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Re: Rumor: The Big Ticket is coming back for one more year!
« Reply #30 on: May 30, 2013, 11:23:52 PM »

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I thought I read Pierces home is for sale......that wouldn't indicate he is returning

I think Pierce gets traded with Bradley , Bass and or  Lee for a impact player

rather have Milsap on Celtics
You would rather have Milsap than Pierce?
You would rather have an undersized PF that is good but no amazing in his game and can't do anything else than an SF that can run the point, play the SG as a very very good shooter, trouble opposing SF's with his moves, guard PF's decently and rebound better than many centers in this league?

Wow. Just wow

sure I would , pierce is washed up , too old and broken , time for him to hit the road ;D

The real question is, 'would you rather have 4 years of Millsap at 10 million (or less) a year or 1 year of Pierce?'
Pierce, but then again, the people on this forum amaze me.

What continues to amaze me is how adamantly pro-Paul Pierce you are after how badly he looked in the playoffs.
So the guy that puts together an excellent regular season given his age and the duties expected of him and then he does poorly in the playoffs. So now he is automatically awful, worthless and many other awful things?

Where we're you all during the regular season? Oh wait, you all were cheering for him and busy telling everyone how much you loved him. All of a sudden you all hate him now.

How do you know he didn't have some unreported injury?

LOL CelticsBlog

Re: Rumor: The Big Ticket is coming back for one more year!
« Reply #31 on: May 30, 2013, 11:25:54 PM »

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Nice news if true.

Re: Rumor: The Big Ticket is coming back for one more year!
« Reply #32 on: May 30, 2013, 11:27:06 PM »

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Meh...

Barring significant additions this just means another season of not being quite good enough.

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« Reply #33 on: May 30, 2013, 11:30:58 PM »

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Not understanding the " if KG is back and Millsap or some other free agent is brought in on a sign and trade then Pierce must be going". Seems more likely that Bass would be guaranteed to be gone along with one of the SGs we have. KG back, to me almost guarantees Pierce is back.

 Also, if anyone is headed out of town in a sign and trade that is a SF for Boston, its Green that is gone, not Pierce. I think people on this site severely over value what Green is and what he means to this team's long term future plans.

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« Reply #34 on: May 30, 2013, 11:49:31 PM »

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Jeff Green is definitely overvalued on this board. I think fans have fallen in love with what Green could be instead of looking at what he actually is. There shouldn't be any urgency to trade him, but I think Pierce is still the better player right now. IMO, If you have to choose between Pierce and Green in a win now situation picking Pierce is still a no brainer.

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« Reply #35 on: May 31, 2013, 12:36:26 AM »

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Jeff Green is definitely overvalued on this board. I think fans have fallen in love with what Green could be instead of looking at what he actually is. There shouldn't be any urgency to trade him, but I think Pierce is still the better player right now. IMO, If you have to choose between Pierce and Green in a win now situation picking Pierce is still a no brainer.

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Re: Rumor: The Big Ticket is coming back for one more year!
« Reply #36 on: May 31, 2013, 12:49:04 AM »

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Jeff Green is definitely overvalued on this board. I think fans have fallen in love with what Green could be instead of looking at what he actually is. There shouldn't be any urgency to trade him, but I think Pierce is still the better player right now. IMO, If you have to choose between Pierce and Green in a win now situation picking Pierce is still a no brainer.

YES YES YES and YES

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« Reply #37 on: May 31, 2013, 12:54:03 AM »

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Jeff Green is definitely overvalued on this board. I think fans have fallen in love with what Green could be instead of looking at what he actually is. There shouldn't be any urgency to trade him, but I think Pierce is still the better player right now. IMO, If you have to choose between Pierce and Green in a win now situation picking Pierce is still a no brainer.

I dont think Green is being overvalued. After the all-star break last year this guy averaged around 20 and 6 once his role in the offense was more defined. In the playoffs, when it mattered the most, he averaged about 23 and 7. He is only a year removed from heart surgery and finally gained confidence in what his body can do. He's shown a knack of getting to the hoop and finishing with contact. He shot well from around the key and pretty decent from three.

The only thing I think is his weakness right now is that he just cant go left. Once he develops that part of his game he'll be a monster in this league and one of the closest things that we'll find to a Paul Pierce replacement.


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« Reply #38 on: May 31, 2013, 01:06:32 AM »

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Jeff Green is definitely overvalued on this board. I think fans have fallen in love with what Green could be instead of looking at what he actually is. There shouldn't be any urgency to trade him, but I think Pierce is still the better player right now. IMO, If you have to choose between Pierce and Green in a win now situation picking Pierce is still a no brainer.

I dont think Green is being overvalued. After the all-star break last year this guy averaged around 20 and 6 once his role in the offense was more defined. In the playoffs, when it mattered the most, he averaged about 23 and 7. He is only a year removed from heart surgery and finally gained confidence in what his body can do. He's shown a knack of getting to the hoop and finishing with contact. He shot well from around the key and pretty decent from three.

The only thing I think is his weakness right now is that he just cant go left. Once he develops that part of his game he'll be a monster in this league and one of the closest things that we'll find to a Paul Pierce replacement.

he avgd 17 and 5 after the all star
20 and 6(5.9) as a starter (and in playoffs)

either way...i don't think hes being overvalued
i think ppl want him to be a bigger part of our offense and his style of play is whats winning in the nba right now

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« Reply #39 on: May 31, 2013, 01:35:55 AM »

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Jeff Green is definitely overvalued on this board. I think fans have fallen in love with what Green could be instead of looking at what he actually is. There shouldn't be any urgency to trade him, but I think Pierce is still the better player right now. IMO, If you have to choose between Pierce and Green in a win now situation picking Pierce is still a no brainer.

I dont think Green is being overvalued. After the all-star break last year this guy averaged around 20 and 6 once his role in the offense was more defined. In the playoffs, when it mattered the most, he averaged about 23 and 7. He is only a year removed from heart surgery and finally gained confidence in what his body can do. He's shown a knack of getting to the hoop and finishing with contact. He shot well from around the key and pretty decent from three.

The only thing I think is his weakness right now is that he just cant go left. Once he develops that part of his game he'll be a monster in this league and one of the closest things that we'll find to a Paul Pierce replacement.

he avgd 17 and 5 after the all star
20 and 6(5.9) as a starter (and in playoffs)

either way...i don't think hes being overvalued
i think ppl want him to be a bigger part of our offense and his style of play is whats winning in the nba right now
People keep looking at 35 games or so of the end of this season and are expecting that of Green or better from thus point forward. Me, I think he regresses back to what he hasalways been, a 3rd option, who will disappear for stretches of games at a ttime, be really good for stretches but overall be a very mediocre player making too much money.

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« Reply #40 on: May 31, 2013, 01:46:15 AM »

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One thing I've always believed to be true:  KG ain't leaving 22 mil on the table regardless of who is on his team.  Pierce or no pierce, he is coming back next year.

As for Pierce versus Milsap.  I'd take Pierce and his one remaining contract year to Milsap and whatever contract he demands. 

Finally, I said a while back that running it back one more year might be the best option.  Not because I think we could contend.  But because we'll still make the playoffs, have some exciting moments, and give pierce a chance to retire a Celtic.  And, because I don't want to take back bad contracts for mediocre players.  Would rather just let guys contracts expire.

And if PP does come back, I think we'd be better with him off the bench.  If he goes for it that is.

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« Reply #41 on: May 31, 2013, 02:01:39 AM »

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Jeff Green is definitely overvalued on this board. I think fans have fallen in love with what Green could be instead of looking at what he actually is. There shouldn't be any urgency to trade him, but I think Pierce is still the better player right now. IMO, If you have to choose between Pierce and Green in a win now situation picking Pierce is still a no brainer.

I dont think Green is being overvalued. After the all-star break last year this guy averaged around 20 and 6 once his role in the offense was more defined. In the playoffs, when it mattered the most, he averaged about 23 and 7. He is only a year removed from heart surgery and finally gained confidence in what his body can do. He's shown a knack of getting to the hoop and finishing with contact. He shot well from around the key and pretty decent from three.

The only thing I think is his weakness right now is that he just cant go left. Once he develops that part of his game he'll be a monster in this league and one of the closest things that we'll find to a Paul Pierce replacement.

he avgd 17 and 5 after the all star
20 and 6(5.9) as a starter (and in playoffs)

either way...i don't think hes being overvalued
i think ppl want him to be a bigger part of our offense and his style of play is whats winning in the nba right now
People keep looking at 35 games or so of the end of this season and are expecting that of Green or better from thus point forward. Me, I think he regresses back to what he hasalways been, a 3rd option, who will disappear for stretches of games at a ttime, be really good for stretches but overall be a very mediocre player making too much money.

i think with the success he had, it's hard not to believe it. even when he was coming off the bench. i mean in january, he started playing very good ball and i think his run at the end of the season shows he has to be a featured part of the offense whether he's a #2 or #3 option...that's how I feel. i think thte eastern conf is weaker and he has the opportunity to take advantage in the 3 and 4 spot over here. an offense built around paul pierce, the guy who shares his natural position, is a stunt to jeffs growth.

and i think it's really unfair for ppl to say he disappears for stretches, because everyone has bad games and again, i believe he's grossly underutilized. even after allstar break...17pts and 5rebounds isn't awful for a guy making 9mil a year esp when more than half those games were off the bench? i don't get that. i think at worst, he avgs 17/5 next season.

and if he's traded and esp lands somewhere in the east and averages 20/6 or more on the year, I'm going to sit back and laugh as the forum explodes and wonders why he couldnt do it here.

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« Reply #42 on: May 31, 2013, 02:06:15 AM »

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and to add on to the thought that people are overvaluing jeff's potential:

i mean, aren't we ALL judging potential right now?
the potential impact millsap or big al will have here?
the potential game left in KG and PP -- even though they had horrible ends of the season?
the potential impact of Rondo, whether healthy or not?
I feel like thats kind of the name of the game...we're all guessing here...and if my guess is that Jeff Green can be a big player next season, I feel like I have that right.

I'm more than fine with being part of the youth movement that wants to see Rondo, JG, AB and Sully get more responsibility. If KG stays, fine..get him a (young) big man. If Paul stays, bring him off the bench. I've been more than forthright about that.

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« Reply #43 on: May 31, 2013, 02:38:27 AM »

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Why?
In the summer of 2017, I predicted this team would not win a championship for the next 10 years.

3 down, 7 to go.

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« Reply #44 on: May 31, 2013, 02:46:48 AM »

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Jeff Green is definitely overvalued on this board. I think fans have fallen in love with what Green could be instead of looking at what he actually is. There shouldn't be any urgency to trade him, but I think Pierce is still the better player right now. IMO, If you have to choose between Pierce and Green in a win now situation picking Pierce is still a no brainer.

I dont think Green is being overvalued. After the all-star break last year this guy averaged around 20 and 6 once his role in the offense was more defined. In the playoffs, when it mattered the most, he averaged about 23 and 7. He is only a year removed from heart surgery and finally gained confidence in what his body can do. He's shown a knack of getting to the hoop and finishing with contact. He shot well from around the key and pretty decent from three.

The only thing I think is his weakness right now is that he just cant go left. Once he develops that part of his game he'll be a monster in this league and one of the closest things that we'll find to a Paul Pierce replacement.

he avgd 17 and 5 after the all star
20 and 6(5.9) as a starter (and in playoffs)

either way...i don't think hes being overvalued
i think ppl want him to be a bigger part of our offense and his style of play is whats winning in the nba right now
People keep looking at 35 games or so of the end of this season and are expecting that of Green or better from thus point forward. Me, I think he regresses back to what he hasalways been, a 3rd option, who will disappear for stretches of games at a ttime, be really good for stretches but overall be a very mediocre player making too much money.

And I think people who undervalue Green's potential look at the first part of the season and forget that he didnt really have a consistent role, he wasnt getting consistent minutes and had just come off of having life-threatening surgery on his heart. Towards the end of the year he was much more consistent than inconsistent. Did he dissapear for some parts of games? Sure. But doesnt Rondo? Every young player still learning the game does.

He has never been given the opportunity to be the go to guy untill late in this past season with the Celtics and I think he pretty much showed what he is capable of.