Wouldn't Nerlens Noel fit well with Rondo?

[jaketwice]

I think it could be a beautiful thing. Two defensive minded players, both running the floor. Rondo could gamble a little more, if someone like Noel were there to contest. It'd be a highlight real all the time.

Doesn't a Green/Rondo/Noel core sound appealing? I don't know how you'd do it, and keep Bass and Sullinger. ...but if you could somehow manage that, and had Bradley at the 2, you'd have a pretty bad-ass defensive team, right?

You'd be about a wing away from having a contender?

[PhoSita]

Sure, but so would have Anthony Davis or Blake Griffin.

I'm not sure I see your point.

[Smartacus]

Sure, but so would have Anthony Davis or Blake Griffin.

I'm not sure I see your point.

Anthony Davis is the number one player I'd want developing with Rondo but we have no chance of attaining him. We don't have any assets that could pry him away from the Pelicans.

Blake would be transcendent, possibly even better with Rondo than with CP3 but he doesnt really have the Celtics mindset. He's a much better fit out west where flash seems to be put at a higher premium. Plus Sterling probably views him as a cash cow since he's great on camera.

The Cavs are not entirely sure Noel would fit with Kyrie (and possibly lebron). He's coming off an ACL just like Rondo which Imo makes us better equipped to support the player. He doesn't project to be the type of player where if you let him go he'll burn you for years to come and we have Cleveland legend Jared Sullinger as a trade chip. I also think Bass wouldbe just what Kyrie needs.

I agree with the OP I hope Danny is exploring Noel as an option. For all you conspiracy nuts out there like me Noel would look good (and sell well) in green.

[CFAN38]

I think it could be a beautiful thing. Two defensive minded players, both running the floor. Rondo could gamble a little more, if someone like Noel were there to contest. It'd be a highlight real all the time.

Doesn't a Green/Rondo/Noel core sound appealing? I don't know how you'd do it, and keep Bass and Sullinger. ...but if you could somehow manage that, and had Bradley at the 2, you'd have a pretty bad-ass defensive team, right?

You'd be about a wing away from having a contender?

Noel isn't going to be a celtic but his type of player is what the Cs need going into the post KG era. I think this is why DA took a shot with Melo. The toughest position to fill in the NBA is defensive anchor. There are only a few centers/big PFs in the league who can anchor a defense. I don't think its a coincidence that the leagues elite teams have all of them. Miami is the exception to this trend.

Last 8 teams standing this year

East
Miami - none
Indy  - Hibbert
Bulls - Noah
Knicks- Chandler

West
Spurs  - Duncan
Memphis - Gasol
OKC     - Perk + Ibaka
Warriors- Bogut

This is why we way see the Cs take a shot on Adams, Gobert,or Nogueria

[LarBrd33]

I think it could be a beautiful thing. Two defensive minded players, both running the floor. Rondo could gamble a little more, if someone like Noel were there to contest. It'd be a highlight real all the time.

Doesn't a Green/Rondo/Noel core sound appealing?

Sure, but who are you getting back from the Cavs if you're sending Rondo and Green there to play with #1 pick Nerlens Noel?

Is this your suggestion? 

Cleveland gets:  Rondo and Green
Boston gets:  Varejao and Dion Waiters

?  That's silly.

#1 - I don't think it works financially.  Varejao and Waiters make 13 mil total.  Green + Rondo make 21 mil.  Can the Cavs swallow the extra salary?
#2 - Why would the Cavs trade for Rondo when they already have Kyrie Irving?  Irving is better and healthier.

As much as it would be nice to give the Cavs a core of Rondo, Irving, Green, Thompson and Noel... It doesn't make much sense for the Cavs to move Irving to SG.

[Evantime34]

Honestly if we could go into the future with a core of Rondo, Bradley, Green, Sullinger and Noel I would be very happy.

I think next year we might struggle to make the playoffs but a year after that with a decent draft pick we could end up a contender again.

[CelticConcourse]

Irving is better and healthier.

Was skimming the page and stopped.

What??!?!?

Rondo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Irving

No contest, Rondo by a million.

[lightspeed5]

Agreed with everyone on Anthony Davis. That would be a tremendous duo.

[Smartacus]

I think it could be a beautiful thing. Two defensive minded players, both running the floor. Rondo could gamble a little more, if someone like Noel were there to contest. It'd be a highlight real all the time.

Doesn't a Green/Rondo/Noel core sound appealing?

Sure, but who are you getting back from the Cavs if you're sending Rondo and Green there to play with #1 pick Nerlens Noel?

Is this your suggestion? 

Cleveland gets:  Rondo and Green
Boston gets:  Varejao and Dion Waiters

?  That's silly.

#1 - I don't think it works financially.  Varejao and Waiters make 13 mil total.  Green + Rondo make 21 mil.  Can the Cavs swallow the extra salary?
#2 - Why would the Cavs trade for Rondo when they already have Kyrie Irving?  Irving is better and healthier.

As much as it would be nice to give the Cavs a core of Rondo, Irving, Green, Thompson and Noel... It doesn't make much sense for the Cavs to move Irving to SG.

I don't really think that's what he's suggesting. Of course as you know not all number 1 picks are created equal. This number 1 pick is closer to what Kenyon Martin was than Lebron James or even Anthony Davis.

I believe he's suggesting that we could attain him with our other assets (Sulley Bass Melo #16) I'd even think Terry or Lee would be an assest for Irving. We then run with a core of Rondo, Green, Noel, Bradley, next years First(McGary?Isiah Austin?). Tough team to score on and could be a few savy trades away from contention.

[Celtics4ever]

Noel is a stick at this point.   He is going to be little more than a leaf in the wind at 206 lbs.   

Cleveland wants a SF why not send Green for filler and the number 2?

[Celtics18]

I think it could be a beautiful thing. Two defensive minded players, both running the floor. Rondo could gamble a little more, if someone like Noel were there to contest. It'd be a highlight real all the time.

Doesn't a Green/Rondo/Noel core sound appealing?

Sure, but who are you getting back from the Cavs if you're sending Rondo and Green there to play with #1 pick Nerlens Noel?

Is this your suggestion? 

Cleveland gets:  Rondo and Green
Boston gets:  Varejao and Dion Waiters

?  That's silly.

#1 - I don't think it works financially.  Varejao and Waiters make 13 mil total.  Green + Rondo make 21 mil.  Can the Cavs swallow the extra salary?
#2 - Why would the Cavs trade for Rondo when they already have Kyrie Irving?  Irving is better and healthier.

As much as it would be nice to give the Cavs a core of Rondo, Irving, Green, Thompson and Noel... It doesn't make much sense for the Cavs to move Irving to SG.

Very cute. 

[mr. dee]

Noel is a stick at this point.   He is going to be little more than a leaf in the wind at 206 lbs.   

Cleveland wants a SF why not send Green for filler and the number 2?

I think the OP is suggesting that Noel/Green/Rondo should play together. Trading him would defeat the purpose of this thread. This will be tricky though. I don't know how the hell Danny will pull this one.

Maybe Pierce for Noel but the salaries don't match. We might as well take fillers for the package.

[D.o.s.]

Irving is better and healthier.

Was skimming the page and stopped.

What??!?!?

Rondo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Irving

No contest, Rondo by a million.

Agreed. Irving has a higher ceiling, probably, but he hasn't had a healthy season since before his one-and-done at Duke.

[jaketwice]

I think it could be a beautiful thing. Two defensive minded players, both running the floor. Rondo could gamble a little more, if someone like Noel were there to contest. It'd be a highlight real all the time.

Doesn't a Green/Rondo/Noel core sound appealing?

Sure, but who are you getting back from the Cavs if you're sending Rondo and Green there to play with #1 pick Nerlens Noel?

Is this your suggestion? 

Cleveland gets:  Rondo and Green
Boston gets:  Varejao and Dion Waiters

?  That's silly.

#1 - I don't think it works financially.  Varejao and Waiters make 13 mil total.  Green + Rondo make 21 mil.  Can the Cavs swallow the extra salary?
#2 - Why would the Cavs trade for Rondo when they already have Kyrie Irving?  Irving is better and healthier.

As much as it would be nice to give the Cavs a core of Rondo, Irving, Green, Thompson and Noel... It doesn't make much sense for the Cavs to move Irving to SG.

I don't really think that's what he's suggesting. Of course as you know not all number 1 picks are created equal. This number 1 pick is closer to what Kenyon Martin was than Lebron James or even Anthony Davis.

I believe he's suggesting that we could attain him with our other assets (Sulley Bass Melo #16) I'd even think Terry or Lee would be an assest for Irving. We then run with a core of Rondo, Green, Noel, Bradley, next years First(McGary?Isiah Austin?). Tough team to score on and could be a few savy trades away from contention.

That's right. I think a Green/Rondo/Noel/Bradley core could be amazing. However, I don't necessarily think that's attainable. I also agree that, at this point, Noel is a stick, and that his ceiling is closer to Kenyon Martin than it is to KG. However, Martin helped lead the Nets to the finals - twice. It would be a huge gamble.

Moreover, that core group (Noel/Rondo/Green/Bradley) would REALLY struggle to score in the half court. Without Pierce as a bail-out option (and maybe he could stay in that case) there's just no one who can create his own shot amongst those four guys - except maybe Green - but not consistently.

But, I love the idea of a defensive anchor like Noel. I love his athleticism and length. And I love what he could do with Rondo, as his PG. Irving might be an elite level scoring point guard, but the best TRUE point guard in the NBA is Rondo. ...I'm not saying that's necessarily a great thing. I think these days, some scoring is required of an NBA point guard - but nobody sees the floor better than Rondo.

A guy like Noel, with that kind of crazy athleticism and reach would just be so much fun to watch play with Rondo. ...and Bradley is no slouch. Rondo and Bradley - are neck and neck with Golden State for the fastest back-court in the NBA.

You'd have four horses out there, gambling for steals, and running the break, over and over and over. It has been so long since we've had a team like that. And, win or lose, it would be awesomely fun to watch.

[mqtcelticsfan]

I think the Cavs would totally give us Noel for Fab Melo and Jason Terry...

Oh wait, no I don't. They would probably balk at trading #1 for Rondo, let alone our spare change.