Rondo F-Bombed Rivers

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Don't know about this story, but the guys at CSNNE said back when this Doc story first broke that getting away from coaching Rondo would definitely be part of Doc's motivation.  They said it as if they had inside info from reliable sources and there wasn't any doubt in their minds about that being a factor.

So coaching Chris Paul is going to be 1000 times better.  Right...

[CelticConcourse]

By the way if anyone's curious:

Boston newspapers reported that Rivers left Boston on Friday afternoon and returned to his off-season home in Orlando.

[Celtics18]

Here's a nice little article from Mr. Sheridan from over a year ago:

http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2012/02/13/rondo-silent-after-triple-double-vs-rose-less-bulls/

Can anyone say:  Axe to grind.

[scaryjerry]

And? Every player in the league I'm sure has f bombed a coach...rivers reaction is the embarassment...good luck with Chris the coach killer prima Donna Paul bud

[scaryjerry]

Don't know about this story, but the guys at CSNNE said back when this Doc story first broke that getting away from coaching Rondo would definitely be part of Doc's motivation.  They said it as if they had inside info from reliable sources and there wasn't any doubt in their minds about that being a factor.

So coaching Chris Paul is going to be 1000 times better.  Right...

Yeah good luck with that...grass ain't always greener on the other side, careful what you wish for, Chris paul is a petulant child who can't even get along with Blake Griffin

[Eja117]

A source close to the Celtics tells Chris Sheridan of SheridanHoops.com that Rondo droopped an F-bomb on Rivers in the locker room during a team meeting, and Rivers went after Rondo and tried to fight him before the fracas was broken up.

http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2013/06/22/rondo-f-bombed-rivers-two-almost-fought/

I wonder how close to the Celtics this source is? Providence area?

[PAOBoston]

OMG. So lemme get this straight. Rondo tells Rivers to go eff himself during a team meeting and people still take Rondo's side? I agree that Rivers probably could have handled it better but doesnt that say more about how uncoachable Rondo is? Get this guy out of here. He's a punk. And the funny part is people want to pair this guy up with Josh Smith who is an equally volatile punk. That's a recipe for disaster.

Trade Rondo. Draft someone like Schroeder. Start fresh. Rondo clearly isnt leading this team to anything.

  Rondo's already led the team to something. Start with all the way to game 7 of the ECF last year. Saying he won't lead the team anywhere is like saying he'll never be an all-star. Again, I'd like to know when the incident happened, some of the Rondo/Doc clashes have been reported well after they happened like they were recent events. And I think that people are looking at this in a vacuum, I doubt that dropping an f-bomb during a meeting is the worst thing that ever happens in the nba. This blog has had tons of posts in favor of trades for players that have gotten coaches fired. If you don't want players that have done worse than swear at a coach in a meeting you're going to be a perennial bottom feeder.

Wow. An ECF. Which they ultimately lost to the Heat. There was a point in time where this franchise used to measure success with championships. I guess people will accept getting to ECF's now as a success.

This isnt the first incident that's come out about Rondo's behavior with coaches/teammates. I think he's a punk. I dont think he's the best person to lead this team with KG/Pierce (seemingly) out the door. The point is he doesnt seem to have any respect for his coach. And Doc doesnt really want any part of him and I dont blame him. I dont buy the competetive BS. If coach tells you that you made a mistake, you dont tell them eff you to their face.

I dont think building a team around Rondo is the way to go. He's too volatile and he's not a 1st tier player (ala Lebron/Durant) to put up with it. I think making Rondo the focal point of the team is a mistake. That's my 2 cents.

[timobusa]

Nothing to see here, just Chris Sheridan trying to get some traffic on his website..

[fairweatherfan]

If we knew every cursing match, fight, and near-fight that happened in the NBA every season, it'd be a long, long list.  That stuff just happens in that kind of environment, and most of the time it's over almost as fast as it starts.

That said, a coach and a player should never be getting into anything physical.  If the story's true, Doc may have some trouble setting aside the player part of his personality when he's coaching.

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Here's a nice little article from Mr. Sheridan from over a year ago:

http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2012/02/13/rondo-silent-after-triple-double-vs-rose-less-bulls/

Can anyone say:  Axe to grind.

That article really came off as whiny.  I think the media has too much access to the players.  I saw a photo of Lebron's locker area prior to one of the finals games.  It was a zoo.  I know it is lebron, but sheesh give the players some space and let them prepare for the game.

If I was an NBA player, I would feel the media is really overstepping their boundaries.  I am sure Stern allows this to happen and the media blitz only increases the owners profits, but whatever.  The players are people.  Sheridan's griping about Rondo not speaking says a lot about the media's overgrown ego and overblown importance regarding their role in the news.  The world doesn't hang on your latest tweets and stories Sheridan.

[sed522002]

I'll think twice about this supposed "fight" when Woj or Jackie reports it. He just trying to get traffic on hot subject right now that's been created by this circus.

And if the story is remotely true..who cares about a F-bomb players have probably said and done worse behind the scenes. I remember Wade having to be held back last playoffs from fighting Spo..guess what, they're doing just fine..lol.

[EJPLAYA]

I think this is also a bit of a generational thing. I would bet most of the posters on here that are saying it isn't a big deal are younger. There is a clear lack of respect for authority with the upcoming generations in every facet of life. (man I sounded like an old geezer there!) Just look at our schools. NEVER would you have students act the way that they do to teachers 25-30 years ago. We have to face the fact that as a country we no longer require kids to respect authority and this type of thing is the result. So here you have this kid who has been a superstar since he was in grade school being told he is the greatest thing ever and allowed to act and say whatever he wants, being a punk in the locker room. Surprise Surprise!

I think that Doc should have clearly reacted differently and suspended him, but it appears we aren't really worrying about Doc any more. What matters is what it says about  Rondo's character. Could you ever imagine Tim Duncan doing this to a coach? A leader of a team doesn't act that way to his coach and undermine his authority. This move is based on selfish "don't disrespect me" attitude. He can do it in private if he wants, but this shows you Rondo will never be a leader. His game is flawed enough to think you could possibly build a championship team around him, but this clinches it for me. Send him packing I've had enough of our "sometimes effort" PG.

[Tgro]

The last time Rondo was supposed to play, he found out that he had blew his knee out and after the game this happened...



Hardly seems like they hate each other. In fact, it looks like they have a lot of love for each other.

Crap happens in life. Heck, a time or two I've been known to go off on friends or family members and we have a dust up and then not long afterwards, we go back to being the chums we once were. Or vice versa. People can be intense. If this actually happened, I'm sure it's in the past now. Move on. Story over.

I swear, if Doc goes, I think lots of people will be happy and we start over and move on and life goes on.

But if Doc stays, KG and PP stay, Rondo gets healthy, we all regroup and refocus. I can see us 2 months into the season and this is LONG in the past and the focus is back on the team and trying to win. I still think all of this is survivable. Might even be the best thing to have happened because everyone went through a lot this off-season and they get to come back and focus on basketball and leave all this crap behind. At least that is my hope.

However this turns out, I think we'll be okay. Once the season starts, this will be behind us and we'll have other things to complain about. I still believe in Rondo and I still believe in KG and I still believe in PP and I still believe in Doc. And if none of them return....

Heartfelt thanks for the memories!

[LatterDayCelticsfan]

You mean its news that Rondo and Rivers fight?

[saltlover]

Eh, I don't care about this at all.

Firstly, I doubt this happened this year.  It certainly didn't happen since Rondo injured himself, and it's unlikely it happened in the immediate time before, when the Celtics were on that losing streak, since that's when these type of stories leak out.  Nor did it leak when the Celtics went on a winning streak after Rondo got injured, and the prevailing meme was the Celtics are better without Rondo.  It's likely a couple years old if it happened at all.  My guess would be the 2010-2011 season, since the Celtics made a real push to trade Rondo the following off-season.

Secondly, this clearly didn't come from the Celtics.  It's just the Clippers, or some other team, trying to have fun and stir the waters.

Thirdly, it's no secret that Rondo doesn't always control his emotions successfully.  But it's in competitive environments when his adrenaline is flowing.  It's that same adrenaline rush that let's him play on a torn ACL, or win a game with one arm, or defend LeBron from half-court, or turn superhuman in the playoffs.  So once every couple of months he does something stupid.  He's a smart dude, and I bet he realizes it afterwards, unlike DeMarcus Cousins.

Finally, he may get heated on the court or in the locker room, but he's never in a bit of trouble off the court.  You don't see him partying after a loss, and if you did, he'd have a Shirley Temple in his hand.  You certainly don't hear about him getting into bar fights, gun fights, or DUI.  Instead you hear about him going to Paris, or interning at a fashion magazine, or playing Connect 4.  Occasionally he's petulant, and maybe a know-it-all, but he's a great basketball player who's incredibly competitive on a team-friendly contract who you don't have to worry about at 2am on a Saturday night.  He's not perfect, but as we see with Aaron Hernandez, you could do a lot worse.