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Cavs willing to trade 1st pick
« on: May 22, 2013, 09:48:39 AM »

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Interesting that they are even considering it.  I would think Noel is perfect for them, especially since he won't play till December.  Almost assures them of a high lottery pick in 2014.  Though it makes you wonder what they could get for Noel and would they actually want it.
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Re: Cavs willing to trade 1st pick
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2013, 09:51:45 AM »

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I'm not sold on them wanting to trade the pick. Of course every team with a #1 pick should do their duty and see what teams are willing to offer for it, but I doubt they are really interested in trading it.

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« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2013, 09:54:41 AM »

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Or it says their scouts really do not like this rookie class.




Re: Cavs willing to trade 1st pick
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2013, 09:59:47 AM »

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I think the Cavs are getting a bit impatient with their rebuilding process. The lack of progress being made. And now Kyrie Irving making some noises about being unhappy at the team's lack of winning. His contract is up in two years. Need to show they can compete for a title.

I think they are looking for an already established young-ish star to pair with Kyrie Irving. To make Kyrie happy and to get Cleveland back into the playoffs. I think they would rather that than another 25 win season and high draft pick.

Re: Cavs willing to trade 1st pick
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2013, 10:00:06 AM »

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 Can't you make an argument that Tristan is similiar to Noel?

I don't think they'll trade it but some team may really love Noel or Mac
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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2013, 10:06:17 AM »

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I think the Cavs are getting a bit impatient with their rebuilding process. The lack of progress being made. And now Kyrie Irving making some noises about being unhappy at the team's lack of winning. His contract is up in two years. Need to show they can compete for a title.

I think they are looking for an already established young-ish star to pair with Kyrie Irving. To make Kyrie happy and to get Cleveland back into the playoffs. I think they would rather that than another 25 win season and high draft pick.

What if DET came knocking with a package built around Monroe? Well he may never be a superstar he is still a very skilled player and only 22 years old. Detroit really needs scoring and if they could grab Mac with the 1st and Burke with their original pick they may have their backcourt of the future. Burke/Mac/Drummond is not a bad core for a rebuild

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Re: Cavs willing to trade 1st pick
« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2013, 10:09:48 AM »

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Any team will always explore their options. This seems like the Cavs are just analyzing what options could be open on the market, if they were to trade away their 1st pick. The only issue is that this years rookie class isn't anything too spectacular, and I see about 1-3 allstars, with a couple fringe all-stars.

At the most I'll see really good role players, but as the person above me stated. Kyrie has always grown impatient of not winning, and wants to contend.

Who knows how much he'll want to stay if he decides that other places are giving him better pieces to work with.

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Re: Cavs willing to trade 1st pick
« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2013, 10:10:11 AM »

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I think the Cavs are getting a bit impatient with their rebuilding process. The lack of progress being made. And now Kyrie Irving making some noises about being unhappy at the team's lack of winning. His contract is up in two years. Need to show they can compete for a title.

I think they are looking for an already established young-ish star to pair with Kyrie Irving. To make Kyrie happy and to get Cleveland back into the playoffs. I think they would rather that than another 25 win season and high draft pick.

What if DET came knocking with a package built around Monroe? Well he may never be a superstar he is still a very skilled player and only 22 years old. Detroit really needs scoring and if they could grab Mac with the 1st and Burke with their original pick they may have their backcourt of the future. Burke/Mac/Drummond is not a bad core for a rebuild

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Yeah, I think that is a very good offer. I could see Cleveland taking that.

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« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2013, 10:11:45 AM »

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I think the Cavs are getting a bit impatient with their rebuilding process. The lack of progress being made. And now Kyrie Irving making some noises about being unhappy at the team's lack of winning. His contract is up in two years. Need to show they can compete for a title.

I think they are looking for an already established young-ish star to pair with Kyrie Irving. To make Kyrie happy and to get Cleveland back into the playoffs. I think they would rather that than another 25 win season and high draft pick.

What if DET came knocking with a package built around Monroe? Well he may never be a superstar he is still a very skilled player and only 22 years old. Detroit really needs scoring and if they could grab Mac with the 1st and Burke with their original pick they may have their backcourt of the future. Burke/Mac/Drummond is not a bad core for a rebuild

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Why would Detroit give away a 22 year old C averaging 16 and 10?




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« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2013, 10:12:44 AM »

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I think the Cavs are getting a bit impatient with their rebuilding process. The lack of progress being made. And now Kyrie Irving making some noises about being unhappy at the team's lack of winning. His contract is up in two years. Need to show they can compete for a title.

I think they are looking for an already established young-ish star to pair with Kyrie Irving. To make Kyrie happy and to get Cleveland back into the playoffs. I think they would rather that than another 25 win season and high draft pick.

I think this makes sense too.

I'd much rather a known effective player rather than a player who could potentially bust.  Drafting a Olowakandi, kwame brown, tyson chandler, emeka okafor, or bargnangi could really hurt kyrie's chances of staying in cleveland.

As BleedGreen said, I think Greg Monroe is right around the threshold of the type of player they are considering moving the pick for.  Anyone better than him I think would make sense to trade the pick for.

Whereas if the Cavs did not already have a great player in place, they would just keep the pick regardless with high hopes that the sky is the limit for this draft pick.
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Re: Cavs willing to trade 1st pick
« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2013, 10:16:28 AM »

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I think this is just a GM stating his options to the media. Of course they will consider it. Noel would look great alongside Irving... But with injury history to Irving and Varejo would they be hesitant to pick up Noels after ACL surgery and looking for more of a sure thing?

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« Reply #11 on: May 22, 2013, 10:20:12 AM »

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I think the Cavs are getting a bit impatient with their rebuilding process. The lack of progress being made. And now Kyrie Irving making some noises about being unhappy at the team's lack of winning. His contract is up in two years. Need to show they can compete for a title.

I think they are looking for an already established young-ish star to pair with Kyrie Irving. To make Kyrie happy and to get Cleveland back into the playoffs. I think they would rather that than another 25 win season and high draft pick.

What if DET came knocking with a package built around Monroe? Well he may never be a superstar he is still a very skilled player and only 22 years old. Detroit really needs scoring and if they could grab Mac with the 1st and Burke with their original pick they may have their backcourt of the future. Burke/Mac/Drummond is not a bad core for a rebuild

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Why would Detroit give away a 22 year old C averaging 16 and 10?





I would think the Cavs would be the reluctant ones here. Greg Monroe hardly made the leap last year that others thought he may [and looking at his stats, he basically repeated his 2011-12 season]. He is a decent scorer and the 10 rebounds are nice, but he isn't a shotblocker or a surefire allstar in this league.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to have Monroe and I think the Cavs would strongly consider this deal, but there is a lot of cache associated with a number one pick, whether or not is a weak draft.

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« Reply #12 on: May 22, 2013, 10:22:29 AM »

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I think the Cavs are getting a bit impatient with their rebuilding process. The lack of progress being made. And now Kyrie Irving making some noises about being unhappy at the team's lack of winning. His contract is up in two years. Need to show they can compete for a title.

I think they are looking for an already established young-ish star to pair with Kyrie Irving. To make Kyrie happy and to get Cleveland back into the playoffs. I think they would rather that than another 25 win season and high draft pick.

What if DET came knocking with a package built around Monroe? Well he may never be a superstar he is still a very skilled player and only 22 years old. Detroit really needs scoring and if they could grab Mac with the 1st and Burke with their original pick they may have their backcourt of the future. Burke/Mac/Drummond is not a bad core for a rebuild

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Why would Detroit give away a 22 year old C averaging 16 and 10?





The Cavs would be the reluctant ones here, I would think. Greg Monroe hardly made the leap last year that others thought he may [and looking at his stats, he basically repeated his 2011-12 season]. He is a decent scorer, but not a sure thing. The 10 rebounds are nice, but he isn't a shotblocker.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to have Monroe and I think the Cavs would strongly consider this deal, but there is a lot of cache associated with a number one pick, whether or not is a weak draft.


No way Detroit trades their 22 year old C for the top pick in a weak draft.  They have their starting big men of the future set.  Why would they break that part of the team up? 

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« Reply #13 on: May 22, 2013, 10:28:23 AM »

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I think the Cavs are getting a bit impatient with their rebuilding process. The lack of progress being made. And now Kyrie Irving making some noises about being unhappy at the team's lack of winning. His contract is up in two years. Need to show they can compete for a title.

I think they are looking for an already established young-ish star to pair with Kyrie Irving. To make Kyrie happy and to get Cleveland back into the playoffs. I think they would rather that than another 25 win season and high draft pick.

What if DET came knocking with a package built around Monroe? Well he may never be a superstar he is still a very skilled player and only 22 years old. Detroit really needs scoring and if they could grab Mac with the 1st and Burke with their original pick they may have their backcourt of the future. Burke/Mac/Drummond is not a bad core for a rebuild

Irving (21)
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Thompsan (22
Monroe (22)


Why would Detroit give away a 22 year old C averaging 16 and 10?





The Cavs would be the reluctant ones here, I would think. Greg Monroe hardly made the leap last year that others thought he may [and looking at his stats, he basically repeated his 2011-12 season]. He is a decent scorer, but not a sure thing. The 10 rebounds are nice, but he isn't a shotblocker.

Don't get me wrong, I would love to have Monroe and I think the Cavs would strongly consider this deal, but there is a lot of cache associated with a number one pick, whether or not is a weak draft.


No way Detroit trades their 22 year old C for the top pick in a weak draft.  They have their starting big men of the future set.  Why would they break that part of the team up?
I'm with you.  Just doesn't make sense for Detroit unless they are getting more value in return.  Nerlens Noel (or anyone else in this draft) is not going to draw anywhere near the value of Greg Monroe.  Just isn't going to happen.
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Re: Cavs willing to trade 1st pick
« Reply #14 on: May 22, 2013, 10:28:31 AM »

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Think Jeff Green could get us the first?