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Offline thirstyboots18

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If I were the Clippers office I'd be spreading crap like this every day to force the Celtics hand. It's the second kind of message the Clips have sent.
I'm assuming Danny eventually budges for just Jordan and 2 picks+Willie Green.
Might as well take it coz KG ain't playing without Pierce and Doc.
Poker at it's finest.

Well the Celtics have all the leverage.

They aren't going to take a package they dont  want amd jist let kg doc and paul leave.

If they don't get what they want them let doc broadcast and let kg retire or come off the books.
Perhaps the Clips have already been spreading it?  And the loyal Celtics fans have already been buying it?  Until it happens, to me, none of it has happened.  What better way to undermine the organization...than through the press...Even if it were true, so what?  What has Doc, Danny, PP, KG, or Wyc said so far?  I have been scouring the press and the media for actual quotes...so far Doc has made the mistake of saying he would rather not say...
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Clearly I'm in the minority here but I think we are making assumptions about why Doc is looking at the Clippers job. It could be something as simple as working in the same place for 9 years. Why wouldn't you want a change of scenery? The Boston media makes 9 years of employment look like 30. Before the Big 3 came about Doc was the victim of a lot of hatchet job articles and the only fair shake he got was from McMullen and Ryan. Why isn't Theo looked upon as a quitter in Boston? He was just tired of the media and ownership. I really think people should use their heads when trying to assess this instead of taking the easy way. The easy way being..."Doc is a quiitah, we should fire him anyways" "let him go to TNT" or hire a scrub to tank.

TP.

You may not be in the minority. I for one have been staying away from these threads precisely because I think they're full of completely unfounded accusations based on nothing of substance.

I think there are probably a lot of people like you, who are perfectly willing to sit tight and see how this all plays out, and then make a judgment.

Unfortunately, the board has been taken over right now by a small but vocal group who are bashing everyone and everything in sight. I think it's pretty immature, to be honest.

Anyway, just thought I'd weigh in on this, because I think we need more people like you giving us the voice of reason.

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Clearly I'm in the minority here but I think we are making assumptions about why Doc is looking at the Clippers job. It could be something as simple as working in the same place for 9 years. Why wouldn't you want a change of scenery? The Boston media makes 9 years of employment look like 30. Before the Big 3 came about Doc was the victim of a lot of hatchet job articles and the only fair shake he got was from McMullen and Ryan. Why isn't Theo looked upon as a quitter in Boston? He was just tired of the media and ownership. I really think people should use their heads when trying to assess this instead of taking the easy way. The easy way being..."Doc is a quiitah, we should fire him anyways" "let him go to TNT" or hire a scrub to tank.

TP.

You may not be in the minority. I for one have been staying away from these threads precisely because I think they're full of completely unfounded accusations based on nothing of substance.

I think there are probably a lot of people like you, who are perfectly willing to sit tight and see how this all plays out, and then make a judgment.

Unfortunately, the board has been taken over right now by a small but vocal group who are bashing everyone and everything in sight. I think it's pretty immature, to be honest.

Anyway, just thought I'd weigh in on this, because I think we need more people like you giving us the voice of reason.

Thank you. It's good to see that not everyone has started to rage based on these "reports". We can sit here and bash Broussard for his "credible sources" but at the same time people still bite! Celtics "fans" are ready to dump Doc (and these same "fans" have wanted to for years and needed an excuse" over the same BS we dump on Broussard for. I'm sure that there is some truth to both sides but a lot of this is spin to sell more newspapers. Everyone uses spin for their own agenda and for a small pocket of fans, the spin to get rid of Doc no matter what and start tanking is at its Apex. Be careful what you wish for is all I have to say on this.

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Uhm, had Doc said even once that he doesn't want to coach in Boston? No, but we are assuming he has, which is stupid.

Let's take a look at the things we assume but don't actually know if true or not:
  • Doc doesn't want to rebuild.
  • Doc doesn't want to be in Boston.
  • Doc wants to join the Clippers.
  • Doc is trying to give up on his team.
  • Doc is trying to give up on his players.

You guys are simply assuming way too many things. How do you know Danny isn't the one who was trying to force a trade? How do you know that Danny isn't just trying to trade KG and has to include Doc in it?

The entire fan base is criticizing Doc for something that is just a rumor (Him giving up)

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I have No issue with Doc going, as long as the Celtics get some fair compensation in return that's fine.  If we can get Jordan, Bledsoe and a first rounder while also convincing them to absorb either Lee's or Terry's contract (apparently this is what DA is asking for) then what we aee getting back is very fair compensation for what we are giving up.

The Celtics get to move on and look to the future while Pierce, KG and Doc get a chance to make another run together.  Everybody wins.  The Clippers will immediately become my second favorite team.

The way I see it Doc as a first priority wants to make another run with the big three in Boston, by I'm sure he has insider information and probably knows that DA intends to buy out Pierce.  If Pierce goes then im sure KG wants to be with him, and Doc probably can't stomach the thought of coaching again those two guys after all they have been through.

DA apparently declined the Clippers permission to speak to Doc, but he probably realises that this is the only shot the guys have to give it one more run, and im sure DA wants to dl the right thing by those guys too.  I imagine he's probably told them that he's happy to work out a deal that gets them there together, as long as he gets fair value in return. 

Again, works out for everybody.

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@BaxterHolmes: Source adds, "That 10% has to go down every day," meaning it's increasingly unlikely Doc returns to coach the Celtics.

Again another worthless source, next?

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I admit I know nothing about the guy but since when is a reporters reporting a news worthless now?

Because a reporter will do anything to make sure they milk the cow.

Every reporter is swarming to get the news out even if it isn't true, or just plain BS/rumors.

That's the whole focal point of a journalist/reporter nowadays. Try to get the hot seat by leaking out inaccurate information which could be true, but isn't valid in terms of substance. Yet.

It could be true, and it could not be. I don't trust half of the sources unless Woj says it.

There isn't that many reporters who are saying factual things. Just looking to get recognition, but then again that applies to many jobs.

Either way Doc hasn't said anything that he wants to leave Celtics. I mean it is messed up that this is even on going especially with Doc not being able to outright state his decision.

But if he stays? Great.

If not. I'm down for a change of scenery, even if it means we get VDN. It's not like contention is going to happen any time soon, just looking to support my team and bleed green.
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I admit I know nothing about the guy but since when is a reporters reporting a news worthless now?

But who is Baxter Holmes?
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I admit I know nothing about the guy but since when is a reporters reporting a news worthless now?

It's not news.  It's an unknown reporter's made up numbers.

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Clearly I'm in the minority here but I think we are making assumptions about why Doc is looking at the Clippers job. It could be something as simple as working in the same place for 9 years. Why wouldn't you want a change of scenery? The Boston media makes 9 years of employment look like 30. Before the Big 3 came about Doc was the victim of a lot of hatchet job articles and the only fair shake he got was from McMullen and Ryan. Why isn't Theo looked upon as a quitter in Boston? He was just tired of the media and ownership. I really think people should use their heads when trying to assess this instead of taking the easy way. The easy way being..."Doc is a quiitah, we should fire him anyways" "let him go to TNT" or hire a scrub to tank.
Why do people assume that Doc is "looking at the Clippers job"?

Ainge wants a package from the Clippers. The Clippers want him to let go of Doc, and Doc may be open to coaching in LA. I don't think this has much to do with Doc at all.
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according to SAS...sounds like danny wants blake griffin or jordan/bledsoe package..nothing less than that for kg/rivers & possibly pierce
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