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Re: Jackie Mac: Millsap plan A for C's?
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2013, 08:06:52 PM »

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So, how would we get him here?  I'm not seeing a realistic sign-and-trade.
Only option I see is Jeff Green. If Utah want him.

I would be all for that.

Re: Jackie Mac: Millsap plan A for C's?
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2013, 08:07:50 PM »

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Re: Jackie Mac: Millsap plan A for C's?
« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2013, 08:08:08 PM »

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So, how would we get him here?  I'm not seeing a realistic sign-and-trade.
Only option I see is Jeff Green. If Utah want him.

I would be all for that.

Bass and Bradley might work ? maybe we get a 2nd rd pick back?

Re: Jackie Mac: Millsap plan A for C's?
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2013, 08:10:34 PM »

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So, how would we get him here?  I'm not seeing a realistic sign-and-trade.
Only option I see is Jeff Green. If Utah want him.

I would be all for that.

Bass and Bradley might work ? maybe we get a 2nd rd pick back?

I don't see Utah having any interest in Bass or having anywhere near enough interest in Avery Bradley to part with Paul Millsap.

I think Bass will be viewed as dead weight. They have three vastly superior big men who will eat up almost all of the available minutes. No need to pay your fourth big $7 million a year.

Re: Jackie Mac: Millsap plan A for C's?
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2013, 08:11:45 PM »

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So, how would we get him here?  I'm not seeing a realistic sign-and-trade.
Only option I see is Jeff Green. If Utah want him.

I would be all for that.

Bass and Bradley might work ? maybe we get a 2nd rd pick back?

I don't see Utah having any interest in Bass or having anywhere near enough interest in Avery Bradley to part with Paul Millsap.

I think Bass will be viewed as dead weight. They have three vastly superior big men who will eat up almost all of the available minutes. No need to pay your fourth big $7 million a year.
then how about Lee and Mel9?

Re: Jackie Mac: Millsap plan A for C's?
« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2013, 08:12:39 PM »

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Really? Undersized power forward?

Millsap is a great player who could definitely help in those odd games when he absolutely goes off - but he doesn't do it often enough. All this would do is stem Sullinger's development now and create a logjam at power forward in the future.

Re: Jackie Mac: Millsap plan A for C's?
« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2013, 08:13:44 PM »

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Re: Jackie Mac: Millsap plan A for C's?
« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2013, 08:14:21 PM »

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True or false: Paul Millsap is Sullinger's ceiling.

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Re: Jackie Mac: Millsap plan A for C's?
« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2013, 08:16:15 PM »

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So, how would we get him here?  I'm not seeing a realistic sign-and-trade.
Only option I see is Jeff Green. If Utah want him.

I would be all for that.

Bass and Bradley might work ? maybe we get a 2nd rd pick back?

I don't see Utah having any interest in Bass or having anywhere near enough interest in Avery Bradley to part with Paul Millsap.

I think Bass will be viewed as dead weight. They have three vastly superior big men who will eat up almost all of the available minutes. No need to pay your fourth big $7 million a year.
then how about Lee and Mel9?
No -- a bench guard / borderline starter on a multi-year contract and a third string project center for a top ten power forward?

Utah have cap space on the horizon. Only about $30 million on the books heading into next season. I expect they'd rather let Millsap walk away for free than take back Courtney Lee's contract. Spend their cash on a high quality free agent or two (or one FA and keep Big Al).

Re: Jackie Mac: Millsap plan A for C's?
« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2013, 08:19:23 PM »

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So, how would we get him here?  I'm not seeing a realistic sign-and-trade.
Only option I see is Jeff Green. If Utah want him.

I would be all for that.

Bass and Bradley might work ? maybe we get a 2nd rd pick back?

I don't see Utah having any interest in Bass or having anywhere near enough interest in Avery Bradley to part with Paul Millsap.

I think Bass will be viewed as dead weight. They have three vastly superior big men who will eat up almost all of the available minutes. No need to pay your fourth big $7 million a year.
then how about Lee and Mel9?
No -- a bench guard / borderline starter on a multi-year contract and a third string project center for a top ten power forward?

Utah have cap space on the horizon. Only about $30 million on the books heading into next season. I expect they'd rather let Millsap walk away for free than take back Courtney Lee's contract. Spend their cash on a high quality free agent or two (or one FA and keep Big Al).

But then wouldn't it be more of Al Jeff's decision than Utah's decision? Kind of like the CLee deal?

Re: Jackie Mac: Millsap plan A for C's?
« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2013, 08:21:12 PM »

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So, how would we get him here?  I'm not seeing a realistic sign-and-trade.
Only option I see is Jeff Green. If Utah want him.

I would be all for that.

Bass and Bradley might work ? maybe we get a 2nd rd pick back?

I don't see Utah having any interest in Bass or having anywhere near enough interest in Avery Bradley to part with Paul Millsap.

I think Bass will be viewed as dead weight. They have three vastly superior big men who will eat up almost all of the available minutes. No need to pay your fourth big $7 million a year.
then how about Lee and Mel9?
No -- a bench guard / borderline starter on a multi-year contract and a third string project center for a top ten power forward?

Utah have cap space on the horizon. Only about $30 million on the books heading into next season. I expect they'd rather let Millsap walk away for free than take back Courtney Lee's contract. Spend their cash on a high quality free agent or two (or one FA and keep Big Al).

top 10 pf?

1)Aldridge
2)Love
3)Gasol
4)Randolph
5)Josh Smith
6)David West
7)Lebron or Bosh
8)Dirk
9)Blake Griffin
10)Ibaka
11)David Lee
12)Favors
13)Boozer
14)Faried
15)Anthony Davis
16)Drummond or Monroe

just off the top of my head.....

Re: Jackie Mac: Millsap plan A for C's?
« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2013, 08:24:08 PM »

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So, how would we get him here?  I'm not seeing a realistic sign-and-trade.
Only option I see is Jeff Green. If Utah want him.

I would be all for that.

Bass and Bradley might work ? maybe we get a 2nd rd pick back?

I don't see Utah having any interest in Bass or having anywhere near enough interest in Avery Bradley to part with Paul Millsap.

I think Bass will be viewed as dead weight. They have three vastly superior big men who will eat up almost all of the available minutes. No need to pay your fourth big $7 million a year.
then how about Lee and Mel9?
No -- a bench guard / borderline starter on a multi-year contract and a third string project center for a top ten power forward?

Utah have cap space on the horizon. Only about $30 million on the books heading into next season. I expect they'd rather let Millsap walk away for free than take back Courtney Lee's contract. Spend their cash on a high quality free agent or two (or one FA and keep Big Al).

But then wouldn't it be more of Al Jeff's decision than Utah's decision? Kind of like the CLee deal?

Houston didn't take on any real payroll in that deal, did they? They were non-guaranteed contracts for the most part. They picked up a 2nd round pick for helping Boston out at little cost to themselves.

The difference here is you are asking Utah to eat a contract they don't need and at a time when they have the option of using that cap space to bring in a star player (or two). Cost with not enough rewards.

Re: Jackie Mac: Millsap plan A for C's?
« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2013, 08:26:35 PM »

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So, how would we get him here?  I'm not seeing a realistic sign-and-trade.
Only option I see is Jeff Green. If Utah want him.

I would be all for that.

Bass and Bradley might work ? maybe we get a 2nd rd pick back?

I don't see Utah having any interest in Bass or having anywhere near enough interest in Avery Bradley to part with Paul Millsap.

I think Bass will be viewed as dead weight. They have three vastly superior big men who will eat up almost all of the available minutes. No need to pay your fourth big $7 million a year.
then how about Lee and Mel9?
No -- a bench guard / borderline starter on a multi-year contract and a third string project center for a top ten power forward?

Utah have cap space on the horizon. Only about $30 million on the books heading into next season. I expect they'd rather let Millsap walk away for free than take back Courtney Lee's contract. Spend their cash on a high quality free agent or two (or one FA and keep Big Al).

But then wouldn't it be more of Al Jeff's decision than Utah's decision? Kind of like the CLee deal?

Houston didn't take on any real payroll in that deal, did they? They were non-guaranteed contracts for the most part. They picked up a 2nd round pick for helping Boston out at little cost to themselves.

The difference here is you are asking Utah to eat a contract they don't need and at a time when they have the option of using that cap space to bring in a star player (or two). Cost with not enough rewards.

In that case Al could just leave via the FA?

Re: Jackie Mac: Millsap plan A for C's?
« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2013, 08:30:43 PM »

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So, how would we get him here?  I'm not seeing a realistic sign-and-trade.
Only option I see is Jeff Green. If Utah want him.

I would be all for that.

Bass and Bradley might work ? maybe we get a 2nd rd pick back?

I don't see Utah having any interest in Bass or having anywhere near enough interest in Avery Bradley to part with Paul Millsap.

I think Bass will be viewed as dead weight. They have three vastly superior big men who will eat up almost all of the available minutes. No need to pay your fourth big $7 million a year.
then how about Lee and Mel9?
No -- a bench guard / borderline starter on a multi-year contract and a third string project center for a top ten power forward?

Utah have cap space on the horizon. Only about $30 million on the books heading into next season. I expect they'd rather let Millsap walk away for free than take back Courtney Lee's contract. Spend their cash on a high quality free agent or two (or one FA and keep Big Al).

top 10 pf?

1)Aldridge
2)Love
3)Gasol
4)Randolph
5)Josh Smith
6)David West
7)Lebron or Bosh
8)Dirk
9)Blake Griffin
10)Ibaka
11)David Lee
12)Favors
13)Boozer
14)Faried
15)Anthony Davis
16)Drummond or Monroe

just off the top of my head.....

I would scratch those names.

I would list LeBron at SF.

And I would list Pau Gasol, LaMarcus Aldridge and Chris Bosh at the center position. If including them as a PFs, I would take Millsap over Bosh but I would take Aldridge and Pau Gasol ahead of Millsap.

I have David Lee below Millsap because he is a lousy defender whereas Millsap is one of the stronger team defenders amongst starting PFs in the league. Offensively, I think they are quite similar. Lee slight edge on the boards.

Not much of a Faried fan. Too limited offensively and not enough impact defensively to make up for it. I think Boozer has dropped off considerably and would rate him well below Millsap. Anthony Davis isn't there yet. Neither is Greg Monroe (at the PF position). Ditto for Favors.

Those would be my PF rankings.

Re: Jackie Mac: Millsap plan A for C's?
« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2013, 08:31:26 PM »

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So, how would we get him here?  I'm not seeing a realistic sign-and-trade.
Only option I see is Jeff Green. If Utah want him.

I would be all for that.

Bass and Bradley might work ? maybe we get a 2nd rd pick back?

I don't see Utah having any interest in Bass or having anywhere near enough interest in Avery Bradley to part with Paul Millsap.

I think Bass will be viewed as dead weight. They have three vastly superior big men who will eat up almost all of the available minutes. No need to pay your fourth big $7 million a year.
then how about Lee and Mel9?
No -- a bench guard / borderline starter on a multi-year contract and a third string project center for a top ten power forward?

Utah have cap space on the horizon. Only about $30 million on the books heading into next season. I expect they'd rather let Millsap walk away for free than take back Courtney Lee's contract. Spend their cash on a high quality free agent or two (or one FA and keep Big Al).

But then wouldn't it be more of Al Jeff's decision than Utah's decision? Kind of like the CLee deal?

Houston didn't take on any real payroll in that deal, did they? They were non-guaranteed contracts for the most part. They picked up a 2nd round pick for helping Boston out at little cost to themselves.

The difference here is you are asking Utah to eat a contract they don't need and at a time when they have the option of using that cap space to bring in a star player (or two). Cost with not enough rewards.

In that case Al could just leave via the FA?

Sure. To someone who has the cap space to pay him. Boston doesn't.