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Re: Roy Hibbert apologizes for post-game gay slur
« Reply #105 on: June 02, 2013, 10:31:12 PM »

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I have a hypothetical for everyone

-We've probably all seen funny pictures about Bosh (ie Heat locker room celebration pic with champagne)or heard jokes about Bosh being gay.

What if he said he was offended by the jokes and being called gay. Does he have a right to be offended or is that offensive to gays? Just a thought provoker.

I haven't seen/heard those jokes.  But he's allowed to be offended by people making fun of his sexuality regardless if they are correct that he is gay or incorrect that he's not.

Re: Roy Hibbert apologizes for post-game gay slur
« Reply #106 on: June 02, 2013, 10:35:43 PM »

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I have a hypothetical for everyone

-We've probably all seen funny pictures about Bosh (ie Heat locker room celebration pic with champagne)or heard jokes about Bosh being gay.

What if he said he was offended by the jokes and being called gay. Does he have a right to be offended or is that offensive to gays? Just a thought provoker.

I haven't seen/heard those jokes.  But he's allowed to be offended by people making fun of his sexuality regardless if they are correct that he is gay or incorrect that he's not.

Daheck? Since when was there somethin' called "tha right to be offended"?

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Re: Roy Hibbert apologizes for post-game gay slur
« Reply #107 on: June 02, 2013, 10:51:22 PM »

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I have a hypothetical for everyone

-We've probably all seen funny pictures about Bosh (ie Heat locker room celebration pic with champagne)or heard jokes about Bosh being gay.

What if he said he was offended by the jokes and being called gay. Does he have a right to be offended or is that offensive to gays? Just a thought provoker.

I haven't seen/heard those jokes.  But he's allowed to be offended by people making fun of his sexuality regardless if they are correct that he is gay or incorrect that he's not.

Daheck? Since when was there somethin' called "tha right to be offended"?

 ???

Well, if people say you shouldn't be offended, as has been in this thread, then clearly there are times you should be offended, which is another way to say "have a right to be offended."  I've heard the phrase a lot.  I guess you haven't.  If you google the phrase, you'll come up with 2.9 million hits, so I'd say that it's existed for awhile.

Re: Roy Hibbert apologizes for post-game gay slur
« Reply #108 on: June 02, 2013, 10:55:34 PM »

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I have a hypothetical for everyone

-We've probably all seen funny pictures about Bosh (ie Heat locker room celebration pic with champagne)or heard jokes about Bosh being gay.

What if he said he was offended by the jokes and being called gay. Does he have a right to be offended or is that offensive to gays? Just a thought provoker.

I haven't seen/heard those jokes.  But he's allowed to be offended by people making fun of his sexuality regardless if they are correct that he is gay or incorrect that he's not.

Just google him and you'll see so many gifs and memes making fun of him. It's a running joke, even with some comedians.

Re: Roy Hibbert apologizes for post-game gay slur
« Reply #109 on: June 02, 2013, 10:57:32 PM »

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I have a hypothetical for everyone

-We've probably all seen funny pictures about Bosh (ie Heat locker room celebration pic with champagne)or heard jokes about Bosh being gay.

What if he said he was offended by the jokes and being called gay. Does he have a right to be offended or is that offensive to gays? Just a thought provoker.

I haven't seen/heard those jokes.  But he's allowed to be offended by people making fun of his sexuality regardless if they are correct that he is gay or incorrect that he's not.

Daheck? Since when was there somethin' called "tha right to be offended"?

 ???

Same thing like saying "you have no right to be upset or [insert emotion]"

I'm quite sure you've heard the phrase before. 

Re: Roy Hibbert apologizes for post-game gay slur
« Reply #110 on: June 03, 2013, 12:50:04 AM »

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I can't believe this is still being talked about.
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Re: Roy Hibbert apologizes for post-game gay slur
« Reply #111 on: June 03, 2013, 01:07:46 AM »

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Re: Roy Hibbert apologizes for post-game gay slur
« Reply #112 on: June 03, 2013, 01:45:51 AM »

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I was trying to figure out what Homophobic slur he said for a couple of minutes after I read the "controversial statement". I think 75K is a bit excessive, but we've already seen how people have taken this thing and ran with it. IMO, Hibbert did nothing wrong it's all about being politically correct.

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« Reply #113 on: June 03, 2013, 02:29:07 AM »

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     Here's something from the Ball Don't Lie article on the Hibbert fine.  i think it's very well put.  It's really all i can add right now, since saltlover has echoed many of my thoughts quite eloquently.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJnlPP7jm5s

Re: Roy Hibbert apologizes for post-game gay slur
« Reply #114 on: June 03, 2013, 04:02:11 AM »

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     Here's something from the Ball Don't Lie article on the Hibbert fine.  i think it's very well put.  It's really all i can add right now, since saltlover has echoed many of my thoughts quite eloquently.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJnlPP7jm5s

Hilarious. I forgot about this video. It's old but I'll give you a TP anyway for tha laugh. Everything that was said in tha video was true. From 0:35-0:54, they just repeated what I said maybe 6 pages ago. Hibbert saying "no homo" doesn't necessarily mean he has a fear of looking or being gay, it was just a bad joke in tha wrong setting. Hip-Hop definitely has an effect on society but in this particular situation - this is rap. Yes, Rap and Hip Hop are two different things and "no homo" definitely ain't Hip Hop.

I purposely avoided this because I didn't wanna make it an excuse for Hibbert but that's just what it is. I myself have never hopped on tha "no homo" wagon because I never felt I needed to. I've said things that other people suggested I say no homo to but that would be subjecting myself to someone else's mindset. As Jadakiss once said - "A real man shouldn't have to say no homo." And while I still think saltlover looked way deeper into this than he should have, I respect his stance on this. But I still don't feel Hibbert intended on attacking a certain group of people or offending anyone.
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Re: Roy Hibbert apologizes for post-game gay slur
« Reply #115 on: June 03, 2013, 07:34:42 AM »

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Hibbert should know better - the preferred term is "that's what she said".
This is the post that stuck out most with me in the entire thread.  I've heard people say "no homo" lately and it's used just like "that's what she said."  I sometimes use "that's what she said" so much that I end up saying it when it doesn't even fit or when it's a little inappropriate.  I think that's what happened to Hibbert.  It's not even that it didn't fit his comment, it just sucks for him that his words were flowing and he was on camera. 

He didn't insult anyone else and I don't think he meant anything derogatory.  He made a joke about himself getting stretched out which I actually thought was a decent joke.

Re: Roy Hibbert apologizes for post-game gay slur
« Reply #116 on: June 03, 2013, 07:35:19 AM »

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I have a hypothetical for everyone

-We've probably all seen funny pictures about Bosh (ie Heat locker room celebration pic with champagne)or heard jokes about Bosh being gay.

What if he said he was offended by the jokes and being called gay. Does he have a right to be offended or is that offensive to gays? Just a thought provoker.

Since when did offended merit 5 figures?   So much for sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me.

People are too soft and whinny today for my taste.  I don't go around saying stuff like Hibbert did but I think people are over reacting somewhat.   Homo to me is not as bad as Fa@@ot or gay.

When we realize people's sex is not our business then we will have a better world.   It nothing to treat them differently, etc.  I support gay rights 100% but I don't want to see anyone parading around with butt chaps and the like in the street.  Some take it too far, and some take these comments too far.

I think one has to gauge the malice of the intent.   There was little malice here. 

Re: Roy Hibbert apologizes for post-game gay slur
« Reply #117 on: June 03, 2013, 08:27:38 AM »

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I am not a PC person at all.

I think a lot of you though fail to realize that he's speaking as an employee on the podium.  The NBA doesn't want that kind of language, so they fined him.

If he says it on his own time, that's his deal and I would be the first person to argue against a fine.

If I said this at my job, I'd be fired for it almost certainly.



The statement was also offensive.  Maybe not to you (I know I am hardly offended by anything at this point) but it is offensive.  Case closed on that.



Also, it's not the same as "that's what she said".  "That's what she said" is directionless and pointless.  "No homo" is based in avoiding being seen as gay for whatever you said, thus saying there is something wrong with being gay.  Granted, his use was not aimed at anyone, and was used in a way almost as pointless as "that's what she said" but regardless, he used the phrase and he shouldn't on a podium.
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Re: Roy Hibbert apologizes for post-game gay slur
« Reply #118 on: June 03, 2013, 09:11:21 AM »

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Another phrase that's being used just like "no homo" is "Pause"..if they say a statement that sounds gay they'll say "Pause"right after it. The league hasn't caught on and it's been said on air a lot. Jalen Rose has done it on some of his broadcasts.

There's going to always be something..and once the league gets hip to it (if they ever do)it'll be deemed offensive.

http://larrybrownsports.com/ethical-debates/no-homo-why-offensive/190108

Re: Roy Hibbert apologizes for post-game gay slur
« Reply #119 on: June 03, 2013, 09:39:49 AM »

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Always thought that was such a stupid phrase.

Its like something you'd say in 7th grade then a couple years later realize how idiotic it was