Honestly unless we can get two scoring threats, we're better off tanking

[Celtics4ever]

Our scoring has been bad, I think we need a good SG.  AB does not cut it in the scoring department or the PG department.  He made defensive, his value is not going to get any better.

[bfrombleacher]

Everybody keeps ignoring the fact that the instant Green was made a starter he became the most consistent scorer on this team.

He averaged 20+ PPG over about 25 starts across the regular season and the playoffs, and he had very few off games during that stretch.

In fact Green is a more deadly scorer than Josh Smith right now, and probably better than Millsap as well.  The only guy in that group who is as good a scorer as Green is Al Jefferson - I'd love to see the Inside/Outside combo of Green/Jefferson with Rondo running the point, but not sure of our chances.

We already have one scoring threat, we just need to add a second and we are sweet in that department.  With Milwalkee apparently showing interest in Paul Pierce, bringing back Monta Ellis (who reportedly is testing the free agent market) would serve us nicely.

A 1-2 punch of Ellis and Green could be deadly if Green continues at his current rate.  Only downside is that Ellis looks as if he might be on the decline, and he'd probably want a long term contract.

I'm very optimistic most of the time but I have my reservations about JG. He seems to have thrived in a very specific role as option 1.b. on a team that did not have much to lose - no pressure, just go.

However, there's also his surgery. He's not supposed to be 100% yet until some time next season.

Along with a slew of behind the scenes, who knows which Green we'll see next season. I don't think and don't hope we'll see timid Green.

But whether we'll see a slightly worse version, the same one or even a better version I cannot say and I don't think anyone will bet their life on it.

I don't think an even better Green is as unlikely as some insist, though. Ainge has done a good job putting all that talent in a fairly nurturing environment.



As for Ellis, I'd rather go for Tyreke Evans. The backcourt would be small as heck with Ellis. With Evans we'd have a very nice compliment to AB who could also work with Rondo.

But I think a big like Al Jeff or Milsap or even J-Smoove (at a lower price than he's asking) should be more of a priority.

[Surferdad]

Watching Danny's moves over the years, he tries for the big fish but nibbles around the edges if nothing realistic pops up (JO, JET, Rasheed).

This off-season he HAS TO go for a big fish like Josh Smith or I don't see any chance of making a run with this group.  I really don't think Al Jefferson is the answer, yet he may be the most obtainable of the group.

Blow it up, get a 2014 1st rounder, move on with a core of Rondo, Sully, Green. Everyone else is expendable.

[tyrone biggums]

Watching Danny's moves over the years, he tries for the big fish but nibbles around the edges if nothing realistic pops up (JO, JET, Rasheed).

This off-season he HAS TO go for a big fish like Josh Smith or I don't see any chance of making a run with this group.  I really don't think Al Jefferson is the answer, yet he may be the most obtainable of the group.

Blow it up, get a 2014 1st rounder, move on with a core of Rondo, Sully, Green. Everyone else is expendable.

But even if we blow it up with the guys you just mentioned is that any worse than what the Bucks already have? Or the Raps? Wizards? That's what the blow it up crowd fails to understand is that we can't get the #1 or even a top five pick realistically barring of course injuries etc...

[Surferdad]

Watching Danny's moves over the years, he tries for the big fish but nibbles around the edges if nothing realistic pops up (JO, JET, Rasheed).

This off-season he HAS TO go for a big fish like Josh Smith or I don't see any chance of making a run with this group.  I really don't think Al Jefferson is the answer, yet he may be the most obtainable of the group.

Blow it up, get a 2014 1st rounder, move on with a core of Rondo, Sully, Green. Everyone else is expendable.

But even if we blow it up with the guys you just mentioned is that any worse than what the Bucks already have? Or the Raps? Wizards? That's what the blow it up crowd fails to understand is that we can't get the #1 or even a top five pick realistically barring of course injuries etc...

When I said blow it up, I didn't mean tanking. I meant MOVE ON. The 2014 1st rounder (a high one) would have to be obtained in a trade. It may well require Pierce's expiring contract, so be it.

[Who]

If breaking up the Rondo + Bradley backcourt, I think Nick Young would good value as an offensively orientated role player at SG. He could give the team a regular 16-18ppg.

He has the ability to move without the ball, to come off of screens and look for catch and shoot opportunities. Those same plays Ray used to get. Nick Young does them really well. A strong spot up shooter. Very good in transition. A good one-on-one scorer off the dribble too. A well rounded scorer.

Someone who would be available at a lower contract figure.

Maybe even in a sign and trade (keep that mini-MLE for someone else) for Courtney Lee who would fit in very well in Philly in between Jrue Holiday (PG) and Evan Turner (SF).

His BBall IQ seems pretty low though.

That is why he will cost $5 million instead of $10+ million.

Because he has flaws. He has limitations. Like most role players do.

If you are going to have highly paid stars like Rondo and Garnett who are facilitators rather than go-to scorers, I think a score first role player rather than solely "three + defense" guys is a good move that can provide better balance offensively when top shot creators are unavailable to be added to the roster.

[Who]

We already have Jordan Crawford if you're looking for a Nick Young type player.

Jordan Crawford cannot defend his position. Nick Young can.

Jordan Crawford cannot start at the SG position in the NBA and be an effective player. Nick Young can. As can someone like Marcus Thornton.

[BballTim]

We already have Jordan Crawford if you're looking for a Nick Young type player.

Jordan Crawford cannot defend his position. Nick Young can.

Jordan Crawford cannot start at the SG position in the NBA and be an effective player. Nick Young can. As can someone like Marcus Thornton.

  Numbers-wise, Crawford as a starter (60+ games) is probably a little better than Young, but I can't really comment on their defensive play compared to each other.

[dreamgreen]

I agree 100% we need more scoring and a better offensive system.

this is what I envision as our team on July 1st

Rondo/JET
Bradley/Crawford
Green
Bass/Sullinger
Jordan/Melo

If that is the team, than one of: Smith, Big Al, Milsap should be a target.

I would also consider going after Reddick at SG.

*The most important part of that is what we would get back for PP. If PP could be used to get one of those bigs on the list, that makes life easier.

This team needs rebounding and shooting!

[lightspeed5]

barbosa

[LarBrd33]

It's a superstar's league.  Superstars win titles.  You might put together a mildly competitive 45 win team if everything drops right, but you aren't winning a title.

Our next hope at landing a Superstar is to tank and go after wiggins.  Our second best hope of landing a superstar is to tank, end up with a top 5 pick... and put together a really intriguing trade package for a "tradeable" fringe superstar...  Dunno who will be available... MAYBE Kevin Love (if you even want to call him a superstar).   

Beyond that, you're on the outside looking in for several years.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Im starting to warm up on the Nick Young idea.

I understand he has flaw but I think he could buy in into the hard nosed Celtics defensive mentality. He can drop buckets, I really dont see why not.

He's also relatively young (no pun) so he can fit in amy rebuilding projects as long as he's not tied up to a large contract. I think 4 million a year is fair enough, for a couple years. See what he has and decide from there.

With Nick Young on board, we have to move either Jet, Bradley or Lee. He needs PT to maximize his scoring abilities. Bradley could net something, we can move him.

[celticinorlando]

put me in the column of tanking. I have no desire of watching guys like nick young, terry, crawford and lee