our window ended with that trade, not last year.

Oh well, maybe MarShon Brooks can pick up some of the scoring deficiencies next year once Pierce is gone. Oh wait, we traded him for the first ever female draftee, JaJuanna Johnson.
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Re: Should the ownership looking for new GM?
« Reply #29 on: June 24, 2013, 10:55:18 AM »

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Nah, just a new coach.